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| Manky Badger... |
 Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:46 pm |
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<ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
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On May 18, 10:13 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking>
Now looking at your .. schooling .. ? .. I don't believe you are
qualified for any of the work ..**I** .. do.
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Nor do I.
As a matter of interest, what did you do before you were made unemployed? |
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| wrthomps at (no spam) ix.netcom.com... |
| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:08 pm |
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From the unplumbed depth of his ignorance,
the Ferrous Fuckwit <teamtosser at (no spam) hotmail.com> raved:
Quote: Every diabetic is iron overloaded sez .. **me** ..
Describe the experimental technique you used to support
this claim. How many diabetics participated in your experiment?
How many control subjects were involved? When and where did
you conduct this experiment? How did you analyze any biological
samples taken from your subjects? Who reviewed your work?
Who funded your work? Where were your results published?
Try to answer in twenty-five delusions or less, Fuckwit.
Quote: THAT kind of evidence is just too easy for some REAL stupid people
there .. william ..
You try calling me willie, billie and willie boy, and you finally
settle
on William? Fuckwit, William is my name. You can't insult someone
by calling him by his name. You are so incompetent, you aren't even
good at trolling.
Quote: Actually as a Health Research Analyst .. I .. **have** posted
"original" .. research .
You aren't an analyst, TeamTosser, but you should see one.
As for your "research," I know where you got every word of it:
http://maycontainnuts.me.uk/treknobabble/default.htm
It sounds just like you, Fuckwit.
--Bill Thompson |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:50 am |
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On May 18, 11:16 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:What
you are doing is trying to explain to me (and everyone else in usenet)
why we should take your views seriously. <<
Onus ..
BE .. the word ..
MY .. thread ..
The onus is upon YOU .. boy ..
I told you to stay off my threads .. and stfu ..
WHY should they NOT .. read a medical study out of Medline ..
THAT is the onus ..
YOU fail to adhere to the word ..
You act like a btch ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:f83cdf44-84df-4205-87f2-a69ad128a2f6 at (no spam) s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On May 18, 1:46 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking
Why am I even doing talking to a jrkff like .. you .. to begin
with ..
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What you are doing is trying to explain to me (and everyone else in usenet)
why we should take your views seriously.
If you can't do that....... ? |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:39 am |
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On May 19, 10:05 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:As you
have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
The internet is governed by rules ..
Therefore .. as I said ..
YOU explain what you are doing on a thread ..
NOT .. **me** explaining what I'm doing on .. **my** .. thread ..
You see how that works ..
YOU 'address' the medical study.
That's .. **it** ..
YOU don't address .. ME ..
Understand .. ?
You see how that works .. ?
Do I really fkg care whether YOU believe me or not .. ?
You PROVE the study / article / me .. wrong.
You don't call me names or act inappropriately to me .. a fkg ..
tall ..
Onus ..
BE .. the word ..
MY .. thread ..
The onus is upon YOU .. boy ..
I told you to stay off my threads .. and stfu ..
WHY should they NOT .. read a medical study out of Medline ..
THAT is the onus ..
YOU fail to adhere to the word ..
You act like a btch ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:fe0e952e-c852-43a7-adbb-bf1b28633bc4 at (no spam) i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 18, 11:16 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:What
you are doing is trying to explain to me (and everyone else in usenet)
why we should take your views seriously.
Onus ..
BE .. the word ..
MY .. thread ..
The onus is upon YOU .. boy ..
I told you to stay off my threads .. and stfu ..
WHY should they NOT .. read a medical study out of Medline ..
THAT is the onus ..
YOU fail to adhere to the word ..
You act like a btch ..
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As you have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
usenet, and anyone and everyone is free to post to them with relevant
discussion.
Why are you so keen to silence me?
Just answer a few simple questions, that's all I'm asking.
This thread is about your qualifications and suitability to have your
opinions taken seriously. So far you have been evasive at best. And you are
successfully proving my hypothesis that your opinions aren't worthy of
consideration.
You might not like that statement. I don't for one minute expect that you
do.
But you have the power to make yourself be taken seriously. Why don't you
use it? |
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| Manky Badger... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:05 pm |
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<ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:fe0e952e-c852-43a7-adbb-bf1b28633bc4 at (no spam) i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 18, 11:16 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:What
you are doing is trying to explain to me (and everyone else in usenet)
why we should take your views seriously. <<
Onus ..
BE .. the word ..
MY .. thread ..
The onus is upon YOU .. boy ..
I told you to stay off my threads .. and stfu ..
WHY should they NOT .. read a medical study out of Medline ..
THAT is the onus ..
YOU fail to adhere to the word ..
You act like a btch ..
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As you have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
usenet, and anyone and everyone is free to post to them with relevant
discussion.
Why are you so keen to silence me?
Just answer a few simple questions, that's all I'm asking.
This thread is about your qualifications and suitability to have your
opinions taken seriously. So far you have been evasive at best. And you are
successfully proving my hypothesis that your opinions aren't worthy of
consideration.
