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Roger Coppock...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:45 am
Guest
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!]
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:54 am
Guest
Correction:

On Jun 4, 1:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
[ . . . ]

Quote:
The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:

The correct number of points is 595 not 588.
Tunderbar...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:12 am
Guest
On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv.  This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

   "Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
    and their associated positive radiative forcing,
    far exceed those determined from ice core
    measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIThttp://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially.  To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->  These data may be found at:ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33  8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20  9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14  11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98  11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20  11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53  5 months of data

[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts.  That's entertainment!]

And yet the temps still aren't rising.
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:41 am
Guest
On Jun 4, 2:12 pm, Tunderbar <tdcom... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv.  This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

   "Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
    and their associated positive radiative forcing,
    far exceed those determined from ice core
    measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Quote:
Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially.  To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> >  These data may be found at:

ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt
Quote:

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33  8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20  9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14  11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98  11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20  11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53  5 months of data

[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts.  That's entertainment!]

And yet the temps still aren't rising.

That's not what the data say, Dunderbar. Not at all!

CO2 has a strong correlation with global
mean surface temperatures, R squared = 0.78
with a very high statistical confidence. I've
yet to see the fossil fool fancy that can come
even close to that. (Usually, fossil fools
don't provide enough sources so that one
can test their claims. That's better cover
for false claims.)

Call:
lm(formula = Temp ~ CO2, data = aframe)

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
(Intercept) 1.10008e+01 2.41721e-01 45.5103 < 2.22e-16
CO2 9.24797e-03 7.01018e-04 13.1922 < 2.22e-16

Residual standard error: 0.101321 on 48 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.783817, Adjusted R-squared: 0.779313
F-statistic: 174.034 on 1 and 48 DF, p-value: < 2.220e-16
- - -
The global mean surface "Temp"erature data are the GISS
adjusted J-D yearly land and sea average, available from
NASA at:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:19 pm
Guest
On Jun 4, 1:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High


Total stupidity as usual, from Roger Coppock.

Azolla event:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event
Roger Coppock...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:00 pm
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On Jun 4, 3:19 pm, nicov... at (no spam) hushmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

Total stupidity as usual, from Roger Coppock.

Azolla event:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event

This event occured 49,000,000 years ago.
This post discusses the last 650,000 years.
So, your point is?
Whata Fool...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:53 pm
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Roger Coppock <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

Isn't that great, with any luck and enough rain, harvest should
be really great this year, with the US farmer _FINALLY_ making enough
profit to upgrade equipment and invest in more acreage and possibly
create jobs if there are any people willing to work.
justup
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:28 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 489
Roger Coppock wrote:
Quote:
CO2 has a strong correlation with global
mean surface temperatures

Explain that correlation in the context of the Little Ice Age.

Explain that correlation in the context of the Medieval Warming Period.

Oh, right, those contexts aren't relevant to "global warming"; your
premises can't be challenged. Roger has posted, there is no refutation.
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justup
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:29 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 489
Roger Coppock wrote:
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

Irrelevant. Only data for the last 200 years (according to your
definition of the "global warming" relevance period.

Subject has been adjusted accordingly.
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James...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:36 pm
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote in message
news:419e800a-41a9-4657-8577-dc966b12df21 at (no spam) x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 2:12 pm, Tunderbar <tdcom... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Quote:
Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:

ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt
Quote:

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data

[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!]

And yet the temps still aren't rising.

That's not what the data say, Dunderbar. Not at all!

We're more interested in what they say. Not you.
0ZBN0...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:23 pm
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote in message
news:9c5963b1-6d69-42d2-84d9-fd3a71b42a8e at (no spam) w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High


ROTFLMAO


And the globe continues to cool!!!!!!
PROOF THAT CO2 HAS NOT MUCH EFFECT ON TEMPERATURES.





Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

EPW Blog

June 4, 2008



http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3374



Significantly Colder 16 month temperature drop of -0.774°C!



QUOTE: "The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized
May sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote







Global temperatures continued to slide in May 2008. Meteorologist
Anthony Watts details the cooling temperatures in a report titled
"Global Temperature Dives in May." The new global temperature data
reveals a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius drop in
temperatures since January 2007. Watts reported late yesterday that the
cooling is "equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon 'global
warming signal' of the last 100 years."



