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| Mats Winther... |
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"The Blood Sacrifice"
remarks on the symbolism and psychology
Abstract: Victimization as a form of sacrificial ritual is discussed.
It is understood as an inferior and archaic method of ego
emancipation. By the destructive deed original wholeness is disrupted
and transfer of sin and guilt occurs. The blood sacrifice originates
as a defense against the fear of an overwhelming unconscious. Power
over life and death is imparted to the institution of consciousness.
By that means an identification with collective consciousness is
promoted and a weak consciousness strengthened. The regressive bond to
the unconscious is temporarily severed, but the sacrifice must be
renewed. It is the real impetus behind Freud's death drive and also
the destructive narcissistic relationship.
Keywords: rite of passage, self-mutilation, primal transgression, ego
wholeness, flagellants, amputation disorder, sin transference, St
Paul, Tezcatlipoca.
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Read the full article here:
http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/bloodsac.htm
Regards,
Mats Winther |
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| Day Brown... |
| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:02 pm |
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Michael Woods, "In the Footsteps of Alexander" finds himself up in the Himalaya with the Lakash, who claim to be the descendants of wounded soldiers Alexander left behind. This is believed because they say so in ancient Greek.
And with the company of Woods and his camera crew, they sacrifice a goat to Dionysos. Simple:
1 open the pasture gate, grab goat who is there cause he thinks he's gonna get fed, drag him 20 feet to the altar of Dionysos, slit his throat, throw a handful of blood on the altar, then.....
have a barbi cause Dionysos loves a good party. There are sacrifices, and then there are sacrifices. |
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| Jack... |
| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:58 am |
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"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
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Quote: "The Blood Sacrifice"
remarks on the symbolism and psychology
Abstract: Victimization as a form of sacrificial ritual is discussed.
It is understood as an inferior and archaic method of ego
emancipation. By the destructive deed original wholeness is disrupted
and transfer of sin and guilt occurs. The blood sacrifice originates
as a defense against the fear of an overwhelming unconscious. Power
over life and death is imparted to the institution of consciousness.
By that means an identification with collective consciousness is
promoted and a weak consciousness strengthened. The regressive bond to
the unconscious is temporarily severed, but the sacrifice must be
renewed. It is the real impetus behind Freud's death drive and also
the destructive narcissistic relationship.
Keywords: rite of passage, self-mutilation, primal transgression, ego
wholeness, flagellants, amputation disorder, sin transference, St
Paul, Tezcatlipoca.
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Circumcision is one. |
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| Mats Winther... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:31 am |
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Den 2008-06-10 14:58:12 skrev Jack <furgfurgfurg at (no spam) yahoo.com>:
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"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:opucbj410657h2gp at (no spam) sn686101880231...
"The Blood Sacrifice"
remarks on the symbolism and psychology
Abstract: Victimization as a form of sacrificial ritual is discussed.
It is understood as an inferior and archaic method of ego
emancipation. By the destructive deed original wholeness is disrupted
and transfer of sin and guilt occurs. The blood sacrifice originates
as a defense against the fear of an overwhelming unconscious. Power
over life and death is imparted to the institution of consciousness.
By that means an identification with collective consciousness is
promoted and a weak consciousness strengthened. The regressive bond to
the unconscious is temporarily severed, but the sacrifice must be
renewed. It is the real impetus behind Freud's death drive and also
the destructive narcissistic relationship.
Keywords: rite of passage, self-mutilation, primal transgression, ego
wholeness, flagellants, amputation disorder, sin transference, St
Paul, Tezcatlipoca.
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Circumcision is one.
True. It is the symbolical severing a limb.
Mats |
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| Jack... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:11 pm |
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"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
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Quote: Den 2008-06-10 14:58:12 skrev Jack <furgfurgfurg at (no spam) yahoo.com>:
"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:opucbj410657h2gp at (no spam) sn686101880231...