You might not like that statement. I don't for one minute expect that you
do.
But you have the power to make yourself be taken seriously. Why don't you
use it? |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:10 pm |
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On May 19, 2:22 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:They
take it.
They get better >>
Every hear of radioactive phosphorous ..
They must be missing radioactive phosphorous ..
Yep ..
Iron and radioactive phosphorous ..
You are really good ..
You should look to see if maybe there is anything else missing ..
Maybe see if they are more like .. you .. personally LIKE you .. ?
Check for cojones ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:b0d7463b-acf1-432c-af31-d8a7430fd251 at (no spam) 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On May 19, 10:05 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:As you
have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
usenet,
The internet is governed by rules ..
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Since when did usenet have rules?
Oh Tom...........
Someone is ill.
I deduce they are iron deficient.
I recommend ferrous sulphate
It is prescribed.
They take it.
They get better.
Happens so many times, every day.
Your theory sinks beyond trace.
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| Manky Badger... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:22 pm |
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<ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:b0d7463b-acf1-432c-af31-d8a7430fd251 at (no spam) 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On May 19, 10:05 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:As you
have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
The internet is governed by rules ..
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Since when did usenet have rules?
Oh Tom...........
Someone is ill.
I deduce they are iron deficient.
I recommend ferrous sulphate
It is prescribed.
They take it.
They get better.
Happens so many times, every day.
Your theory sinks beyond trace.
QED |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:22 pm |
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On May 19, 6:41 pm, Mŕck©® <I... at (no spam) OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote:the
nutter is literally a whacko.<<
What's .. that .. smell ..
Is that .. urine .. ?
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:05:27 +0100, "Manky Badger"
you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:
Manky Badger,
Why are you and the others wasting your time arguing with Tom aka
ironschizoprenicobssesivecompulsivenutball?
the nutter is literally a whacko. |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:53 pm |
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On May 19, 5:10 pm, "ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com" <ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Iron and Radioactive phosphorus <<
"Bloodletting Replaces Radioactive Phosphorus"
"Bloodletting cures anemia."
Bloodletting Replaces Radioactive Phosphorus
Treatment-Traditional treatment using the marrow suppressant effect
of
radioactive phosphorus (32P) has been largely superseded because of
the additional risk of inducing malignancies such as acute leukaemia
in later life. Repeated venesection to maintain the packed cell
volume at < 0.45 has become the mainstay of treatment.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/314/7080/587
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"Phlebotomy is consistently effective"
"43 remissions (in 43 patients)"
Acta Derm Venereol Suppl (Stockh). 1982;100:107-18. Links
Phlebotomy treatment of porphyria cutanea tarda.
Lundvall O.
The effect of phlebotomy on 44 patients (33 men and 11 women) with
porphyria cutanea tarda (PCT) is described.
All had typical biochemical and clinical signs of PCT.
The patients were bled until slight anemia and signs of iron
deficiency.
In patients who were bled frequently and who were not given iron
supplements in conjunction with phlebotomy, urinary uroporphyrin
excretion decreased to 1 mg (or 1.2 mumol) a day or less in 1-8 months
(mean 4 months) and then continued
to decrease long after the treatment had been stopped and became
normal in many patients.
A decrease in porphyrin excretion comparable to that in patients
treated with phlebotomy occurred in only two out of 12 controls.
Remission occurred in patients treated with phlebotomy who had iron
overload as well as in patients with quantitatively normal iron stores
and in patients abstaining from alcohol as well as in patients who
continued their abuse of alcohol.
The disappearance of skin fragility and ulcers coincided roughly with
the time when the urinary excretion of uroporphyrin decreased to about
1 mg (1.2 mumol)
a day.
After 43 remissions (in 43 patients) not followed by iron medication,
one relapse occurred after a period of 20 months.
In 5 patients in whom their iron stores were replenished a relapse
occurred
in all within 18 months.
After longer observation periods relapses occurred also after
remissions not followed by iron medication.
During observation periods of 3-10 years 15 out of 41 patients
relapsed
biochemically.
These had re-accumulated iron stores spontaneously.
The results indicate that phlebotomy is consistently effective and
probably exerts its effect mainly by reduction of iron stores.
PMID: 6962627 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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What radioactive phosphorous is
How you have it
Possible side effects
More information about radioactive phosphorous
What radioactive phosphorous is
Radioactive phosphorous is a radioactive form of the metal
phosphorous. It can be used as a treatment for some blood disorders,
including one called polycythaemia rubra vera (PCRV). Polycythaemia
rubra vera means that your bone marrow makes too many red blood
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You will be temporarily radioactive after the injection but this is
not a hazard to anyone else because it is such a small dose and the
radioactivity has such a short range. Treatment with radioactive
phosphorus over many years can cause leukaemia.
More information about radioactive phosphorous
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Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: On May 19, 2:22 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:They
take it.
They get better
Every hear of radioactive phosphorous ..
They must be missing radioactive phosphorous ..
Yep ..
Iron and radioactive phosphorous ..
You are really good ..
