What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? �

On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), Rushtown <Rushtown@aol.com
wrote:
OK, only one more. A few times when I have given someone a refund
they have asked me to give them a reciept too.

Yes, they requested both the refund and some form of written
confirmation that the amount that they received was the correct amount
and that they were authorized to receive this amount. Sounds like a
high IQ person who has dealt with a lawyer before and knows that it is
always best to "get it in writing".

Rushtown wrote:

[life below the line]

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are.
It is to illustrate what it must be like going through life with
even a slightly below average IQ. �You don't know why things are
done---but you do know they are done in a certain way on certain
occasions so you feel you should insist that they be done that way
again. �Exactly how the world works is a mystery to you---so such a
person must feel they are in a sort of magical existence where just
saying certain words and doing certain rituals causes
results. �Like the Cargo Cults in New Guinea.
People who talk about seeing the "Black Helicopters" or how the
Government invented AIDS have this sort of existence.

Ah, topicality. �White shepherd, black sheep. �Pastor and buffoon in
one package, wiggling its wagplace behind it.

On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), Rushtown <Rusht...@aol.com
wrote:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? �Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom. �Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one. �When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

As I read the above, when you did it again (preparing the two
documents), you prepared only one of them correctly. �


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office.

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are.

It is to illustrate what it must be like going through life with
even a slightly below average IQ. You don't know why things are
done---but you do know they are done in a certain way on certain
occasions so you feel you should insist that they be done that way
again. Exactly how the world works is a mystery to you---so such a
person must feel they are in a sort of magical existence where just
saying certain words and doing certain rituals causes
results. Like the Cargo Cults in New Guinea.

People who talk about seeing the "Black Helicopters" or how the
Government invented AIDS have this sort of existence.

On Sat, 3 May 2008 20:47:50 -0700 (PDT), Rushtown <Rusht...@aol.com
wrote:





On May 3, 6:37?pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), Rushtown <Rusht...@aol.com
wrote:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? ?Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom. ?Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one. ?When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

As I read the above, when you did it again (preparing the two
documents), you prepared only one of them correctly. ?

There's a comma after "correctly" making the meaning clear, as it was
to you.

Sorry, but the comma doesn't do it. �



Is "I explained literally ten times..." different from "I explained
ten times..."?

Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office.

What form of English is this?

It's English missing a semicolon.

"Literally ten times" means I am not exaggerating---it really really
was ten times."

You took the trouble to count the repetitions, but you were unwilling
to either prepare a document to satisfy the client or to rephrase the
explanation in order for the client to understand. �Whose IQ should be
questioned here?

Maybe I should retitle this post "What it's like going through life
being a knee jerk martinette who can't stop feeding this troll." �But
thanks, outraged or pained responses are what we live on.

When you do, spell "martinet" correctly. �Unless, of course, you are
referring to a wooden figure of Jean Martinet attached by strings to a
control bar operated by a puppeteer who makes the knees jerk.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text -

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What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom. Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one. When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

The client said he wanted "two documents" because that is what he got
before. I explained literally ten times why only one was needed this
time.

Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office.

More attempts to explain---to no
avail. He had to have two documents which we eventually gave to him.

Another example. I told a secretary to "Cancel all appointments next
week I am going on a trip." The next day I said, "Plans are changed,
I will be here next week." I found out that she kept cancelling
appointments after I'd told her I'd be in the office. When I asked
why she said, "Because you told me to."

And yet another one. Somehow some street bum got a hold of a filing
fee check from my office. I had signed it.
He crossed out "Court Clerk" and wrote in his name. He then came into
my office to cash it. Of course I told him "no". He was perplexed
and asked if I had signed it? "Yes". And wasn't that his name on it?,
"yes"---Then why wouldn't I cash it?

OK, only one more. A few times when I have given someone a refund
they have asked me to give them a reciept too.

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are

On May 3, 7:00?pm, Rushtown <Rusht...@aol.com> axed a direct question:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? ?

I don't know about the other readers of this group, but for me it
ain't easy. Good think that once in a while a genious like yerself
takes his mision to enlinghten and educate seriously.

Arcadian Rises wrote:
Rushtown axed a direct question:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? ?

I don't know about the other readers of this group, but for me it
ain't easy. Good think that once in a while a genious like yerself
takes his mision to enlinghten and educate seriously.

Rushtown has been bouncing around Usenet for years demonstrating that
his mission is to prove that you don't have to be smarter than a
street bum to pass the bar in - I think it is - (the state of)
Washington.

tony cooper wrote:
Arcadian Rises wrote:
Rushtown axed a direct question:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? ?

I don't know about the other readers of this group, but for me it
ain't easy. Good think that once in a while a genious like yerself
takes his mision to enlinghten and educate seriously.

Rushtown has been bouncing around Usenet for years demonstrating that
his mission is to prove that you don't have to be smarter than a
street bum to pass the bar in - I think it is - (the state of)
Washington.

Naah, Andrew is in L.A.

On May 3, 6:37?pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 3 May 2008 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), Rushtown <Rusht...@aol.com
wrote:

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? ?Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom. ?Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one. ?When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

As I read the above, when you did it again (preparing the two
documents), you prepared only one of them correctly. ?


There's a comma after "correctly" making the meaning clear, as it was
to you.

Is "I explained literally ten times..." different from "I explained
ten times..."?

Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office.

What form of English is this?

It's English missing a semicolon.

"Literally ten times" means I am not exaggerating---it really really
was ten times."

Maybe I should retitle this post "What it's like going through life
being a knee jerk martinette who can't stop feeding this troll." But
thanks, outraged or pained responses are what we live on.

