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| Marc Verhaegen |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:13 pm |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:13 pm |
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On Apr 30, 12:13 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
Quote: http://tinyurl.com/5njdmu
In 10 million years of evolution, that's the best they can do?
They should have been out chasing kudus. |
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| Marc Verhaegen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:20 am |
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Quote: http://tinyurl.com/5njdmu
Some SF:
Quote: In 10 million years of evolution, that's the best they can do?
They should have been out chasing kudus.
:-DDD
My little boy, kudu chasers have large mouths, long canines, digitigrady, no
SC fat, can run >60 km/hr, narrow thoraxes, pronogrady etc.
Savanna Fanatics are stupid stupid stupid. |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:03 am |
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On Apr 30, 11:20 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
Still lusting after little boys, pervert?
Quote: kudu chasers have large mouths,
Wrong, wetloons have big mouths, Homo has mouths just
right for eating kudu meat.
Stupid wetlloon, who do you thing made the tools that put the cut
marks on the savanna kudu bones, lions? What an idiot you are.
Quote: digitigrady, no
SC fat,
Early Homo put the cut marks on the kudu bones, you moron.
For 100 meters, then they give up, didn't you know that wetloon?
Quote: narrow thoraxes, pronogrady etc.
BS, tools =s cutmarks =s Homo on the savanna. Got it yet?
Here is what the pros say:
National Geographic, April 2008:128
http://tinyurl.com/52ebfy
"Savanna -woodland chimps, unlike their rain forest brethern, spend
most of their waking
time on the ground searching for food and water. Fongoli's mix of
grassland, low trees,
and a hot dry season mirrors the environment that eventually propelled
early humans to hunt and use tools." |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:05 am |
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On May 1, 2:25 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
National Geographic, April 2008:128
http://tinyurl.com/52ebfy
"Savanna -woodland chimps, unlike their rain forest brethern, spend
most of their waking
time on the ground searching for food and water. Fongoli's mix of
grassland, low trees,
and a hot dry season mirrors the environment that eventually propelled
early humans to hunt and use tools."
Do you recognize the beginnings of the Savanna Theory now, wetloon? |
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| Marc Verhaegen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:25 am |
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Quote: http://tinyurl.com/5njdmu
SF:
Quote: In 10 million years of evolution, that's the best they can do?
They should have been out chasing kudus.
:-DDD
My little boy, kudu chasers have large mouths, long canines, digitigrady,
no SC fat, can run >60 km/hr, narrow thoraxes, pronogrady etc.
I forgot: they don't sweat much, have sharp claws, have higher body
temperatures, don't use tools, are not dextrous, don't need a lot iodine,
sodium, water, DHA etc.etc.etc.
Fanatics are stupid stupid stupid. |
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| Claudius Denk |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:30 am |
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On May 1, 5:03 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 30, 11:20 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
My little boy,
Still lusting after little boys, pervert?
kudu chasers have large mouths,
Wrong, wetloons have big mouths, Homo has mouths just
right for eating kudu meat.
Absurd. Lions (Sabertoothed cats) and hyena have mouths just right
for eating kudu meat.
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long canines,
Stupid wetlloon, who do you thing made the tools that put the cut
marks on the savanna kudu bones, lions? What an idiot you are.
digitigrady, no
SC fat,
Early Homo put the cut marks on the kudu bones, you moron.
can run >60 km/hr,
For 100 meters, then they give up, didn't you know that wetloon?
narrow thoraxes, pronogrady etc.
BS, tools =s cutmarks =s Homo on the savanna. Got it yet?
Here is what the pros say:
National Geographic, April 2008:128
http://tinyurl.com/52ebfy
"Savanna -woodland chimps, unlike their rain forest brethern, spend
most of their waking
time on the ground searching for food and water. Fongoli's mix of
grassland, low trees,
and a hot dry season mirrors the environment that eventually propelled
early humans to hunt and use tools." |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:39 am |
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On May 1, 8:30 am, Claudius Denk <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: Absurd. Lions (Sabertoothed cats) and hyena have mouths just right
for eating kudu meat.
No one said they didn't, burp. I think I'll have a second.... |
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| Claudius Denk |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:52 am |
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On May 1, 8:39 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 1, 8:30 am, Claudius Denk <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Absurd. Lions (Sabertoothed cats) and hyena have mouths just right
for eating kudu meat.
No one said they didn't, burp. I think I'll have a second....
Ever notice that you are always telling us what you didn't say. |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:24 am |
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On May 1, 8:52 am, Claudius Denk <claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Ever notice that you are always telling us what you didn't say.
Ever notice you have so much difficulty reading?
Like when Marc clearly said: "THE spears" and you came back with just
"spears"?
Any idiot can take something out of context and make a loon case.
While you at at the library today, sign up for a reading comp course,
I'm sure they have one. |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:55 am |
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On May 1, 11:43 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
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Olson doesn't seem to know that humans have much smaller mouths than apes.
Funny, but that didn't stop early Homo from eating kudus:
M Dominguez-Rodrigo et al.
New estimates of tooth mark and percussion mark frequencies at the FLK
Zinj site
J Hum Evol. 2005 Dec 30
"Traditional interpretations of hominid carcass acquisition strategies
revolve around the debate over whether early hominids hunted or
scavenged. A popular version of the scavenging scenario is the
carnivore-hominid-carnivore hypothesis, which argues that hominids
acquired animal resources primarily through passive opportunistic
scavenging from felid-defleshed carcasses. Its main empirical support
comes from the analysis of tooth mark frequency and distribution at
the FLK Zinj site reported by Blumenschine (Blumenschine, 1995, J.
