Nazi

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/78dc9358c876b54c?&q=spark+plug+electrolyser
h2op... at (no spam) aol.comic (None of Your Business) wrote :

The bottom line is that Harry Conover is a confidence artist who is
quite successful in employing an obvious hoax technique
to defame numerous people in this NG.

Here is the video again kids.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aqc_dpuA0

Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You are one sick dude. Get help. You need help desperately. Your ravings
about impossible physical and chemical violations of basic principles
shows you to be even more deluded than even Stanley Meyer was.

I've looked over your questions but again there was nothing there I
can use.

However,
your complaints are noted and laughed at.

gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 16, 12:34 am, Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You are one sick dude. Get help. You need help desperately. Your ravings
about impossible physical and chemical violations of basic principles
shows you to be even more deluded than even Stanley Meyer was.

I've looked over your questions but again there was nothing there I
can use.

However,
your complaints are noted and laughed at.

You ignorance is noted and I've wept slightly. Why? Because there are
those who are even more stupid than  you who might believe your arrant
nonsense has an iota of logic to it.
FK

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/78dc9358c876b5...
On Apr 12 2002, 5:05 am, h2op... at (no spam) aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

The bottom line is that Harry Conover is a confidence artist who is
quite successful in employing an obvious hoax technique
to defame numerous people in this NG.

Here is the video again kids.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aqc_dpuA0

On May 16, 12:34 am, Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You are one sick dude. Get help. You need help desperately. Your ravings
about impossible physical and chemical violations of basic principles
shows you to be even more deluded than even Stanley Meyer was.


I've looked over your questions but again there was nothing there I
can use.

However,
your complaints are noted and laughed at.

On May 15, 3:44 pm, "gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com" <gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/78dc9358c876b5...
On Apr 12 2002, 5:05 am, h2op... at (no spam) aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

The bottom line is that Harry Conover is a confidence artist who is
quite successful in employing an obvious hoax technique
to defame numerous people in this NG.

Here is the video again kids.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aqc_dpuA0

Here is a more current video kids...which reveals some of the
magicians secrets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__YCvFF8iM

Are you the con-man that JW (h2opwd) is always acusing me, a graduate
physicist and enineer, being.

I would love for either you or JW to explain to other readers how I
and a few others are deceiving anyone by posting obvious scientific
facts to refute the possiblity of extracting usable energy from water
though electrolysis, or for that matter, an optical microscope said to
be capable of imaging viruses (the Royal Rife Scam), and many other
scams that either steal money from uneducated people, or place their
health in jeopardy.

Please demonstrate how I could profit in any way from the Usenet posts
that I make, thus it is demonstated (QED) that unlike some of you
posters, I am not a confidence artist as some of you appear to be.

Keep on promoting your scams if you are confidence artists and have no
consciences. Worry about law enforcement, and not the critical posts
that you will read from the technicians, engineers, and scientists
posting on the newsgroup. Law enforcement may eventually fine your or
put you in the slammer, but all the scientific crowd here can to is to
scare away some of your potential victims by causing them to do more
research (Google is their friend), before investing in any of the
outrageous schemes or fraud devices.

Harry C.

Interesing, after 7 years, you for a rather obvious motivation you
went back and dredged up a post that slandered me in 2002

gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
You ignorance is noted and I've wept slightly.

User wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:35:06 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelati... at (no spam) REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

Since this concept violates the first law of thermodynamics and this apparatus
has never been demonstrated to work and has never been reproduced, it was met
with much skepticism and was later found to be a hoax. The purpose of the hoax
was likely to attract gullible investors, selling them licensing rights for a
"revolutionary" technology. The inventor, Mr.StanleyMeyer(died at March 21,
1998[1]), was later successfully sued by some of these disgruntled investors,
whom he had sold "dealerships", and convicted for "gross and egregious
fraud".[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell

Wikipedia should be corrected.

More like banished.
It is full of inaccuracies and lies.

The fraud trial was in 1996, a couple years beforeMeyer'sdeath. He
was found guilty and ordered to repay some of his victims, and it
effectively put a stop to his fraud scheme.

Hardly.
He was NEVER given any type of cease and desist order.
He was fines ONR DOLLAR, ONE DOLLAR, ONE DOLLAR, for this allegid
"gross and agrgious fraud."

However, he spent the rest of his life trying to convince people that
the fraud trial was a sham, and he once wrote a long rambling letter
to a bunch of his remaining "investors" detailing espionage, theft,
gunplay, etc., to try to keep them from taking him to court to get
their money back. (It reads like a James Bond novel, and it
illustrates just how disconnected with realityMeyerwas.)

Funny how the truth sounds when you own and control technology WORTH
TRILLIONS.