What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ?  Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom.  Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one.  When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

The client said he wanted "two documents" because that is what he got
before.  I explained literally ten times why only one was needed this
time.  Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office.  More attempts to explain---to no
avail. He had to have two documents which we eventually gave to him.

Another example.  I told a secretary to "Cancel all appointments next
week I am going on a trip."   The next day I said, "Plans are changed,
I will be here next week."  I found out that she kept cancelling
appointments after I'd told her I'd be in the office.  When I asked
why she said, "Because you told me to."

And yet another one. Somehow some street bum got a hold of a filing
fee check from my office.  I had signed it.
He crossed out "Court Clerk" and wrote in his name.  He then came into
my office to cash it.  Of course I told him "no".  He was perplexed
and asked if I had signed it? "Yes". And wasn't that his name on it?,
"yes"---Then why wouldn't I cash it?

OK, only one more.  A few times when I have given someone a refund
they have asked me to give them a reciept too.

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are.

It is to illustrate what it must be like going through life with even
a slightly below average IQ.  You don't know why things are done---but
you do know they are done in a certain way on certain occasions so you
feel you should insist that they be done that way again.  Exactly how
the world works is a mystery to you---so such a person must feel they
are in a sort of magical existence where just saying certain words and
doing certain rituals causes
results.  Like the Cargo Cults in New Guinea.

People who talk about seeing the "Black Helicopters" or how the
Government invented AIDS have this sort of existence.

Rushtown wrote:
On May 3, 4:18?pm, "CDB" <bellema... at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:
Rushtown wrote:

[life below the line]

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are.
It is to illustrate what it must be like going through life with
even a slightly below average IQ. ?You don't know why things are
done---but you do know they are done in a certain way on certain
occasions so you feel you should insist that they be done that way
again. ?Exactly how the world works is a mystery to you---so such
a person must feel they are in a sort of magical existence where
just saying certain words and doing certain rituals causes
results. ?Like the Cargo Cults in New Guinea.
People who talk about seeing the "Black Helicopters" or how the
Government invented AIDS have this sort of existence.

Ah, topicality. ?White shepherd, black sheep. ?Pastor and buffoon
in one package, wiggling its wagplace behind it.

Whatever it is you said here, I guess you really got me, your the
wise sophisticate and I am the foolish poster.

A gentleman susceptible of being described as I did, who claims to
believe about AIDS what you said, has been in the news lately.

I am far more callous than sophisticated, and I don't think your head
is a bit tiny. �Aren't you the one I heard about, with a verbal IQ the
size of a planet? �I sense irony in your response, and something
almost like sadistic anticipation.

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On May 4, 4:00�am, Rushtown <Rusht... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





What is it like to go through life with an 85 IQ? �Based on some
examples I think it is not perplexing or frustrating---but that
instead the world looks like
a magical kingdom. �Examples:

I once prepared a motion for a client that had to be two documents---
the second one was needed to correct an erroneous notice in the first
one. �When we had to do it again I only prepared one document,
correctly.

The client said he wanted "two documents" because that is what he got
before. �I explained literally ten times why only one was needed this
time. �Despite that he complained to the State Bar, he complained to
various people working in my office. �More attempts to explain---to no
avail. He had to have two documents which we eventually gave to him.

Another example. �I told a secretary to "Cancel all appointments next
week I am going on a trip." � The next day I said, "Plans are changed,
I will be here next week." �I found out that she kept cancelling
appointments after I'd told her I'd be in the office. �When I asked
why she said, "Because you told me to."

And yet another one. Somehow some street bum got a hold of a filing
fee check from my office. �I had signed it.
He crossed out "Court Clerk" and wrote in his name. �He then came into
my office to cash it. �Of course I told him "no". �He was perplexed
and asked if I had signed it? "Yes". And wasn't that his name on it?,
"yes"---Then why wouldn't I cash it?

OK, only one more. �A few times when I have given someone a refund
they have asked me to give them a reciept too.

This post isn't just to say how stupid some people are.

It is to illustrate what it must be like going through life with even
a slightly below average IQ. �You don't know why things are done---but
you do know they are done in a certain way on certain occasions so you
feel you should insist that they be done that way again. �Exactly how
the world works is a mystery to you---so such a person must feel they
are in a sort of magical existence where just saying certain words and
doing certain rituals causes
results. �Like the Cargo Cults in New Guinea.

People who talk about seeing the "Black Helicopters" or how the
Government invented AIDS have this sort of existence.

I.Q has nothing to do with it. An I.Q test measures, not intelligence,
but only what I call -- and what was generally called -- cleverness.
That's mental agility, the ability to multitask, analyse *complex*
data and so on. Intelligence which consists of the ability to
*understand* stuff and solve *complicated* problems and to get(really
get) poetry is, I'm convinced, qualitatively different. Intelligence
is about instinct which enables a person to feel and understand what
others merely know; that combined with a certain temperament, above
all a certain inexorable confidence in one's instincts, not that they
will never lead one wrong but that they are always valuable and always
to be explored. An intelligent person is also marked by his/her
ability to develop impersonal interests, i.e an interest in subjects
having nothing to do with him/her personally. There is an old adage
that cleverness is serviceable for everything, sufficient for nothing.
They were thinking of intelligence when they made that up.
Intelligence has always been rare and almost never found in Mensa for
instance. Its occurrence in ordinary people has, I'm convinced, dipped
sharply after the war. The sort of stupidity you mention is more
commonplace than we let on(Ever watch a sports interview?) and I.Q has
nothing to do with it. I've seen extraordinarily stupid clever people.
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