You should look to see if maybe there is anything else missing ..
Maybe see if they are more like .. you .. personally LIKE you .. ?
Check for cojones ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:b0d7463b-acf1-432c-af31-d8a7430fd251 at (no spam) 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On May 19, 10:05 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:As you
have been told countless times before, you do not own any threads in
usenet,
The internet is governed by rules ..
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Since when did usenet have rules?
Oh Tom...........
Someone is ill.
I deduce they are iron deficient.
I recommend ferrous sulphate
It is prescribed.
They take it.
They get better.
Happens so many times, every day.
Your theory sinks beyond trace.
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| Mŕck©®... |
| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:41 pm |
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:05:27 +0100, "Manky Badger"
<you.must at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:
Manky Badger,
Why are you and the others wasting your time arguing with Tom aka
ironschizoprenicobssesivecompulsivenutball?
the nutter is literally a whacko. |
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| ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:17 am |
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On May 18, 9:08 pm, "wrtho... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com" <wrthomp... at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:From the unplumbed depth of his ignorance,
the Ferrous Fuckwit <teamtos... at (no spam) hotmail.com> raved: Every diabetic is
iron overloaded sez .. **me** ..
Describe the experimental technique you used to support
this claim.
Health Research Analysis .. do I have to describe how its .. done .. ?
First you get yourself a big pot of coffee .. sometimes that is at a
premium .. then you get yourself access to reading material .. any
reading material pertaining even somewhat to what you are going to
research.
Then you .. ?
Read and read and read and read and read ..
You kinda get the idea I bet ..
Then you try to figure out how you are going to .. eat ..
That should probably have been your first .. move .. but ..
sometimes ..
Here is an example ..
http://tinyurl.com/688c9d
Coincidentally it speaks to .. diabetes.
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Quote: From the unplumbed depth of his ignorance,
the Ferrous Fuckwit <teamtos... at (no spam) hotmail.com> raved:
Every diabetic is iron overloaded sez .. **me** ..
Describe the experimental technique you used to support
this claim. How many diabetics participated in your experiment?
How many control subjects were involved? When and where did
you conduct this experiment? How did you analyze any biological
samples taken from your subjects? Who reviewed your work?
Who funded your work? Where were your results published?
Try to answer in twenty-five delusions or less, Fuckwit.
THAT kind of evidence is just too easy for some REAL stupid people
there .. william ..
You try calling me willie, billie and willie boy, and you finally
settle
on William? Fuckwit, William is my name. You can't insult someone
by calling him by his name. You are so incompetent, you aren't even
good at trolling.
Actually as a Health Research Analyst .. I .. **have** posted
"original" .. research .
You aren't an analyst, TeamTosser, but you should see one.
As for your "research," I know where you got every word of it:
http://maycontainnuts.me.uk/treknobabble/default.htm
It sounds just like you, Fuckwit.
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| wrthomps at (no spam) ix.netcom.com... |
| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:56 pm |
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After getting the crap kicked out of him by Manky Badger,
the Ferrous Fuckwit <netkook at (no spam) his.wits.end> decided
it was my turn to ock him again when he wrote:
Quote: "wrtho... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com" <wrthomp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
From the unplumbed depth of his ignorance,
the Ferrous Fuckwit <teamtosser at (no spam) hotmail.com> raved:
Every diabetic is iron overloaded sez .. **me** ..
Describe the experimental technique you used to support
this claim.
Health Research Analysis .. do I have to describe how its .. done .. ?
I told you to describe the experiment, Fuckwit. Try to
comprehend what you read. You have provided no evidence
to support your claim that "every diabetic is iron overloaded."
Your word is not enough. In fact you have shown your word
is worthless.
Quote: First you get yourself a big pot of coffee .. sometimes that is at a
premium .. then you get yourself access to reading material .. any
reading material pertaining even somewhat to what you are going to
research.
Then you .. ?
Read and read and read and read and read ..
You kinda get the idea I bet ..
Yes, the idea is that you do not run any scientific expertiments.
The idea is that you are a loud-mouthed egomaniac who crossposts
off-topic material to endless newsgroups. The idea is that you have
no understanding of what you read.
I'm going to be busy for the next week or so, Fuckwit, so I won't
have the time to mock you. If you want more of it before I
return, you'll just have to abuse yourself.
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| Paul T. Holland... |
| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:58 pm |
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"ironjustice at (no spam) aol.com" wrote:
Quote:
On May 19, 6:41 pm, Mŕck©® <I... at (no spam) OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote:the
nutter is literally a whacko.
What's .. that .. smell ..
Is that .. urine .. ?
well tom, you're the only one sitting in your room,
we take your word that you smell urine...which begs the question:
why did you want us to know that you have been sitting there so long
that you lost bladder control?
please, turn off that computer, get up, and clean yourself
Quote: Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:05:27 +0100, "Manky Badger"
you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:
Manky Badger,
Why are you and the others wasting your time arguing with Tom aka
ironschizoprenicobssesivecompulsivenutball?
the nutter is literally a whacko. |
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