Meyerdied of a brain aneurism in 1998. But to this day there are
still loonies out there who insist he was poisoned or was "killed with
a microwave weapon" to suppress his great technology.

Yes, funny how he had this "aneurism" right at the dinner table with
the guy who jusy agreed to fund his prouction plant for 50 million
bucks.
But that's just a "coincidence"
As is his body being cremated to destroy any evidence of foul play.

And here we are nearing $4/gallon for gasoline, and none of those
loonies has bothered to rescue us withMeyer'swater powered car.
Shame on them.

Yup.
And not a soul here besides me, JW, and a few others give a rats ass.

Anyone wanting background on this particular scam or confidence
game,
Google "stan meyer scam"

Harry C.

[SNIP ISANE LIES]

knews4u2c... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On May 17, 3:02 pm, hhc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On May 15, 3:44 pm, "gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com" <gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/78dc9358c876b5...
On Apr 12 2002, 5:05 am, h2op... at (no spam) aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:
The bottom line is that Harry Conover is a confidence artist who is
quite successful in employing an obvious hoax technique
to defame numerous people in this NG.
Here is the video again kids.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aqc_dpuA0
Here is a more current video kids...which reveals some of the
magicians secrets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__YCvFF8iM

Are you the con-man that JW (h2opwd) is always acusing me, a graduate
physicist and enineer, being.

I would love for either you or JW to explain to other readers how I
and a few others are deceiving anyone by posting obvious scientific
facts to refute the possiblity of extracting usable energy from water
though electrolysis, or for that matter, an optical microscope said to
be capable of imaging viruses (the Royal Rife Scam), and many other
scams that either steal money from uneducated people, or place their
health in jeopardy.

Please demonstrate how I could profit in any way from the Usenet posts
that I make, thus it is demonstated (QED) that unlike some of you
posters, I am not a confidence artist as some of you appear to be.

Keep on promoting your scams if you are confidence artists and have no
consciences. Worry about law enforcement, and not the critical posts
that you will read from the technicians, engineers, and scientists
posting on the newsgroup. Law enforcement may eventually fine your or
put you in the slammer, but all the scientific crowd here can to is to
scare away some of your potential victims by causing them to do more
research (Google is their friend), before investing in any of the
outrageous schemes or fraud devices.

Harry C.

Interesing, after 7 years, you for a rather obvious motivation you
went back and dredged up a post that slandered me in 2002

Harry, you and your ilk are liars just like the government and every
other entrenched institution.
Here is how you guys deny reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZpRcTBwdA&feature=related

But they're all liars or "misinterpreted what they saw."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fwKDjq3ZHdQ

You can present no bone fides to demonstrate that you are a more
reliable person to present an opinion on matters such as electrolysis or
any other question of physics or chemistry. And your repeating posts
that you may not have written but which can't distinguish between an
energy (electron volts) and a potential (volts) and claims that a
process that works with low energies is a nuclear process rather than a
chemical process that only serve to further discredit you. Thus what you
claim is not worthy of any claim to creditbility. And your history of
repeatedly masked identities makes you further lacking in credibility.
Hiding your identity repeatedly and denying that you do such makes you
not worthy of even a shred of credibility.
FK

On May 17, 3:57 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 16, 12:34 am, Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You are one sick dude. Get help. You need help desperately. Your ravings
about impossible physical and chemical violations of basic principles
shows you to be even more deluded than even Stanley Meyer was.
I've looked over your questions but again there was nothing there I
can use.
However,
your complaints are noted and laughed at.
You ignorance is noted and I've wept slightly. Why? Because there are
those who are even more stupid than you who might believe your arrant
nonsense has an iota of logic to it.
FK

Fred. I don't believe that posters are totally stupid, but in fact
post is a desperate attempt to save face in front of the people that
either have already scammed, or plan to do so in the future in the
future.

Take our old friend JW for example. He has over the years admitted to
having invested in Stan Meyer's scan. JW doesn't want to write -off
his foolish investment (which any honorable business many would do at
this point), so he continues to promote Stan's con-game in the hope
that with will reel in another generation of fools sometime in the
future years. That way JW while standing at an arm's length away from
those actually promoting the scam. likely hopes to recover his
investment.

Surprusingly Fred, the Meyer Same is still alive and being actively
promoted. Worth a try, because there is definitely no "fool" shortage
on earth.

And no, I have no idea who this new poster promoting the Meyer Scam
is, although it may be JW in drag, Stan's brother, or an unrelated
fellow confidence artist with more than a passive interest in the
scam's success.

Here something that I found on the Net, with will no doubt drive JW up
the wall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__YCvFF8iM

Also, anone wanting background on this particular scam or confidence
game,
Google "stan meyer scam"

Harry C.

