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| Claudius Denk... |
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:03 am |
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On May 12, 3:57 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Aquatic Idiot stated:
Quote: None of these feature, my little boy, is seen
in savanna mammals.
Yeah, so?
Savanna Dimwit replied:
Quote: Really? But humans display some measure of your
list and they're savanna mammals.
Some, yes.
Aquatic idiot replied:
Quote: Yes, if some fool says we're savanna mammals, then
we're savanna mammals...
Savanna mammals, my little boy, have a keen sense
of smell, are fast, don't need much water, don't much
iodine, don't need much sodium etc.etc.
This knife cuts both ways, you idiot. Marc, at best you can say that
Hominids have *some* traits that are consistent with aquaticism. And
your opponents employ the same dimwittedness in opposing your vague
nonsense.
It's idiotic to suggest that humans are either aquatic adapted or
savanna adapted. It's an endlessly stupid argument that will,
undoubtedly, continue forever because the participants don't know how
to properly consider evidence.
Junk science happens when scientists believe something
based on just some of what they see.
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
The Hypothesis That Ends All Debate: http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6
http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6 |
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| Rick Wagler... |
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:07 pm |
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"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3348e837-95fa-4549-93ef-9d00b62fb9a4 at (no spam) g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On May 12, 3:57 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Aquatic Idiot stated:
None of these feature, my little boy, is seen
in savanna mammals.
Yeah, so?
Savanna Dimwit replied:
Really? But humans display some measure of your
list and they're savanna mammals.
Some, yes.
Aquatic idiot replied:
Yes, if some fool says we're savanna mammals, then
we're savanna mammals...
Savanna mammals, my little boy, have a keen sense
of smell, are fast, don't need much water, don't much
iodine, don't need much sodium etc.etc.
This knife cuts both ways, you idiot. Marc, at best you can say that
Hominids have *some* traits that are consistent with aquaticism. And
your opponents employ the same dimwittedness in opposing your vague
nonsense.
It's idiotic to suggest that humans are either aquatic adapted or
savanna adapted. It's an endlessly stupid argument that will,
undoubtedly, continue forever because the participants don't know how
to properly consider evidence.
Junk science happens when scientists believe something
based on just some of what they see.
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
The Hypothesis That Ends All Debate: http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6
http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6
A hypothesis cannot end a debate, you dimwit. It is the
beginning of one.
Rick Wagler |
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| Lee Olsen... |
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:17 am |
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On May 24, 3:47 am, "Paul Crowley"
<slkwuoiutiuytciu... at (no spam) slkjlskjoioue.com>
Quote: Each of the Savanna, the Aquatic, and
the Monsoon-Cities-in-the-Trees theories
can be rejected on the most obvious of
evidence.
Says the brainless imbecile who claims chimps don't have the capasity
to dig, Neanderals didn't hunt and there were no lions in Europe.
http://tinyurl.com/3cnmum
Paul Crowley: "Chimps do NOT have the capacity to dig."
Message-ID: <3257D73F.73A7 at (no spam) megafauna.com>
"First, you present the "fact" that there were no lions in Europe as
evidence that Neanderthals didn't hunt. Then, when someone points out
that there *were* lions in Europe, you claim that as *conclusive*
evidence that Neanderthals didn't hunt."
Stephen Barnard
> Paul. |
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| Paul Crowley... |
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:47 am |
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"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3348e837-95fa-4549-93ef-9d00b62fb9a4 at (no spam) g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Aquatic Idiot stated:
None of these feature, my little boy, is seen
in savanna mammals.
Savanna Dimwit replied:
Really? But humans display some measure of your
list and they're savanna mammals.
Aquatic idiot replied:
Yes, if some fool says we're savanna mammals, then
we're savanna mammals...
Savanna mammals, my little boy, have a keen sense
of smell, are fast, don't need much water, don't much
iodine, don't need much sodium etc.etc.
Monsoon Cities-in-the-trees Nutcase said:
Quote: This knife cuts both ways, you idiot. Marc, at best you can say that
Hominids have *some* traits that are consistent with aquaticism. And
your opponents employ the same dimwittedness in opposing your vague
nonsense.
It's idiotic to suggest that humans are either aquatic adapted or
savanna adapted.
Clearly.
Quote: Junk science happens when scientists believe something
based on just some of what they see.
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
Real science consists in REJECTING
bad theories on the basis of the
evidence, and then seeing what is left.
Each of the Savanna, the Aquatic, and
the Monsoon-Cities-in-the-Trees theories
can be rejected on the most obvious of
evidence.
Paul. |
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| Claudius Denk... |
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:30 am |
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On May 24, 3:47 am, "Paul Crowley"
<slkwuoiutiuytciu... at (no spam) slkjlskjoioue.com> wrote:
Quote: "Claudius Denk" <claudiusd... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3348e837-95fa-4549-93ef-9d00b62fb9a4 at (no spam) g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Aquatic Idiot stated:
None of these feature, my little boy, is seen
in savanna mammals.
