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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

Doesn't all this disagreement and fragmentation indicate that religion is
man-made?

Now you're getting closer! Yes, religion is man made, but only under
the controlling action of a puppeteer, a real being, called satan,
"the god of this world." he has blinded the minds of them that believe
not. (Ephesians 2:1-3, 2 Corinthians 4:2, etc).

And by that "definition," Christianity is not a religion:

Here is the first section of my Christmas message, given to my
Aviation Class at Central Washington University several years ago:

*******************************

WHAT YOU DIDN'T GET FOR CHRISTMAS

PART 1

This is December, 2001. The designation is recognized almost
everywhere in the civilized world.

What do we mean, "2001?" Well, of course, that means "2001 anno
domini," or the "year of our Lord, 2001." The world's calendar, in
other words, is based on the honor of the entry into the world of a
Man known to most as "Jesus Christ."

So, when we speak of Christ, or of Christianity, we aren't talking
about a "religion." We are talking about the central fact of all
history, that the whole civilized world, whether it likes it or not,
is firmly aware of and has recognized.

And the following are not religious beliefs; they are facts from the
best ancient history records in existence . If the following are not
facts, then as Napoleon said, "history is all so much bunk:"

His coming was announced by the Hebrew prophets since the
beginning of man .

The moment of His birth was announced by angels and prophets ,
and accompanied by astronomical signs.

Thousands of hopelessly sick people came to Him, and "He healed
them all! "

He completely controlled animals, men, weather, and space and
time around Him.

He already knew, intimately, people He had never met .

He raised the dead back to life.

He claimed to be God ; and the Scriptures and the men who knew
Him agree.

He fulfilled the prophecies about the coming Messiah (that is, The
Christ) to the exact date and day of the week.

He was murdered on the exact date and day of the week specified in
the prophets.

Accompanying His murder was three hours of total darkness over all
the world, attested to by secular history, and which was lifted by
His words at the end: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani."

He returned to life on the third day, attested to by over 500
people still living 15 years afterward .

A large crowd saw Him leave the earth, alive, from a mountain top,
with the promise that He would return in the same way .

The world remembers, in spite of all the efforts made by rulers,
churches, universities, foundations, scientists, historians,
journalists, teachers, and armies, to eradicate His record through the
ages since.

A higher caliber of men than these, in general, have been the great
scientists of the sixteenth through the nineteenth centuries. Men like
Isaac Newton (the "father of classical mechanics," inventor of the
calculus, etc), Louis Pasteur, Blaise Pascal, Galileo, Robert Boyle,
Michael Faraday, Lord Kelvin, Johannes Keppler (the "father of modern
astronomy"), etc, were, even more than they were scientists, men who
believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and were therefore avid Bible
students and scholars .

********************************

Bob

Christ Died to Save You...

Doesn't all this disagreement and fragmentation indicate that religion is
man-made?

Most of the stuff you posted is nonsense.

Historians of the period didn't note anything about "jesus", and don't try
to pretend he was ignored becasue the historians were evil pagans or
whatever.

Romans were very superstitious and generally respected and adopted
features from other religions.
.

Heres' a jewish thrologian's view of jesus.

Jesus as the Messiah? by Rabbi Shraga Simmons

"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
news:4q2dnZI6S8HqlYTVnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@ptd.net...
J A wrote:

Most of the stuff you posted is nonsense.

Historians of the period didn't note anything about "jesus", and don't
try
to pretend he was ignored becasue the historians were evil pagans or
whatever.

Romans were very superstitious and generally respected and adopted
features from other religions.
.

Heres' a jewish thrologian's view of jesus.

Jesus as the Messiah? by Rabbi Shraga Simmons


To trust a rabbi enough to quote him,
you probably should believe in God.

That's stupid.

I quoted him becasue he's an expert on what his religion says about the
subject.


BTW you keep on posting this.
That's called spamming.

By the way, no it isn't, and one example of your dishonsety is how you
tamper with groups addressed.

Go away.

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:16:27 -0500, J A wrote
(in message <o4OdnUiRZv98loTVnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

By the way, no it isn't, and one example of your dishonsety is how you
tamper with groups addressed.

Go away.

Do not feed the troll

Elvis has left the building

J A wrote:

Most of the stuff you posted is nonsense.

Historians of the period didn't note anything about "jesus", and don't
try
to pretend he was ignored becasue the historians were evil pagans or
whatever.

Romans were very superstitious and generally respected and adopted
features from other religions.
.

Heres' a jewish thrologian's view of jesus.

Jesus as the Messiah? by Rabbi Shraga Simmons


To trust a rabbi enough to quote him,
you probably should believe in God.

BTW you keep on posting this.
That's called spamming.