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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:24 pm |
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It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:26 pm |
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On May 8, 6:24 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Does this hypersphere include space beyond the causal horizon, or not? |
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:41 am |
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On May 9, 9:37Â am, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 8, 11:16 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 8, 9:22 pm, Rushtown <Rusht... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
On May 8, 9:26�pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On May 8, 6:24 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a �beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Does this hypersphere include space beyond the causal horizon, or not?
Nothing that has or had a beginning can be infinite.
There is no outside to the 4th dimension or universe.
The future of the hypersphere is infinite.
Mitch Raemsch
The hell you say. Â What if other universes don't happen to agree with
your less than deductive analogy?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -
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Its simple other universes don't happen. There is was and always will
be only one hypersphere than becomes infinite.
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:33 pm |
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On May 8, 7:24 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
And is there an exact copy of Britainny Spears' left tit on this
surface? Why not claim that right away? |
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:36 pm |
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On May 9, 6:33 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 8, 7:24 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
And is there an exact copy of Britainny Spears' left tit on this
surface? Why not claim that right away?
Hypersphere surface is the form of the universe or the space-time
continuum. The hypersphere's inside is empty. |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:58 am |
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On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ? |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:01 am |
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On May 10, 12:58 pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
Quote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?
Hypersurface is 3D volume.
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:11 am |
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On 10 Maj, 23:01, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On May 10, 12:58 pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?
Hypersurface is 3D volume.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
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There is volume. What for hypersurface ? |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:42 am |
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On May 10, 1:11 pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
Quote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 10, 12:58 pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?
Hypersurface is 3D volume.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -
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I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:59 am |
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On 10 Maj, 23:42, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On May 10, 1:11Â pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:01, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 10, 12:58Â pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a  beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?
Hypersurface is 3D volume.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
- Pokaż cytowany tekst -
Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume
It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere |
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:45 pm |
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On May 10, 1:59Â pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
Quote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 10, 1:11Â pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:01, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
On May 10, 12:58Â pm, Enes <pies_na_teo... at (no spam) gazeta.pl> wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, mitch.nicolas.raem... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a  beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.
Mitch Raemsch
Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.
But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,
And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?
Hypersurface is 3D volume.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -
There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.
Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -
- Pokaż cytowany tekst -
Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume
It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Circle the hypersphere! |
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