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| hanson... |
 Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:11 am |
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Stinkliar "Bruce Sinclair"
<bruce.sinclair at (no spam) NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz>
wrote in message news:fvoqfj$pql$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...
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"mrbawana2u" <mrbawana2u at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
And yet 387.19 ppmv is still insignificant.
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"VD-for-Vendicar" aka Scott Nudds nuddled:
Significant to cause a temperature rise of 1.3'C
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Brused Stinkliar farted:
To anyone interested in this 'debate' (I haven't seen much here  ), I
suggest you get and read the summary of the stern report. He states his
assumptions and details his data. He is also an economist, and, using the
precautionary principle (as you should if the consequences could be
disasterous), suggests that if we do something now, it costs us almost
nothing (a small decrease in growth). If we wait 20 years, and there is a
problem, it will cost us heaps.
Stinkliar and VD-Scotty deserve each other as 2 brethren of
the same feather, both being class 3 enviros aka little green
idiots who feel doom with every breath they take... ahahaha...
because they do not want to accept that GW- & especially all
AGW data are based on the edicts of green bible which was
written by their role models and icons who said that:
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= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true. -- Paul Watson, Sea Shepard/ex-Greenpeace, &...
= "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
= accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
= "If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then .... make it
= up on the spot ... for the mass-media today ... the truth is irrelevant."
= -- Paul Watson in Earthforce: An Earth Warrior's Guide to Strategy.
= "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
= mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
= -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
= a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
= "It is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presen-
= tations" -- Al Gore, Chairman, Gen. Investment Management Bank
user fees, operating burdens, enviro-levies, recycling add-ons,
which are nothing but taxes by another name that did produce
nothing but filling the wallets of the regulatory green shits....
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(...but not the wallets of the little green idiots we see in these
NGs. They are merely the unpaid and unrewarded enablers
and facilitators for the eviro turds who rake in the dough)
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Needless to say industries reacted, learned from the green
bible and went "green" too... by inflating and passing on to
the consumers all these green burdens... and used the green
hammering to get rid local employees... by out-sourcing their
production into India and China... ahahahaha....
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So, with the green pestilence having infected & badly affected
the entire industrial base in the US... ....Guys, it will be a long
and hard way to come back to the good living standard we did
enjoy before the green thievery began... ... and produced this
ever growing chasm between the Rich and the Poor...
hanson
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More in these links on rice-rationing & the Green cascade (1,2,3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ebc7cbaf0bc86342
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/f56a295a28d506f2
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See, you 2 fools. You fucked yourself. Now you know why you are
so poor. ahahaha... ahahahanson |
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:14 pm |
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> cranked himself and
weaseled & wrote in message news:4820D248.2040204 at (no spam) adnc.com...
news:904f7e00-5a66-4b56-83cb-b718f0d3df73 at (no spam) z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Quote: CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High
hanson wrote:
That only seems to you to be this way, Roger.
All that data you cut and pasted is useless since it is...
"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com
If you have better data on atmospheric CO2 concentrations,
you are more than welcome to post them here, otherwise
don't expect us to adopt your fantasies without evidence.
hanson wrote:
You may be getting on the right track by finally admitting that
YOUR icons and role models made you promote "fantasies
without evidence"... I'll take notice of your manufactured temp.
increases once they constantly exceed the local and global
differences between the day vs nite extremes which is some-
where in the wide range of 40-120°F which humankind is
used to effortlessly and without curtailing its activities.....
ahahahaha....
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Till then know, Roger and all you other little green idiots, that
you have fallen victim to a con and that you are promoting a
scam like the world not seen since they invented the bible.
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Here again is what you base your silly doom & gloom on which
you carefully snipped to avoid embassarssment.
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It said: GW- & especially all AGW data are based on the edicts
of green bible which was written by the role models and icons
of the green shits who said that:
Quote:
= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true. -- Paul Watson, Sea Shepard/ex-Greenpeace, &...
= "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
= accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
= "If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then .... make it
= up on the spot ... for the mass-media today ... the truth is irrelevant."
= -- Paul Watson in Earthforce: An Earth Warrior's Guide to Strategy.
= "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
= mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
= -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
= a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
= "It is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presen-
= tations" -- Al Gore, Chairman, Gen. Investment Management Bank
user fees, operating burdens, enviro-levies, recycling add-ons,
which are nothing but taxes by another name that did produce
nothing but filling the wallets of the regulatory green shits....
Quote:
(...but not the wallets of the little green idiots we see in these
NGs. They are merely the unpaid and unrewarded enablers
and facilitators for the eviro turds who rake in the dough)
Quote:
Needless to say industries reacted, learned from the green
bible and went "green" too... by inflating and passing on to
the consumers all these green burdens... and used the green
hammering to get rid local employees... by out-sourcing their
production into India and China... ahahahaha....
