Oh wow, it had to have been at least 30-35 years ago. Do they still have
the color-coded trails? I remember my mom showing me the different shapes
of the leaves on the sassafrass trees when we were there, and yes, I
remember the stable. If I ever get back that way again during a human time
of year (somehow it seems like it's always January when I get to Ohio), I'll
have to see if it's still as beautiful as I remember.

Thanks, Marsha!

Anne

If you ever get back here any time of year, let me know, if you'd like. I
would love to meet you for lunch or something.

Marsha/Ohio

Ahh yes, our big city government with our wonderful, wonderful mayor!
(Much sarcasm here). On my walk this morning (trash day in this
neighborhood today) I noticed the wonderful 96-gallon trash cans sitting
at the curb on two blocks, waiting for the automated truck to come and get
them. A recent letter to the editor in the Blade stated it would cost $20
million for new trucks and each resident will be provided one garbage
container and one recycling contaier. Of course until after the recent
election, Toledo was broke, only afterward did they find a great deal of
money which no one kne existed. Of course, this means you can't recycle
paper or you can't recycle cans/bottles because we have to separate them,
but are only getting one container for recycling material. If the
containers are stolen we will be required to buy new ones (I think it said
about $100 each).

Of course the trucks will be heavier and tear up the streets faster, but
for all of this we gladly are taxed three times for the same trash pickup;
one: property taxes which, until dear sweet "King Carty" took office,
took care of unlimited trash pickup, two: a 3/4% tax for police, fire, and
oh yes, unlimited trash pickup. Three: A monthly tax attached to our
water bills for . . . trash pickup. For all of this we get torn up
streets, only one container per week, no large item pickup, and the
elderly and handicapped trying to maneurver full 96-gallon containers to
the curb in the dead of winter with ice, sleet, and snow.

Yes, Marsha, I'm glad you don't have to put up with our big city
government (at least as long as Carty Finkbeiner is the mayor)!

When I lived outside of Swanton 45 years ago life was much simpler and
much calmer than life in Toledo today.

"Marsha" <mas at (no spam) xeb.net> wrote in message
news:g0dcn1$c45$1 at (no spam) news.datemas.de...

Most Toledo suburbs have a relatively low cost of living and we are
within a short drive of a lot of good stuff, but we don't have to put up
with a big city environment.

Ahh yes, our big city government with our wonderful, wonderful mayor!
(Much sarcasm here). On my walk this morning (trash day in this
neighborhood today) I noticed the wonderful 96-gallon trash cans sitting
at the curb on two blocks, waiting for the automated truck to come and get
them. A recent letter to the editor in the Blade stated it would cost $20
million for new trucks and each resident will be provided one garbage
container and one recycling contaier. Of course until after the recent
election, Toledo was broke, only afterward did they find a great deal of
money which no one kne existed. Of course, this means you can't recycle
paper or you can't recycle cans/bottles because we have to separate them,
but are only getting one container for recycling material. If the
containers are stolen we will be required to buy new ones (I think it said
about $100 each).

Of course the trucks will be heavier and tear up the streets faster, but
for all of this we gladly are taxed three times for the same trash pickup;
one: property taxes which, until dear sweet "King Carty" took office,
took care of unlimited trash pickup, two: a 3/4% tax for police, fire, and
oh yes, unlimited trash pickup. Three: A monthly tax attached to our
water bills for . . . trash pickup. For all of this we get torn up
streets, only one container per week, no large item pickup, and the
elderly and handicapped trying to maneurver full 96-gallon containers to
the curb in the dead of winter with ice, sleet, and snow.

Yes, Marsha, I'm glad you don't have to put up with our big city
government (at least as long as Carty Finkbeiner is the mayor)!

When I lived outside of Swanton 45 years ago life was much simpler and
much calmer than life in Toledo today.
\

Holy Toledo! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) It sounds like someone needs to
ask for clarification as to why you guys are paying for garbage service in
so many different ways. That's lousy.

Anne

"Phyllis Nilsson" <phyllisnilsson at (no spam) buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:Fu2dnfygJbsvq7HVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d at (no spam) buckeye-express.com...
Ahh yes, our big city government with our wonderful, wonderful mayor!
(Much sarcasm here). On my walk this morning (trash day in this
neighborhood today) I noticed the wonderful 96-gallon trash cans sitting
at the curb on two blocks, waiting for the automated truck to come and
get them. A recent letter to the editor in the Blade stated it would
cost $20 million for new trucks and each resident will be provided one
garbage container and one recycling contaier. Of course until after the
recent election, Toledo was broke, only afterward did they find a great
deal of money which no one kne existed. Of course, this means you can't
recycle paper or you can't recycle cans/bottles because we have to
separate them, but are only getting one container for recycling material.
If the containers are stolen we will be required to buy new ones (I think
it said about $100 each).

Of course the trucks will be heavier and tear up the streets faster, but
for all of this we gladly are taxed three times for the same trash
pickup; one: property taxes which, until dear sweet "King Carty" took
office, took care of unlimited trash pickup, two: a 3/4% tax for police,
fire, and oh yes, unlimited trash pickup. Three: A monthly tax attached
to our water bills for . . . trash pickup. For all of this we get torn
up streets, only one container per week, no large item pickup, and the
elderly and handicapped trying to maneurver full 96-gallon containers to
the curb in the dead of winter with ice, sleet, and snow.

