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| BradGuth... |
 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:55 am |
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DARPA doesn't much like what you have to say. How about those new and
improved levels of escaping methane? How about the extra 50
teratonnes worth of acidic h2o that's now part of our polluted
atmosphere?
What's going to happen when most of our natural gas has been
released?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
Roger Coppock wrote:
Quote: CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High
According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.
Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:
"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."
Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg
Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.
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These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt
The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data
[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!] |
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| Ouroboros_Rex... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:22 pm |
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Peter Franks wrote:
Quote: Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 has a strong correlation with global
mean surface temperatures
Explain that correlation in the context of the Little Ice Age.
Explain that correlation in the context of the Medieval Warming
Period.
Oh, right, those contexts aren't relevant to "global warming"; your
premises can't be challenged. Roger has posted, there is no
refutation.
Poor Petey just can't stand the fact that other folks here are smart
enough to see though his bullshit and he's not smart enough to come up with
smarter bullshit. lol |
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| Ouroboros_Rex... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:23 pm |
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Peter Franks wrote:
Quote: Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High
Irrelevant. Only data for the last 200 years (according to your
definition of the "global warming" relevance period.
A ridiculous lie. |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:21 am |
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"0ZBN0" <0ZBN0 at (no spam) do0od00.com> wrote
Quote: Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May
LLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:21 am |
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Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:22 am |
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Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:23 am |
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Quote: CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High
<nicovar2 at (no spam) hushmail.com> wrote
Quote: Total stupidity as usual, from Roger Coppock.
An odd statement, given that he is just reporting the facts as known to
science.
On what basis do you make them? Faith in your own ignorance? |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:24 am |
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"Whata Fool" <whata at (no spam) fool.ami> wrote
Quote: Isn't that great, with any luck and enough rain, harvest should
be really great this year, with the US farmer _FINALLY_ making enough
profit to upgrade equipment and invest in more acreage and possibly
create jobs if there are any people willing to work.
That is good news for the U.S. farmer. Maybe they will be able to pay for
their fuel and fertilizer this year. |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:25 am |
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"Peter Franks" <none at (no spam) none.com> wrote
Quote: Irrelevant. Only data for the last 200 years (according to your
definition of the "global warming" relevance period.
Oh, the Vostock ice cores go back a lot longer than that.
Shit Sucker. |
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| V for Vendicar... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:26 am |
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Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs |
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:33 pm |
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:35 pm |
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"Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
news:tcg4k.39557$pu3.5266 at (no spam) newsfe05.ams2...
Quote:
"hanson" <hanson at (no spam) quick.net> wrote in message
news:2_d4k.15236$3j2.453 at (no spam) trnddc03...
| "V for Vendicar" <Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_House at (no spam) hotmail.com
| wrote in message news:RY54k.2738$Ec.2676 at (no spam) read2.cgocable.net...
| > Here are the global average temperatures since 1958.
| > "o" = trend line.
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| Big fucking whoop, VD Scotty. They knew that before
| 1958 and their trend line in much more impressive
| then your own phony, silly & wrong graph. Look here:
| http://www.jonco48.com/blog/Global_20Warning_20..._small.jpg
| http://static.flickr.com/48/146953893_89ff2e7ee4.jpg
Androcles wrote:
I have a question.
Are the red pair hanging back to front or are arses getting smaller?
hanson worte:
ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...dunno, but write a nice e-mail
to her and with some smooth green-talk by you she may
offer her arse to you. Let me know whether she turned green
or just grinned... ahahaha... Have fun & thanks for the laughs....
ahahahaha... ahahahasnon
Quote:
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Androcles
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?
1/2[tau(A)+tau(A')]= tau(B)
where
A = (0,0,0,t)
A' =(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v) +x'/(c+v))
B = (x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v))
x' = x-vt
Ref:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
"Easy: he did NOT say that." - cretin harald.vanlintelButNotThis at (no spam) epfl.ch
According to moron van lintel, Einstein did not write the equation he
wrote.
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:36 pm |
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"Benj" <bjacoby at (no spam) iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:efc9e065-e502-4801-b079-b3da96de54a9 at (no spam) w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Scott Nudds aka aka VD Scotty aka "V for Vendicar"
<Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_Ho... at (no spam) hotmail.com>
wrote in message:
news:RY54k.2738$Ec.2676 at (no spam) read2.cgocable.net...
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958.
"o" = trend line.
Quote:
"hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
Big fucking whoop, VD Scotty. They knew that before
1958 and their trend line in much more impressive
then your own phony, silly & wrong graph. Look here:
<http://www.jonco48.com/blog/Global_20Warning_20..._small.jpg>
<http://static.flickr.com/48/146953893_89ff2e7ee4.jpg>
Quote:
....and more fun with VD Scotty, here:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/88910c3cf55da4a>
Quote: ahahaha... ahahahanson
Benj wrote to VD Scotty:
Hey Nudd-case when are you gonna get with the "green" program?
"Global warming" ain't about CO2 levels. That is total bullshit. But
for us oxygen-breathing animals, the destruction of rain forests for
the thinnest of reasons including unbridled greed is THE serious issue
and money-making "carbon credits" isn't any solution. So how long are
"we the people" going to allow the Banksters to keep stealing and
destroying large forests. Maybe once you are all gasping for breath
you'll start raising a little hell with them, Only then it may be too
late. Screw all that AGW crap, man is already doing enough nasty
things to the planet that we don't need Algore to be making up new
fake "threats".
hanson wrote:
.... ahahahaha... Benj, you and me and the rest of the world
can preach our sermons to the little green idiots till their
doom-day, that never comes, and they still won't believe you.
Greenism is like any other religion, all of which are used by
the few to fuck the many... It's very effective and lucrative... for
the few...( which is why all the 3 major monotheistic regions
are at each other throat... constantly).... and on the political
level look at this tread
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/f7e368c25cfd5bad?hl=en>
and see how the little green idiots defend and (still) bark
daily after I posted it.... ahahaha... --- sci.enviro & alt. GW
are much better entertainment then is currently sci.chem &
sci. phys. Over there all fanatical enviros are damaged goods,
officially undiagnosed mental patients since they are PC
at the moment... Enjoy, Benj,.... ahahahaha... ahahanson |
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