On May 13, 10:04 pm, "nanny" <gloria... at (no spam) woh.rr.com> wrote:
So, has anyone asked him why he's hung up on iron in particular?
Hard work.
On May 13, 10:04 pm, "nanny" <gloria... at (no spam) woh.rr.com> wrote:I'll ask:
Tom, why are you obsessed with iron over any other health issue?
Years ago Linus Pauling and his work with what he believed to be very
high levels of oxidative stress/ rust / free radicals / reactive
oxygen species / lack of antioxidants.
His work was and is still accepted as very good work.
Linus Pauling was a double Nobel prize winner.
Years later I was flipping through a People magazine at my
physiotherapists office and ran across a mans' hypothesis.
His hypothesis is "the iron from meat builds progressively in the body
leading to high levels of rust / oxidative stress."
That clicked in my mind as an explanation for the high level of
oxidative stress and this clue led me into the last few years of work.
Here we are today fifteen years later and iron reduction therapy /
phlebotomy has JUST been proposed FOR literally everyone.
Just like I've been proposing.
Evidently it seems I'm right.
Using .."how do you feel" ..as a marker.
"These results justify iron depletion"
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/extract/31/3/e18
Who loves ya.
Tom
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On May 12, 3:16 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:
"Michael B" <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.
And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups.
Pathology groups? No - not really.
In spite of his one-person parade, there is some value to what he
says, for some of the readers. If a person doesn't deal well with the
iron, there can indeed be problems that are not typically attributed
to iron overload. Used to happen more when iron skillets were more
common, with metal spatulas instead of plastic.
Also, it should be considered if a person has had at least 13 blood
transfusions, not necessarily within a narrow time frame. Several
years, even, especially for men, pre and postmenopausal women.
Read what he's posted carefully. You'll find that there are well known
side
effects of massive iron overloads, like in the example of multiple blood
transfusions. There are also well know problems of iron metabolism. All of
which are quite rare in the great scheme of things.
However the Ferrous Fool utterly misunderstands what's going on, and
furthermore rejects all attempts at enlightening him. Instead he prefers
to
continue his religous crusade by posting any mention of iron onto any
seemingly random newsgroup.
I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare conditions and
it's
unhinged him somewhat.
But the part that is so annoying about him is the presentation of
iron overload as the single most relevant factor from diabetes to
end organ failure in lupus. Certainly not apologizing for him, he
is a pest at times, but sometimes he presents something of value,
even if you have to pick through a lot of shit for the piece of corn..
The only "bits of corn" I've ever found are those things which are
factually
true but posted out of context.
Manky,
RE: I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare
conditions and it's
unhinged him somewhat.
Quite honestly, I've often thought that perhaps he's the one that has
an iron condition. Perhaps that's why he has such interest.....
In any event, there has been some articles that I've enjoyed, others I
haven't. I'm positive and certain, that he can say the same about
me......
It's like watching tv or listening to music, if you don't want to
watch or hear, change the channel. In this case, don't read.....
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