Hum. Evol. 29, 21-51), in which it was shown that long bone mid-shafts
exhibited a high frequency of tooth marks, only explainable if felids
had preceded hominids in carcass defleshing. The present work shows
that previous estimates of tooth marks on the FLK Zinj assemblage were
artificially high, since natural biochemical marks were mistaken for
tooth marks. Revised estimates are similar to those obtained in
experiments in which hyenas intervene after humans in bone
modification. Furthermore, analyses of percussion marks, notches, and
breakage patterns provide data which are best interpreted as the
results of hominid activity (hammerstone percussion and marrow
extraction), based on experimentally-derived referential frameworks.
These multiple lines of evidence support previous analyses of cut
marks and their anatomical distribution; all indicate that hominids
had early access to fleshed carcasses that were transported,
processed, and accumulated at the FLK Zinj site."
Wetloons are stupid stupid stupid. |
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| Marc Verhaegen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:43 pm |
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Op 01-05-2008 17:30, in artikel
f080a9f3-dfe8-4e9e-9f33-a143159c58c2@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com, Claudius
Denk <claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net> schreef:
SF:
Quote: Wrong, wetloons have big mouths, Homo has mouths just
right for eating kudu meat.
Absurd. Lions (Sabertoothed cats) and hyena have mouths just right
for eating kudu meat.
Olson doesn't seem to know that humans have much smaller mouths than apes.
SFs are stupid stupid stupid. |
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| Claudius Denk |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:22 pm |
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On May 1, 4:52 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
Quote: Olson doesn't seem to know that humans have much smaller mouths than apes.
Funny, but that didn't stop early Homo from eating kudus
Yes, my little boy, very curious, and an intelligent person would (IOW, not
you) like to know how that might be: the answer is simple: because we had
been adapted to the waterside:
Collection of waterside foods (fruits & nuts, turtle & bird eggs,
shell/crayfish, water(side)plants, drowned herbivores, stranded whales etc..)
explains unique Homo traits (not seen in apes & australopiths) better than
dwelling in forests or dry plains: huge brain, slow-diving skills, breath
control, vocality, small mouth+chewing muscles, tongue bone descent, longer
airway, projecting nose, poor sense of smell, handiness & tool use, late
puberty, long legs, alined body, poor climbing, flat feet, fur loss,
fatness, profuse sweating, high needs of water, sodium, iodine,
poly-unsat.fatty acids (DHA), etc. All these features are typically seen in
different combinations in waterside & (semi)aquatic animals, but are
strikingly absent in savanna dwelling mammals.
Marc,
If you weren't a half-wit it would be obvious to you that you can
"prove" just about any species had an aquatic past with your dimwitted
comparative techniques.
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Homo & Pan separated ~64 Ma. Homo populations dispersed along
lakes/shores/rivers in savannas & elsewhere, eg, crossed 18 km sea to reach
Flores 0.8 Ma.
Homo tools/fossils 2.50.1 Ma are found near Rift valley lakes & even (sea
level fluctuations hindered fossilisation) Indian Ocean & African coasts,
often amid seashells (Mojokerto, Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra Amata, Table Bay,
Eritrea etc.).
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
IOW, if Savanna Fantasists who believe that fossils & tools of extinct human
relatives have been discovered in ancient savanna milieus, think that the
waterside theory is wrong, they have to prove that there were no rivers,
lakes or coasts in these milieus.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT
Waterside theory isn't wrong. It just isn't a theory. It fails to
explain much of anything at all. |
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| Lee Olsen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:23 pm |
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On May 1, 5:59 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@skynet.be> wrote:
Quote: SF:
If you weren't a half-wit it would be obvious to you that you can
"prove" just about any species had an aquatic past with your dimwitted
comparative techniques.
My little boy,
The pervert asks..
Quote: just prove us that giraffes had (semi)aquatic ancestors. Or
monkeys. Or lions. Or mice. Or bats. Or...
Homo |
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| Marc Verhaegen |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:52 pm |
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Quote: Olson doesn't seem to know that humans have much smaller mouths than apes.
Funny, but that didn't stop early Homo from eating kudus
Yes, my little boy, very curious, and an intelligent person would (IOW, not
you) like to know how that might be: the answer is simple: because we had
been adapted to the waterside:
Collection of waterside foods (fruits & nuts, turtle & bird eggs,
shell/crayfish, water(side)plants, drowned herbivores, stranded whales etc.)
explains unique Homo traits (not seen in apes & australopiths) better than
dwelling in forests or dry plains: huge brain, slow-diving skills, breath
control, vocality, small mouth+chewing muscles, tongue bone descent, longer
airway, projecting nose, poor sense of smell, handiness & tool use, late
puberty, long legs, alined body, poor climbing, flat feet, fur loss,
fatness, profuse sweating, high needs of water, sodium, iodine,
poly-unsat.fatty acids (DHA), etc. All these features are typically seen in
different combinations in waterside & (semi)aquatic animals, but are
strikingly absent in savanna dwelling mammals.
Homo & Pan separated ~64 Ma. Homo populations dispersed along
lakes/shores/rivers in savannas & elsewhere, eg, crossed 18 km sea to reach
Flores 0.8 Ma.
Homo tools/fossils 2.50.1 Ma are found near Rift valley lakes & even (sea
level fluctuations hindered fossilisation) Indian Ocean & African coasts,
often amid seashells (Mojokerto, Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra Amata, Table Bay,
Eritrea etc.).
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
IOW, if Savanna Fantasists who believe that fossils & tools of extinct human
relatives have been discovered in ancient savanna milieus, think that the
waterside theory is wrong, they have to prove that there were no rivers,
lakes or coasts in these milieus.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT |
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