Savanna Dimwit replied:
Really? But humans display some measure of your
list and they're savanna mammals.
Aquatic idiot replied:
Yes, if some fool says we're savanna mammals, then
we're savanna mammals...
Savanna mammals, my little boy, have a keen sense
of smell, are fast, don't need much water, don't much
iodine, don't need much sodium etc.etc.
Monsoon Cities-in-the-trees Nutcase said:
This knife cuts both ways, you idiot. Marc, at best you can say that
Hominids have *some* traits that are consistent with aquaticism. And
your opponents employ the same dimwittedness in opposing your vague
nonsense.
It's idiotic to suggest that humans are either aquatic adapted or
savanna adapted.
Clearly.
Junk science happens when scientists believe something
based on just some of what they see.
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
Real science consists in REJECTING
bad theories on the basis of the
evidence, and then seeing what is left.
Uh huh. And so . . .?
Quote: Each of the Savanna, the Aquatic, and
the Monsoon-Cities-in-the-Trees theories
can be rejected on the most obvious of
evidence.
Yeah, right.
What it comes down to, Paul, is that you have no evidence based
dispute with my hypothesis. Not only do you have no evidence based
dispute with the situational factors therein (onset of dry-season
monsoon climate, isolation of treed localities, tremendous competition
from food competitors, potential for collective predator siege/
massacres) but you also have no dispute with my assertion that this
explains the selective emergence of the communal territorialistic
behaviors/adaptations that are so plainly apparent in our species.
I'm not suggesting that early hominids resided in cities in the same
sense that we presently consider a city to be a city. Presently we
consider cities to be human constructs. Obviously I'm not suggesting
that early hominids built cities.
Current theory just assumes that cities emerged suddenly 8 thousand
years ago. It considers cities (and agriculture) as things that were
discovered at that time. What is left unexplained is the selective
origins of the behaviors and abilities necessary. The communal
selection of my hypothesis solves this riddle. |
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| Makouli... |
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:15 am |
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"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3348e837-95fa-4549-93ef-9d00b62fb9a4 at (no spam) g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On May 12, 3:57 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
[Dimmy mumbles on...]
This is really rich, Dimmy. Another of your "hypotheses",
this one dubbed as the one to end all consideration of
hypotheses --is actually a google search leading to a
series of posts where a smattering of your faithful readers
rip you several new orifices. I must say, reading you is
a constant source of laughs. How do you do it?
You won't mind then if I add this one to your other
two, eh (since you've called it a hypothesis)?
http://tinyurl.com/8fomk
http://tinyurl.com/2apxo2
http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6
Dimmy --various dates.
Quote: http://tinyurl.com/5chnp6
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"Facts mean little to true cult believers"
Dimmy --05/12/2008 |
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| Lee Olsen... |
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:20 am |
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On May 26, 5:45 am, "Paul Crowley"
<slkwuoiutiuytciu... at (no spam) slkjlskjoioue.com> wrote:
Quote: "Claudius Denk" <claudiusd... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e9027425-a6c2-45ee-abe7-ccf6aeab9511 at (no spam) q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
Real science consists in REJECTING
bad theories on the basis of the
evidence, and then seeing what is left.
Uh huh. And so . . .?
Your head is full of bad theories --
so obviously bad that any remotely
competent scientist would disregard
them. (Of course, that's also true of
the Savanna and Aquatic theorists.)
Squeaks the brainless loon who claims Neandertals
didn't hunt and chimps can't dig.
Message-ID: <3257D73F.73A7 at (no spam) megafauna.com>#1/1
"You really crack me up, Paul Crowley. If you keep it up I'm going to
hurt myself.
First, you present the "fact" that there were no lions in Europe as
evidence that Neanderthals didn't hunt. Then, when someone points out
that there *were* lions in Europe, you claim that as *conclusive*
evidence that Neanderthals didn't hunt.
Message-ID: <1160837514.938748.252i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Paul Crowley: "Chimps do NOT have the capacity to dig." |
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| Paul Crowley... |
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:45 am |
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"Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e9027425-a6c2-45ee-abe7-ccf6aeab9511 at (no spam) q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
Real science consists in REJECTING
bad theories on the basis of the
evidence, and then seeing what is left.
Uh huh. And so . . .?
Your head is full of bad theories --
so obviously bad that any remotely
competent scientist would disregard
them. (Of course, that's also true of
the Savanna and Aquatic theorists.)
Quote: Each of the Savanna, the Aquatic, and
the Monsoon-Cities-in-the-Trees theories
can be rejected on the most obvious of
evidence.
Yeah, right.
What it comes down to, Paul, is that you have no evidence based
dispute with my hypothesis.
Name two closely-related species
that occupy different habitats.
Quote: Not only do you have no evidence based
dispute with the situational factors therein (onset of dry-season
monsoon climate, isolation of treed localities, tremendous competition
from food competitors, potential for collective predator siege/
massacres
Quite unknown in nature.
