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| SBC Yahoo... |
 Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:15 pm |
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On Wednesday, my colleague Maggie and I went to an advance screening of Ben
Stein's upcoming documentary, Expelled: No intelligence allowed. It purports
to be about threats to academic freedom, but it seemed more like a
pro-religion, pro-intelligent design propaganda film that looks like a bad
Michael Moore rip-off
The film was just silly, with virtually zero scientific content, which, of
course, is not surprising coming from Ben Stein - a comedian, speech writer
and game show host . . . but not a scientist.
I'm hopeful that anyone with the least bit of intelligence (no pun intended)
will see straight through the film's hokey attempts to distract viewers from
the lack of scientific credibility with appeals to their emotions - like the
dark lighting, foreboding music and harsh camera angles that set the scene
for Stein's interview with - dun dun dun - biologist Richard Dawkins, an
avowed atheist.
Or worse, the countless images and references to Nazis that culminate in
Stein dopily wandering through the Dachau concentration camp pondering the
ways in which the "Darwinian gospel" was a "necessary but not sufficient
condition" for the atrocities that took place there.
But the real silliness came after the credits rolled, when the audience had
a chance to pose questions to Mark Mathis, the film's producer.
One woman said it was morally reprehensible to equate the death of six
million Jews with Darwin. I clapped, and was astounded when nearly everyone
else remained silent.
I shot my hand up to ask a question. "The intelligent design movement has
gone to great lengths to argue that intelligent design is not religion, that
it's science. And you made a whole film arguing that it is religious. How do
they react to that?"
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/03/are-id-proponents-being-silenced.html
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New Scientist doing a film review? Must have been a slow science month. We
need more "discoveries". I call their magazine "food for the brain".
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| Timberwoof... |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:40 pm |
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In article <Mz1Wj.4567$3O7.1247 at (no spam) newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
"SBC Yahoo" <atilla.the.hun at (no spam) liberals.suck.net> wrote:
Quote: One woman said it was morally reprehensible to equate the death of six
million Jews with Darwin. I clapped, and was astounded when nearly everyone
else remained silent.
How come we so often forget the other six million people?
Quote: I shot my hand up to ask a question. "The intelligent design movement has
gone to great lengths to argue that intelligent design is not religion, that
it's science. And you made a whole film arguing that it is religious. How do
they react to that?"
I'd like someone to ask the question, "You've spent the whole film
arguing that Intelligent Design is science, yet you also argue that
science led to the Holocaust. Can we not conclude that Intelligent
Design will lead to its own Holocaust?"
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| Timberwoof... |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:50 pm |
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In article <Mz1Wj.4567$3O7.1247 at (no spam) newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
"SBC Yahoo" <atilla.the.hun at (no spam) liberals.suck.net> wrote:
Quote: http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/03/are-id-proponents-being-silenced.html
'When Mathis was responding, the guy asked another question, and the
producer shot back, "How about you let me finish talking?" Then, a
security guard for the film approached the calmly seated man and told
him, "I may have to ask you to leave."
'"Does anyone else see how ironic this is?" the guy asked.
'"Shut up!" someone shouted from the back.'
It seems that Mathis and his fanboys are perfectly happy to silence
those who question his "documentary". It's not the ID proponents who are
being silenced.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| Simeon Nevel... |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:13 pm |
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