Yes, Marsha, I'm glad you don't have to put up with our big city
government (at least as long as Carty Finkbeiner is the mayor)!

When I lived outside of Swanton 45 years ago life was much simpler and
much calmer than life in Toledo today.
\

Holy Toledo! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) It sounds like someone needs to ask
for clarification as to why you guys are paying for garbage service in so
many different ways. That's lousy.

Actually, and I believe it darn near everywhere even here as we have no
competing garbage companies, did you watch the Sopranos? What business were
they in? It seems ripe with Mafia -- the garbage business and crooked
politicians they seem to go hand-in-hand. I tried to get another outfit to
get our garbage and got "we don't touch Lakewood". What? "That is LeMay's
area." What? When a politician was running, a very honest guy in our area,
against a crooked incumbent, the garbage company had their haulers picking
up and "removing" the good guy's signs. I'm beginning to think this may be
going on in every city -- perhaps, Phyllis, that is what is happening in
your City!

Toledo's trash collectors are city employees with a union. That's the
problem in a nutshell. Their contract says they get paid for an 8-hour
day, even though most finish their route in 4 hours. Then the mayor
decided to charge extra for trash pickup, even for those who recycle,
although that's a lesser charge. Despite the fact that this service is
supposedly paid for through taxes. I can't believe there hasn't been a
serious backlash against this crap. I do agree that Toledo residents have
been spoiled with unlimited pickup for so many years, compared to other
municipalities. The automated collection trucks do have big advantages.
It will cut down on union wages (the mayor said no one would lose their
job - the workers will be offered other city jobs, but it's hard to
imagine what else a trash collector might be qualified for). It will also
cut down the Workers Compensation claims. Hopefully it will make people
see they waste a lot. We are a family of two and we barely have more than
one bag a week. But, like Phyllis said, no one thought of older or
disabled residents trying to move a 96-gallon container to the curb. The
containers will also be a hot comodity on the theft market.

Marsha/Ohio

Actually, and I believe it darn near everywhere even here as we have no
competing garbage companies, did you watch the Sopranos? What business
were they in? It seems ripe with Mafia -- the garbage business and crooked
politicians they seem to go hand-in-hand. I tried to get another outfit to
get our garbage and got "we don't touch Lakewood". What? "That is LeMay's
area." What? When a politician was running, a very honest guy in our
area, against a crooked incumbent, the garbage company had their haulers
picking up and "removing" the good guy's signs. I'm beginning to think
this may be going on in every city -- perhaps, Phyllis, that is what is
happening in your City!

Holy Toledo! (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
I always get a laugh out of Holy Toledo (or Holey Toledo). It has to be
the pot hole capital of the world. They even have a 24-hour pot hole hot
line. Airport Highway from Spring Meadows shopping center to west of the
airport was sure nice though after it was redone.

Is Carty still mayor? He sure is a cantankerous (sp?) character. The
sheriff of a neighboring county here in AZ I think is a lot like Carty.
This sheriff has built a tent city jail because of jail overcrowding.
Inmates all wear pink underwear and black and white striped prisoner
clothing. A few years back he refused to let them have television. One
inmate got a lawyer and took it to court. The court ruled in favor of
the prisoner and made the sheriff provide television. He did, but only
C-Span. Haaaaa, I got a kick out of that! I guess the court didn't
specify what channels the sheriff had to provide, just "television."


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I always get a laugh out of Holy Toledo (or Holey Toledo). It has to be
the pot hole capital of the world. They even have a 24-hour pot hole hot
line. Airport Highway from Spring Meadows shopping center to west of the
airport was sure nice though after it was redone.

Is Carty still mayor? He sure is a cantankerous (sp?) character. The
sheriff of a neighboring county here in AZ I think is a lot like Carty.
This sheriff has built a tent city jail because of jail overcrowding.
Inmates all wear pink underwear and black and white striped prisoner
clothing. A few years back he refused to let them have television. One
inmate got a lawyer and took it to court. The court ruled in favor of
the prisoner and made the sheriff provide television. He did, but only
C-Span. Haaaaa, I got a kick out of that! I guess the court didn't
specify what channels the sheriff had to provide, just "television."


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Unfortunately, "Crazy Carty Who Would be King" had two terms, out for one,
then re-elected because the new mayor didn't smile enough. Says he
doesn't know if he will run for a second term the second time. He got
caught parking in a handicapped parking spot without a placard on a very
hot day with his dog "Scout" left in the car without water. He was fined,
the newspapers reported it, but some thought he ought to have had his dog
confiscated for abuse. He then made a public service video saying how bad
it was to leave your dog in a car, even with the window cracked open.
Yeah, he's a real peach.

I'll trade you our mayor for your sheriff. We see news stories about him
every once in awhile and I surely do admire that sheriff. If there were
more like him in this country, there would be fewer criminals, the need
for new prisons would decrease, and the money could be used for pot hole
reduction, or even, Heaven forbid, repaving of our city streets with
something that will last more than 10 years!

Joe Arpaio, isn't that his name?