Quote: Current theory just assumes that cities emerged suddenly 8 thousand
years ago.
Sure. Standard PA has not yet absorbed
the notion of ice ages. For some very
peculiar reason, they ALL assume that
human ancestors lived on the tops of hills,
preferably when they were covered in ice.
Quote: It considers cities (and agriculture) as things that were
discovered at that time.
Of course, you are identical to the
standard PA dopes. Where do you
think all the cities were 13 kya?
Quote: What is left unexplained is the selective
origins of the behaviors and abilities necessary. The communal
selection of my hypothesis solves this riddle.
Nope. It doesn't. It also ignores every
significant fact in hominid evolution,
and in evolution generally
Paul. |
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| Claudius Denk... |
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:26 am |
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On May 26, 5:45 am, "Paul Crowley"
<slkwuoiutiuytciu... at (no spam) slkjlskjoioue.com> wrote:
Quote: "Claudius Denk" <claudiusd... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e9027425-a6c2-45ee-abe7-ccf6aeab9511 at (no spam) q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Real science involves careful consideration of *ALL* of the evidence.
Real science consists in REJECTING
bad theories on the basis of the
evidence, and then seeing what is left.
Uh huh. And so . . .?
Your head is full of bad theories --
so obviously bad that any remotely
competent scientist would disregard
them.
Well then maybe you should attempt to locate a remotely competent
scientist and the two of you can put your heads together and see if
you can formulate a substantive dispute with the substantive
assertions that I presented in my hypothesis. Fair enough?
Quote: (Of course, that's also true of
the Savanna and Aquatic theorists.)
Your ability to discern truth with nothing more than a wave of the
hand is, well, magical. Do you know any other tricks?
Quote: Each of the Savanna, the Aquatic, and
the Monsoon-Cities-in-the-Trees theories
can be rejected on the most obvious of
evidence.
Yeah, right.
What it comes down to, Paul, is that you have no evidence based
dispute with my hypothesis.
Name two closely-related species
that occupy different habitats.
Do your own research.
Quote: Not only do you have no evidence based
dispute with the situational factors therein (onset of dry-season
monsoon climate, isolation of treed localities, tremendous competition
from food competitors, potential for collective predator siege/
massacres
Quite unknown in nature.
You know this how?
Quote: Current theory just assumes that cities emerged suddenly 8 thousand
years ago.
Sure. Standard PA has not yet absorbed
the notion of ice ages.
Relevance? Don't assume the rest of us have direct access to your
imagination.
Quote: For some very
peculiar reason, they ALL assume that
human ancestors lived on the tops of hills,
preferably when they were covered in ice.
It considers cities (and agriculture) as things that were
discovered at that time.
Of course, you are identical to the
standard PA dopes. Where do you
think all the cities were 13 kya?
Do your own research.
Quote: What is left unexplained is the selective
origins of the behaviors and abilities necessary. The communal
selection of my hypothesis solves this riddle.
Nope. It doesn't.
If you have a dispute with my assertion why don't you present it. Is
it a secret?
Quote: It also ignores every
significant fact in hominid evolution,
and in evolution generally
Don't assume the rest of us have direct access to your imagination. |
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| Rick Wagler... |
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:58 am |
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"Paul Crowley" <slkwuoiutiuytciuyik at (no spam) slkjlskjoioue.com> wrote in message
news:wmA_j.25616$j7.469474 at (no spam) news.indigo.ie...
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What it comes down to, Paul, is that you have no evidence based
dispute with my hypothesis.
Name two closely-related species
that occupy different habitats.
The Canada lynx (Lynx canadensis) and the bobcat
(Lynx rufus). The former inhabits the northern boreal
forest and specializes in preying upon snowhoe hares,
The latter is widely distributed south of the boreal
forest where winters are not too severe and is a generalized
predator.
Will that do?
Rick Wagler |
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| Paul Crowley... |
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:35 pm |
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"Rick Wagler" <taxidea3 at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote in message news:c%B_j.295913$pM4.67513 at (no spam) pd7urf1no...
Quote: What it comes down to, Paul, is that you have no evidence based
dispute with my hypothesis.
Name two closely-related species
that occupy different habitats.
The Canada lynx (Lynx canadensis) and the bobcat
(Lynx rufus). The former inhabits the northern boreal
forest and specializes in preying upon snowhoe hares,
The latter is widely distributed south of the boreal
forest where winters are not too severe and is a generalized
predator.
Will that do?
Carnivores are not too difficult in this respect.
The Arctic fox is presumably close to the
standard fox, and the timber wolf is not too
far from the coyote (or from other wolves, for
that matter). Tigers are not far from lions.
Polar bears not far from grizzlies.
But the point is that none of these speciations
would have arisen in the manner stated by the
greatest living evolutionist where, in fact, he is
merely stating the 'conventional wisdom'.
According to it (and him) when there is a change
in climate, the animals don't move north or south,
they turn into something else.
We can see it happening right now. And think
of all the new species that arose around 12kya.
Paul. |
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