On May 18, 4:51 pm, Don Lancaster <d... at (no spam) tinaja.com> wrote:
[SNIP ISANE LIES]

DON LANCASTER IS A NAZI.

On May 17, 3:02 pm, hhc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On May 15, 3:44 pm, "gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com" <gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/78dc9358c876b5...
On Apr 12 2002, 5:05 am, h2op... at (no spam) aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:
The bottom line is that Harry Conover is a confidence artist who is
quite successful in employing an obvious hoax technique
to defame numerous people in this NG.
Here is the video again kids.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aqc_dpuA0
Here is a more current video kids...which reveals some of the
magicians secrets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__YCvFF8iM

Are you the con-man that JW (h2opwd) is always acusing me, a graduate
physicist and enineer, being.

I would love for either you or JW to explain to other readers how I
and a few others are deceiving anyone by posting obvious scientific
facts to refute the possiblity of extracting usable energy from water
though electrolysis, or for that matter, an optical microscope said to
be capable of imaging viruses (the Royal Rife Scam), and many other
scams that either steal money from uneducated people, or place their
health in jeopardy.

Please demonstrate how I could profit in any way from the Usenet posts
that I make, thus it is demonstated (QED) that unlike some of you
posters, I am not a confidence artist as some of you appear to be.

Keep on promoting your scams if you are confidence artists and have no
consciences. Worry about law enforcement, and not the critical posts
that you will read from the technicians, engineers, and scientists
posting on the newsgroup. Law enforcement may eventually fine your or
put you in the slammer, but all the scientific crowd here can to is to
scare away some of your potential victims by causing them to do more
research (Google is their friend), before investing in any of the
outrageous schemes or fraud devices.

Harry C.

Interesing, after 7 years, you for a rather obvious motivation you
went back and dredged up a post that slandered me in 2002

Harry, you and your ilk are liars just like the government and every
other entrenched institution.
Here is how you guys deny reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZpRcTBwdA&feature=related

But they're all liars or "misinterpreted what they saw."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fwKDjq3ZHdQ

On May 17, 9:57 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
gdewi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
You ignorance is noted and I've wept slightly.

You are a Nazi Fred.

Feel free to go play your Nazi games with some one else now you
fascist pig.

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=stanley+meyer&qt_s=Search&enc_author=XM0UlhUAAAAIgtGCKCmz1_QjeqoOQ4a4wqx5Qun6pfYCXXP0iztuYg
On Aug 5 2006, 10:22 pm, knews4u2c... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
User wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:35:06 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelati... at (no spam) REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
Since this concept violates the first law of thermodynamics and this apparatus
has never been demonstrated to work and has never been reproduced, it was met
with much skepticism and was later found to be a hoax. The purpose of the hoax
was likely to attract gullible investors, selling them licensing rights for a
"revolutionary" technology. The inventor, Mr.StanleyMeyer(died at March 21,
1998[1]), was later successfully sued by some of these disgruntled investors,
whom he had sold "dealerships", and convicted for "gross and egregious
fraud".[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell
Wikipedia should be corrected.
More like banished.
It is full of inaccuracies and lies.

The fraud trial was in 1996, a couple years beforeMeyer'sdeath. He
was found guilty and ordered to repay some of his victims, and it
effectively put a stop to his fraud scheme.
Hardly.
He was NEVER given any type of cease and desist order.
He was fines ONR DOLLAR, ONE DOLLAR, ONE DOLLAR, for this allegid
"gross and agrgious fraud."

However, he spent the rest of his life trying to convince people that
the fraud trial was a sham, and he once wrote a long rambling letter
to a bunch of his remaining "investors" detailing espionage, theft,
gunplay, etc., to try to keep them from taking him to court to get
their money back. (It reads like a James Bond novel, and it
illustrates just how disconnected with realityMeyerwas.)
Funny how the truth sounds when you own and control technology WORTH
TRILLIONS.

Meyerdied of a brain aneurism in 1998. But to this day there are
still loonies out there who insist he was poisoned or was "killed with
a microwave weapon" to suppress his great technology.
Yes, funny how he had this "aneurism" right at the dinner table with
the guy who jusy agreed to fund his prouction plant for 50 million
bucks.
But that's just a "coincidence"
As is his body being cremated to destroy any evidence of foul play.

And here we are nearing $4/gallon for gasoline, and none of those
loonies has bothered to rescue us withMeyer'swater powered car.
Shame on them.
Yup.
And not a soul here besides me, JW, and a few others give a rats ass.

You think it's not obvious huh Adolf?

It's lies all the way with you.

It's clear and obvious, you liar sum.