"Confirming what many of us have already noted from the anecdotal
evidence coming in of a much cooler than normal May, such as late spring
snows as far south as Arizona, extended skiing in Colorado, and delays
in snow cover melting in many parts of the northern hemisphere, the
University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), published their
satellite-derived Advanced Microwave Sounder Unit data set of the Lower
Troposphere for May 2008," Watts reported on June 3.



"It is significantly colder globally, colder even than the significant
drop to -0.046°C seen in January 2008," Watts explained. The updated
global temperature chart is here)



"But even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in
global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month change
in temperature of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally
agreed upon 'global warming signal' of the last 100 years," he added.



Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer, formerly of NASA and currently principal
research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, commented
on the new data. "If you exclude the anomalous 1992 cooling from the
Pinatubo volcano eruption, it's the coolest May in 20 years," Spencer
said.



Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, formerly of Harvard University, also reacted
to the new temperature data. "The global anomaly was -0.17 °C, the
coldest reading after January 2000 and the third coldest monthly figure
after September 1993. Yes, I mean that anomaly-wise, May was even colder
than all the cool months of 2008, despite the dramatically weakening La
Nina that now seems likely to change to ENSO neutral conditions this
month. For example, the month-on-month cooling from April 2008 was by
0.19 °C while May 2008 was more than 0.75 °C cooler than January 2007.
The average anomaly for the first five months of 2008 is negative. 1994
was the last year whose average annual anomaly was negative," Motl wrote
on June 4. (LINK)



"The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized May
sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote.








Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"If scientists say they are 100% sure, or that they are absolutely
certain about the cause and effect and ignore variables which might show
that they could be wrong, they are practicing junk science. Junk science
happens when scientists believe something based on just some of what
they see."
0ZBN0...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:25 pm
Guest
"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote in message
news:9c5963b1-6d69-42d2-84d9-fd3a71b42a8e at (no spam) w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High


ROTFLMAO


And the globe continues to cool!!!!!!
PROOF THAT CO2 HAS NOT MUCH EFFECT ON TEMPERATURES.





Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

EPW Blog

June 4, 2008



http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3374



Significantly Colder 16 month temperature drop of -0.774°C!



QUOTE: "The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized
May sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote







Global temperatures continued to slide in May 2008. Meteorologist
Anthony Watts details the cooling temperatures in a report titled
"Global Temperature Dives in May." The new global temperature data
reveals a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius drop in
temperatures since January 2007. Watts reported late yesterday that the
cooling is "equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon 'global
warming signal' of the last 100 years."



"Confirming what many of us have already noted from the anecdotal
evidence coming in of a much cooler than normal May, such as late spring
snows as far south as Arizona, extended skiing in Colorado, and delays
in snow cover melting in many parts of the northern hemisphere, the
University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), published their
satellite-derived Advanced Microwave Sounder Unit data set of the Lower
Troposphere for May 2008," Watts reported on June 3.



"It is significantly colder globally, colder even than the significant
drop to -0.046°C seen in January 2008," Watts explained. The updated
global temperature chart is here)



"But even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in
global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month change
in temperature of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally
agreed upon 'global warming signal' of the last 100 years," he added.



Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer, formerly of NASA and currently principal
research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, commented
on the new data. "If you exclude the anomalous 1992 cooling from the
Pinatubo volcano eruption, it's the coolest May in 20 years," Spencer
said.



Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, formerly of Harvard University, also reacted
to the new temperature data. "The global anomaly was -0.17 °C, the
coldest reading after January 2000 and the third coldest monthly figure
after September 1993. Yes, I mean that anomaly-wise, May was even colder
than all the cool months of 2008, despite the dramatically weakening La
Nina that now seems likely to change to ENSO neutral conditions this
month. For example, the month-on-month cooling from April 2008 was by
0.19 °C while May 2008 was more than 0.75 °C cooler than January 2007.
The average anomaly for the first five months of 2008 is negative. 1994
was the last year whose average annual anomaly was negative," Motl wrote
on June 4. (LINK)



"The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized May
sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote.








Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"If scientists say they are 100% sure, or that they are absolutely
certain about the cause and effect and ignore variables which might show
that they could be wrong, they are practicing junk science. Junk science
happens when scientists believe something based on just some of what
they see."
0ZBN0...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:28 pm
Guest
"Tunderbar" <tdcomeau at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9e9dc512-e255-42e7-8cf5-2fc681cf4a56 at (no spam) d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:
Quote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE
FIThttp://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found
at:ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data

[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!]
And yet the temps still aren't rising.

**************



Actually they're STILL FALLING!!!!





Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

EPW Blog

June 4, 2008



http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3374



Significantly Colder 16 month temperature drop of -0.774°C!



QUOTE: "The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized
May sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote







Global temperatures continued to slide in May 2008. Meteorologist
Anthony Watts details the cooling temperatures in a report titled
"Global Temperature Dives in May." The new global temperature data
reveals a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius drop in
temperatures since January 2007. Watts reported late yesterday that the
cooling is "equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon 'global
warming signal' of the last 100 years."



"Confirming what many of us have already noted from the anecdotal
evidence coming in of a much cooler than normal May, such as late spring
snows as far south as Arizona, extended skiing in Colorado, and delays
in snow cover melting in many parts of the northern hemisphere, the
University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), published their
satellite-derived Advanced Microwave Sounder Unit data set of the Lower
Troposphere for May 2008," Watts reported on June 3.



"It is significantly colder globally, colder even than the significant
drop to -0.046°C seen in January 2008," Watts explained. The updated
global temperature chart is here)



"But even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in
global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month change
in temperature of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally
agreed upon 'global warming signal' of the last 100 years," he added.



Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer, formerly of NASA and currently principal
research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, commented
on the new data. "If you exclude the anomalous 1992 cooling from the
Pinatubo volcano eruption, it's the coolest May in 20 years," Spencer
said.



Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, formerly of Harvard University, also reacted
to the new temperature data. "The global anomaly was -0.17 °C, the
coldest reading after January 2000 and the third coldest monthly figure
after September 1993. Yes, I mean that anomaly-wise, May was even colder
than all the cool months of 2008, despite the dramatically weakening La
Nina that now seems likely to change to ENSO neutral conditions this
month. For example, the month-on-month cooling from April 2008 was by
0.19 °C while May 2008 was more than 0.75 °C cooler than January 2007.
The average anomaly for the first five months of 2008 is negative. 1994
was the last year whose average annual anomaly was negative," Motl wrote
on June 4. (LINK)



"The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized May
sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote.








Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"If scientists say they are 100% sure, or that they are absolutely
certain about the cause and effect and ignore variables which might show
that they could be wrong, they are practicing junk science. Junk science
happens when scientists believe something based on just some of what
they see."
0ZBN0...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:32 pm
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 4, 2:12 pm, Tunderbar <tdcom... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp... at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote:

CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Quote:
Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:

ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt
Quote:

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data

[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!]

And yet the temps still aren't rising.
That's not what the data say, Dunderbar. Not at all!

***************************************


SORRY, BUT THE DATA SAY THAT GLOBAL TEMPERATURES ARE STILL FALLING
PRECIPITOUSLY!!!!





Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

EPW Blog

June 4, 2008



http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3374



Significantly Colder 16 month temperature drop of -0.774°C!



QUOTE: "The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized
May sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote







Global temperatures continued to slide in May 2008. Meteorologist
Anthony Watts details the cooling temperatures in a report titled
"Global Temperature Dives in May." The new global temperature data
reveals a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius drop in
temperatures since January 2007. Watts reported late yesterday that the
cooling is "equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon 'global
warming signal' of the last 100 years."



"Confirming what many of us have already noted from the anecdotal
evidence coming in of a much cooler than normal May, such as late spring
snows as far south as Arizona, extended skiing in Colorado, and delays
in snow cover melting in many parts of the northern hemisphere, the
University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), published their
satellite-derived Advanced Microwave Sounder Unit data set of the Lower
Troposphere for May 2008," Watts reported on June 3.