Quote:
So, with the green pestilence having infected & badly affected
the entire industrial base in the US... ....Guys, it will be a long
and hard way to come back to the good living standard we did
enjoy before the green thievery began... ... and produced this
ever growing chasm between the Rich and the Poor...
hanson
Quote:
More in these links on rice-rationing & the Green cascade (1,2,3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ebc7cbaf0bc86342
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/f56a295a28d506f2
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See, you fool. You fucked yourself. Now you know why you are
so poor. ahahaha... ahahahanson |
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| V-for-Vendicar... |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:17 pm |
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"00ZBN" <00ZBN at (no spam) ddooo.com> wrote
Quote: And no discernible effect on global climate!!!!!!!!
Really? Here is the data....
View with mono spaced font.
Correlation between Atmospheric CO2 concentration and
Global Average temperature. 1958 -> 2007
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| V-for-Vendicar... |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:29 pm |
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock at (no spam) adnc.com> wrote
Quote: http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg
That is an exceptionally good fit.
250.67 + 53.887 * exp(0.01684*(year-1958)) = smoothed signal.
Subtracting the sinusoidal component from the raw data to smooth it, how
does the result compare with the global emissions history?
By eye, it looks like variance in the data from the smoothed function
correspond roughly to
various economic periods. 60's economic boom followed by a 70's economic
slump, followed by the 80's economic boom, followed by the 90's economic
slump that continues in AmeriKKKa to today But with the chinese economy
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| V-for-Vendicar... |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:37 pm |
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"Peter Franks" <none at (no spam) none.com> wrote
Quote: Do you dispute the basis that the Maunder Minimum was in part a cause of
the Little Ice Age?
Unknown. We do know that there is no correlation between sunspot counts
and global surface
temperature over the last several decades.
The data below shows a complete lack of correlation.
View with mono spaced font.
No correlation between sunspot number and global average temperature
1958 -> 2007
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* = Data
0 = Computed Regression
Y = Mx+B
M = 4.976998E-05 B = 14.18044
Correlation Coefficient .01161709 |
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| V-for-Vendicar... |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:40 pm |
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"00ZBN" <00ZBN at (no spam) ddooo.com> wrote
Quote: And no discernible effect on global climate!!!!!!!!
Coppcock you are totally hilarious!
Really? You must be living in an alternate universe.
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******************o***************
1959 14.06 ********************o************
1960 13.99 *********************o******
1961 14.08 **********************o************
1962 14.04 ***********************o********
1963 14.08 ************************o**********
1964 13.79 **************===========o
1965 13.89 *********************====o
1966 13.97 **************************o
1967 14.00 ***************************o*
1968 13.96 **************************==o
1969 14.08 *****************************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************************o
1971 13.90 **********************=========o
1972 14.00 *****************************===o
1973 14.14 ********************************o******
1974 13.92 ***********************==========o
1975 13.95 *************************=========o
1976 13.84 ******************=================o
1977 14.13 ************************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************************============o
1993 14.14 ***************************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************************o**
1998 14.57
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1999 14.33 ****************************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************************o*****
2002 14.56
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2003 14.55
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2004 14.49 ************************************************************o**
2005 14.62
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2006 14.54
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2007 14.57
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Correlation Coefficient .8529209
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| V-for-Vendicar... |
| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:42 pm |
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"00ZBN" <00ZBN at (no spam) ddooo.com> wrote
Quote: And no discernible effect on global climate!!!!!!!!
Coppcock you are totally hilarious!
Bonzo doesn't live in the Reality based community.....
Here is the data showing him to be a liar.
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******************o***************
1959 14.06 ********************o************
1960 13.99 *********************o******
1961 14.08 **********************o************
1962 14.04 ***********************o********
1963 14.08 ************************o**********
1964 13.79 **************===========o
1965 13.89 *********************====o
1966 13.97 **************************o
1967 14.00 ***************************o*
1968 13.96 **************************==o
1969 14.08 *****************************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************************o
1971 13.90 **********************=========o
1972 14.00 *****************************===o
1973 14.14 ********************************o******
1974 13.92 ***********************==========o
1975 13.95 *************************=========o
1976 13.84 ******************=================o
1977 14.13 ************************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************************============o
1993 14.14 ***************************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************************o**
1998 14.57
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1999 14.33 ****************************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************************o*****
2002 14.56
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2003 14.55
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2004 14.49 ************************************************************o**
2005 14.62
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2006 14.54
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2007 14.57
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Correlation Coefficient .8529209
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