In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826cc... at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

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The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if* it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Did you ask him why you should have an MRI instead of a CT ... *or* why
you should have both?  You can tell him that I asked you to ask him.  I
have no problem with that.

Webby

In article
tmjiatroepidemic-F391DE.21282023062... at (no spam) news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
 The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:



In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826cc... at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd
with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if*
it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Did you ask him why you should have an MRI instead of a CT ... *or* why
you should have both?  You can tell him that I asked you to ask him.  I
have no problem with that.

Webby

jerm, I asked as I did only because he said you should go on with the
MRI.  Had he not said that, my question/s would not have been the same.  
Instead, I would have asked you to ask him if you need a "study" ... and
if so, which study/s should you have in order to *"rule in and rule
out"* whatever it is "they" are looking for in answer to your unresolved
symptoms.

Anyway, maybe I should have kept my fingers tied down or my keyboard
locked up.  Hmmmmm.

Webby

On Jun 23, 9:51 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
b87dc530-70c7-48ea-a43d-fae62f09f... at (no spam) a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,



 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:29 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
33123c76-32ce-4a06-be90-cda0d36a9... at (no spam) p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,

 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 4:38 am, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com> wrote:
I would until Jim says he doesn't have any more
options.

Make a 'standard' NTI and 80% of patients get better fast.

A little tweaking here or there, and another 10-15% show
improvement.

The last 5% are tough.

Steve

 Steve, are the last 5% just tough, or are they definitely not going
to work out?

just keep going back then huh.

Ask your docs if there could be a problem with your coronoid process.
It's a long......long shot... but *worth* asking.  And ask *if* the MRI
will provide a good study of that structure (right and left).

The guy figures it's a no-brainer to get an MRI to prove (to you) that
your "clicking" is because of an internal derangement inside the joint.
 
That's all well and good and expensive ... but does it also prove that
facial bones related to the jaw function are not part of the problem?

Rule in and rule out.  

That is my two-cents on the subject for now.

Webby

The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if* it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

On Jun 23, 7:36 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
6142cc19-0738-494b-90aa-0a0e7d9bf... at (no spam) s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,



 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:51 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
b87dc530-70c7-48ea-a43d-fae62f09f... at (no spam) a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:29 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
33123c76-32ce-4a06-be90-cda0d36a9... at (no spam) p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,

 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 4:38 am, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com
wrote:
I would until Jim says he doesn't have any more
options.

Make a 'standard' NTI and 80% of patients get better fast.

A little tweaking here or there, and another 10-15% show
improvement.

The last 5% are tough.

Steve

 Steve, are the last 5% just tough, or are they definitely not
going
to work out?

just keep going back then huh.

Ask your docs if there could be a problem with your coronoid
process.
It's a long......long shot... but *worth* asking.  And ask *if* the
MRI
will provide a good study of that structure (right and left).

The guy figures it's a no-brainer to get an MRI to prove (to you)
that
your "clicking" is because of an internal derangement inside the
joint.
 
That's all well and good and expensive ... but does it also prove
that
facial bones related to the jaw function are not part of the
problem?

Rule in and rule out.  

That is my two-cents on the subject for now.

Webby

The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if* it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826ccf89 at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 23, 7:36 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
6142cc19-0738-494b-90aa-0a0e7d9bf... at (no spam) s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,



 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:51 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
b87dc530-70c7-48ea-a43d-fae62f09f... at (no spam) a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:29 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
33123c76-32ce-4a06-be90-cda0d36a9... at (no spam) p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com
,

 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 21, 4:38 am, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc... at (no spam) myturbonet.com
wrote:
I would until Jim says he doesn't have any more
options.

Make a 'standard' NTI and 80% of patients get better fast.

A little tweaking here or there, and another 10-15% show
improvement.

The last 5% are tough.

Steve

 Steve, are the last 5% just tough, or are they definitely not
going
to work out?

just keep going back then huh.

Ask your docs if there could be a problem with your coronoid
process.
It's a long......long shot... but *worth* asking.  And ask *if*
the
MRI
will provide a good study of that structure (right and left).

The guy figures it's a no-brainer to get an MRI to prove (to you)
that
your "clicking" is because of an internal derangement inside the
joint.
 
That's all well and good and expensive ... but does it also prove
that
facial bones related to the jaw function are not part of the
problem?

Rule in and rule out.  

That is my two-cents on the subject for now.

Webby

The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd
with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if*
it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Hmmmm. Ask him what you can learn from the MRI than you can not learn
from a CT (3-D) as it might apply to your condition.

Webby

The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if* it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826ccf89 at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd
with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if*
it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Did you ask him why you should have an MRI instead of a CT ... *or* why
you should have both? You can tell him that I asked you to ask him. I
have no problem with that.

Webby

On Jun 23, 9:28 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826cc... at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, jerm
blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

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The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for
a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr.Boyd
with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying
to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if*
it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some
comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Did you ask him why you should have an MRI instead of a CT ... *or* why
you should have both?  You can tell him that I asked you to ask him.  I
have no problem with that.

Webby

I only let him know by email that I could get it done and paid for,
and he just sent a short reply
saying to go for it, and that it might solve a mystery, as ive been
plaguing him for a while now.
Im guessing that not having a dramatic resolution by now my chances
are dwindling possibly.

Thanks Webby

In article
8c6e19d2-f9db-487f-9f83-d58c68405... at (no spam) s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,



 jerm <blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:28 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
260ac7f0-a34b-4e3e-85f1-df18826cc... at (no spam) h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, jerm
blown... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

[cut to shorten]

The doctor who ordered the MRI is a neurologist I havent seen for
a
couple months(took that long to get it authorized), and
I had'nt really planned on going back to him since I see Dr..Boyd
with
a really good neurologist. Anyways, the MRI
is scheduled for tomorrow for the bilateral TMJs, and Im trying
to
decide if I should cancel or not.

Did you ask Dr. Boyd what he thinks?  What do you have to lose by
delaying it until you talk to him? *And* ask if you might be better
served by getting a CT scan instead or in addition to an MRI *if*
it's
time to get studies at this point.

Webby

I cancelled it and sent him an email. I hate that im not doing better
and feel like
a complete nuisance. I can even concentrate with this pain. I think i
better drop my classes as well.
People just look at me like im the biggest grouch in the world. I
guess its all showing on my facial expression.

jerm, I have to do a few things and then I'll be back with some
comments.

Webby

No prob, thanks.....Jim just emailed me and said about the MRI that I
should
go for it. its not giving me a good feeling.

Did you ask him why you should have an MRI instead of a CT ... *or* why
you should have both?  You can tell him that I asked you to ask him..  I
have no problem with that.

Webby

I only let him know by email that I could get it done and paid for,
and he just sent a short reply
saying to go for it, and that it might solve a mystery, as ive been
plaguing him for a while now.
Im guessing that not having a dramatic resolution by now my chances
are dwindling possibly.

Thanks Webby

*NO*.  No one said your chances of a resolution are dwindling. You
forgot about the *patience* part of it all. ...

You're tired of it all ... that doesn't mean you should conclude
anything yet.  Get some rest tonight and arise tomorrow with some
strength you do not have right now at the end of the day.

I am going to start a new thread about this subject tomorrow. It's time
to shift gears just a bit.

Webby