"The Blood Sacrifice"
remarks on the symbolism and psychology
Abstract: Victimization as a form of sacrificial ritual is discussed.
It is understood as an inferior and archaic method of ego
emancipation. By the destructive deed original wholeness is disrupted
and transfer of sin and guilt occurs. The blood sacrifice originates
as a defense against the fear of an overwhelming unconscious. Power
over life and death is imparted to the institution of consciousness.
By that means an identification with collective consciousness is
promoted and a weak consciousness strengthened. The regressive bond to
the unconscious is temporarily severed, but the sacrifice must be
renewed. It is the real impetus behind Freud's death drive and also
the destructive narcissistic relationship.
Keywords: rite of passage, self-mutilation, primal transgression, ego
wholeness, flagellants, amputation disorder, sin transference, St
Paul, Tezcatlipoca.
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Circumcision is one.
True. It is the symbolical severing a limb.
Mats
It's strange that genital cutting shows up independently in cultures across
the globe, across time, for differing reasons. I don't know about the limb
thing--why symbolize that? |
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| Mats Winther... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:12 am |
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Den 2008-06-11 20:11:02 skrev Jack <furgfurgfurg at (no spam) yahoo.com>:
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"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:opucleuk1e57h2gp at (no spam) sn686101880231..
Den 2008-06-10 14:58:12 skrev Jack <furgfurgfurg at (no spam) yahoo.com>:
"Mats Winther" <mlwi at (no spam) swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:opucbj410657h2gp at (no spam) sn686101880231...
"The Blood Sacrifice"
remarks on the symbolism and psychology
Abstract: Victimization as a form of sacrificial ritual is discussed.
It is understood as an inferior and archaic method of ego
emancipation. By the destructive deed original wholeness is disrupted
and transfer of sin and guilt occurs. The blood sacrifice originates
as a defense against the fear of an overwhelming unconscious. Power
over life and death is imparted to the institution of consciousness.
By that means an identification with collective consciousness is
promoted and a weak consciousness strengthened. The regressive bond to
the unconscious is temporarily severed, but the sacrifice must be
renewed. It is the real impetus behind Freud's death drive and also
the destructive narcissistic relationship.
Keywords: rite of passage, self-mutilation, primal transgression, ego
wholeness, flagellants, amputation disorder, sin transference, St
Paul, Tezcatlipoca.
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Circumcision is one.
True. It is the symbolical severing a limb.
Mats
It's strange that genital cutting shows up independently in cultures across
the globe, across time, for differing reasons. I don't know about the limb
thing--why symbolize that?
You sever the original wholeness. You are not whole anymore if
you cut off a limb. In this way you symbolically break free from the
unconscious, the Mother. You ritually leave the Kindergarten, the
original garden of Eden.
Mats |
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| Day Brown... |
| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:15 pm |
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The sources of the myth vary, but in Native European tradition, we see
many clues of a transference of power from women to men, from power in
the hands of healers & magic users to the warrior class.
Campbell, among others, sees the onset of menses as being duplicated
in the male shedding of blood. He also says the ejaculation of a male
god is a version of the Great Earth Mother giving birth. This appears
after the onset of agriculture when the idea of male seed planted in
the vulval slit evolved out of grains planted in the furrow, with the
plow being a metaphor of the penis.
Course, this dont explain how the womb or the fertile ground got to be
there in the first place. This is but one of a myriad of male myths
that were spun out of the original matriarchic cultures whose unraveling
is disturbing the sensibilities of so many men these days.
Even Freud & Jung are being deconstructed. "Jung's Circle of Women,
Revised edition, the Valkyries" by Maggy Antony is on my list of books
to order. I see the rants all over the net by men disturbed by the loss
of power from the discrediting of their moral codes and myth, but women
are not bothering to argue, merely going on about their business, making
more agreeable contacts in email and setting up hidden private lists
that wont be cluttered with the spam and rants.
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