"It is significantly colder globally, colder even than the significant
drop to -0.046°C seen in January 2008," Watts explained. The updated
global temperature chart is here)



"But even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in
global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month change
in temperature of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally
agreed upon 'global warming signal' of the last 100 years," he added.



Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer, formerly of NASA and currently principal
research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, commented
on the new data. "If you exclude the anomalous 1992 cooling from the
Pinatubo volcano eruption, it's the coolest May in 20 years," Spencer
said.



Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, formerly of Harvard University, also reacted
to the new temperature data. "The global anomaly was -0.17 °C, the
coldest reading after January 2000 and the third coldest monthly figure
after September 1993. Yes, I mean that anomaly-wise, May was even colder
than all the cool months of 2008, despite the dramatically weakening La
Nina that now seems likely to change to ENSO neutral conditions this
month. For example, the month-on-month cooling from April 2008 was by
0.19 °C while May 2008 was more than 0.75 °C cooler than January 2007.
The average anomaly for the first five months of 2008 is negative. 1994
was the last year whose average annual anomaly was negative," Motl wrote
on June 4. (LINK)



"The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized May
sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote.








Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"If scientists say they are 100% sure, or that they are absolutely
certain about the cause and effect and ignore variables which might show
that they could be wrong, they are practicing junk science. Junk science
happens when scientists believe something based on just some of what
they see."
0ZBN0...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:33 pm
Guest
"Peter Franks" <none at (no spam) none.com> wrote in message
news:AyF1k.3495$t07.894 at (no spam) newsfe22.lga...
Quote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 has a strong correlation with global
mean surface temperatures

Explain that correlation in the context of the Little Ice Age.

Explain that correlation in the context of the Medieval Warming
Period.

Oh, right, those contexts aren't relevant to "global warming"; your
premises can't be challenged. Roger has posted, there is no
refutation.


Roger is a global cooling denialist!





Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

EPW Blog

June 4, 2008



http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3374



Significantly Colder 16 month temperature drop of -0.774°C!



QUOTE: "The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized
May sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote







Global temperatures continued to slide in May 2008. Meteorologist
Anthony Watts details the cooling temperatures in a report titled
"Global Temperature Dives in May." The new global temperature data
reveals a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius drop in
temperatures since January 2007. Watts reported late yesterday that the
cooling is "equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon 'global
warming signal' of the last 100 years."



"Confirming what many of us have already noted from the anecdotal
evidence coming in of a much cooler than normal May, such as late spring
snows as far south as Arizona, extended skiing in Colorado, and delays
in snow cover melting in many parts of the northern hemisphere, the
University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), published their
satellite-derived Advanced Microwave Sounder Unit data set of the Lower
Troposphere for May 2008," Watts reported on June 3.



"It is significantly colder globally, colder even than the significant
drop to -0.046°C seen in January 2008," Watts explained. The updated
global temperature chart is here)



"But even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in
global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month change
in temperature of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally
agreed upon 'global warming signal' of the last 100 years," he added.



Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer, formerly of NASA and currently principal
research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, commented
on the new data. "If you exclude the anomalous 1992 cooling from the
Pinatubo volcano eruption, it's the coolest May in 20 years," Spencer
said.



Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, formerly of Harvard University, also reacted
to the new temperature data. "The global anomaly was -0.17 °C, the
coldest reading after January 2000 and the third coldest monthly figure
after September 1993. Yes, I mean that anomaly-wise, May was even colder
than all the cool months of 2008, despite the dramatically weakening La
Nina that now seems likely to change to ENSO neutral conditions this
month. For example, the month-on-month cooling from April 2008 was by
0.19 °C while May 2008 was more than 0.75 °C cooler than January 2007.
The average anomaly for the first five months of 2008 is negative. 1994
was the last year whose average annual anomaly was negative," Motl wrote
on June 4. (LINK)



"The Sun has been spotless at least for 9 days. The standardized May
sunspot number was 2.9, equal to April, and the solar flux was even
slightly lower than in April, namely 68.4," Motle wrote.








Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"If scientists say they are 100% sure, or that they are absolutely
certain about the cause and effect and ignore variables which might show
that they could be wrong, they are practicing junk science. Junk science
happens when scientists believe something based on just some of what
they see."
 
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