No, we don't "have to go through it." It's part of the game that humans
invented to put these animals through, and betting, etc. only fuels the
flames. Shame on anyone who supports this bullshit. Horse racing, dog
racing, whatever. These people should be shot on site, or at least they
should be made to go through what the horses or dogs have to go through.
I am so upset right now.

Marsha <mas at (no spam) xeb.net> wrote in news:fvlrbm$d6r$1 at (no spam) news.datemas.de:


No, we don't "have to go through it." It's part of the game that humans
invented to put these animals through, and betting, etc. only fuels the
flames. Shame on anyone who supports this bullshit. Horse racing, dog
racing, whatever. These people should be shot on site, or at least they
should be made to go through what the horses or dogs have to go through.
I am so upset right now.


If you ask me, it's no different than boxing, extreme cage fighting,
greyhound racing, etc. I do, however, think it is extreme to say that
those people should be shot on site or go through what horses or dogs have
to go through. Yes, it is tragic what happened. Yes, I am a horse lover
beyond comparison. No, I don't believe people who participate or support
it should be shot on site.

Other than that....Did you happen to see the Derby?

This absolutely disgusts me:

http://tinyurl.com/64adc3

Especially this part:

"Dutrow was still basking in Big Brown’s victory, well aware that an
injury can strike at any time.

“No matter what happens, you’re always going to see horses break down on
the track,” he said. “That is part of this game. It’s a very sad part of
the game, but you have to go through it."

No, we don't "have to go through it." It's part of the game that humans
invented to put these animals through, and betting, etc. only fuels the
flames. Shame on anyone who supports this bullshit. Horse racing, dog
racing, whatever. These people should be shot on site, or at least they
should be made to go through what the horses or dogs have to go through. I
am so upset right now.

Marsha/Ohio

I agree that the difference is . . . who gets to make the decision. Race
car drivers choose to race. Boxers choose to box. Ball players choose to
play ball. Horses don't choose to race, dogs and cocks don't choose to
fight. Every horse breeder knows that a thoroughbred's legs are too
slender to stay strong forever, and most injuries are to the horses legs.
If the horse knew I wonder if he/she would still want to race. I don't
believe Eight Bells enjoyed racing; I do believe she enjoyed the attention
and love she received from the people who raced her. Big difference to my
mind.

"Marsha" <mas at (no spam) xeb.net> wrote in message
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Apples to oranges. Boxing and cage fighting are voluntary by both
participants. If two people want to beat each other to death, fine by
me. Horses and dogs for racing are used as pawns by humans for sport and
money. Eight Belles had no idea she was going to break both her front
legs and be put to death, after she was whipped by her jockey to go
faster. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

BTW, I never watch horse racing. I don't enjoy seeing animals beat for
human enrichment.

Marsha/Ohio

So my question is why do the race officials even allow
them to run?

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying that this PETA bullchit
is a bit over the top.

PS the shame is they are saying that this filly didn't have great
breeding for soundness. The winner has such bad feet they are partly
glued together. So my question is why do the race officials even allow
them to run? That's part of the problem right there. He won, so now he
is going to run two more demanding races within a few short period of
time, one of which, IIRC, the Belmont, is a longer race.


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If the horse knew I wonder if he/she
would still want to race.

As you stated above, many race care drives choose to race, boxers choose
to bix, ball players choose to play ball, etc. I believe they all know
the risks.

I don't believe Eight Bells enjoyed racing;
I do believe she enjoyed the attention and love she received from the
people who raced her. Big difference to my mind.

How much attention did she get from those who raced her? I haven't heard
that angle of the story yet.

I don't believe it's about the money. If I had a million-dollar race
horse, there is no way I would risk that horse in a race.

Also, from my (kind of limited) point of view, just looking at it from
the eventing/hunter/jumper view:

When it was time for Robin to move up and find a horse, we tried
several. I was very proud because I could spend $2500 on a horse. Pah!
CHicken feed. I was the most pitied creature in Kentucky (we were at a
national show there). By the time I got to $2000, I had vetted and tried
two horses and they didn't pass the soundness examination. I bought Jane
as a huge "bargain" at 4x my "budget" because her owner was going to
college, and because I knew she was sound (she'd been shown from our
barn for two years). They are vetted, vetted, x-rayed, vetted again, eye
examination, x-rays of feet and legs, shoes on and off, it was a huge
ordeal.

I don't know why that filly was out there, but I feel 100% positive
they didn't think there was anything wrong with her that would cause the
accident that happened. No way.

"
PS the shame is they are saying that this filly didn't have great
breeding for soundness. The winner has such bad feet they are partly
glued together. So my question is why do the race officials even allow
them to run? That's part of the problem right there. He won, so now he
is going to run two more demanding races within a few short period of
time, one of which, IIRC, the Belmont, is a longer race. "


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