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On Mon, 5 May 2008 18:46:45 -0400, "Amatus Cremona"
<Nicola at (no spam) sottovocce.com> wrote:
Quote: And, to someone who plays without frets, the limitations, on tone, with
frets seems constrictive. When playing a piece with accidentals mixed in,
it is common to exaggerate the sharp or the flat so as to increase the
difference between the tones. We might place the finger a quarter step
further away from the key signature note to make the accidental stand out
more. With my fat finger tips, this often means just tipping the finger
slightly.
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Amatus
Due to the nature of my jumbo frets, can do this by exerting more
finger pressure or slighly bending the note.
The string doesn't have to contact the fingerboard on a fretted
instrument and in my particular case (heavy strings, high action)
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:53 pm |
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On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:36:41 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldmung at (no spam) dentaltwins.com> wrote:
Quote: Amatus Cremona wrote:
And, to someone who plays without frets, the limitations, on tone, with
frets seems constrictive.
Ya, but Newbie can bend his strings for microtonal effects. Not so
easy with nylon strings though.
Steve
True about me but, why not with nylon ?
Are natural fiber strings even made anymore ?
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When playing a piece with accidentals mixed in,
it is common to exaggerate the sharp or the flat so as to increase the
difference between the tones. We might place the finger a quarter step
further away from the key signature note to make the accidental stand out
more. With my fat finger tips, this often means just tipping the finger
slightly.
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:46 pm |
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Newbie at (no spam) bix.nex wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:36:41 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
bornfeldmung at (no spam) dentaltwins.com> wrote:
Amatus Cremona wrote:
And, to someone who plays without frets, the limitations, on tone, with
frets seems constrictive.
Ya, but Newbie can bend his strings for microtonal effects. Not so
easy with nylon strings though.
Steve
True about me but, why not with nylon ?
Are natural fiber strings even made anymore ?
Yes, gut strings are made, but they're unreliable and expensive.
There's something called "nylgut" which is supposed to have some of the
qualities of gut but is less temperamental and less expensive. I've
never used it though.
Willie Nelson bends his nylon strings, but you have to work much harder
to change the pitch. Vibrato is generally accomplished like a
violin--moving the finger back and forth with the axis of the string
rather than across the fingerboard.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:27 am |
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Gut strings are still available for violins. There is actually more being
made now than a few years ago.
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<Newbie at (no spam) bix.nex> wrote in message
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Quote: On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:36:41 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
bornfeldmung at (no spam) dentaltwins.com> wrote:
Amatus Cremona wrote:
And, to someone who plays without frets, the limitations, on tone, with
frets seems constrictive.
Ya, but Newbie can bend his strings for microtonal effects. Not so
easy with nylon strings though.
Steve
True about me but, why not with nylon ?
Are natural fiber strings even made anymore ?
When playing a piece with accidentals mixed in,
it is common to exaggerate the sharp or the flat so as to increase the
difference between the tones. We might place the finger a quarter step
further away from the key signature note to make the accidental stand
out
more. With my fat finger tips, this often means just tipping the finger
slightly.
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:30 am |
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I use a synthetic core metal wound string. It gives almost the warmth and
complexity of sound as gut, but stretches in faster and stays in tune much
better. My instrument actually stayed in tune the past 3 days without
touching the pegs. --Light rain the past few days, and my old instrument
seems to like the high humidity.
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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinmung at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Newbie at (no spam) bix.nex wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:36:41 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
bornfeldmung at (no spam) dentaltwins.com> wrote:
Amatus Cremona wrote:
And, to someone who plays without frets, the limitations, on tone, with
frets seems constrictive.
Ya, but Newbie can bend his strings for microtonal effects. Not so easy
with nylon strings though.
Steve
True about me but, why not with nylon ?
Are natural fiber strings even made anymore ?
Yes, gut strings are made, but they're unreliable and expensive. There's
something called "nylgut" which is supposed to have some of the qualities
of gut but is less temperamental and less expensive. I've never used it
though.
Willie Nelson bends his nylon strings, but you have to work much harder to
change the pitch. Vibrato is generally accomplished like a violin--moving
the finger back and forth with the axis of the string rather than across
the fingerboard.
Steve
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Amatus Cremona wrote:
Quote: I use a synthetic core metal wound string. It gives almost the warmth and
complexity of sound as gut, but stretches in faster and stays in tune much
better. My instrument actually stayed in tune the past 3 days without
touching the pegs. --Light rain the past few days, and my old instrument
seems to like the high humidity.
Your average classical string set has monofilament nylon first, second,
and third strings. The set I use comes with 2 3rd (G) strings--one in
standard nylon, one referred to as "composite". For reasons I don't
know, the third string is almost always the weakest for volume, and I
think for intonation as well. The composite is supposed to help this.
The fourth, fifth and sixth strings are metal-wound polyfilament nylon.
In steel string sets the first thru third strings are wire; the fourth
thru sixth metal wound wire core.
I believe Segovia was the one who complained about the performance of
gut strings--nylon strings were developed by Augustine, under Segovia's
direction:
http://www.albertaugustine.com/history_content.html
Steve |
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