NB wrote:
Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???

He is a crossposting geek who knows nothing about
electricity, and even less about general science.

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???
He is a crossposting geek who knows nothing about

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???

On Apr 30, 12:17 pm, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulf...@ppllaanneett.nnlll
wrote:
NB wrote:
Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???
He is a crossposting geek who knows nothing about
electricity, and even less about general science.

Is that the guy who said he figured out a way to safely handle downed
power lines and was going to go try it out?

Dave.
I hope so....

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:31:39 -0500, Hugh <h...@spankthemonkey.net
wrote:

Bates wrote:
On Apr 29, 9:35 pm, NB <nobuy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???

And yet so far he has not appeared in this thread.

W_TOM are you there?

Maybe he's another Tesla.

Many have recently filtered out Googlegroups becauise it's become the
overwhelming source of newsgroup spam. That's coincidentally who
wacko_tom posts through. I only see his nonsense if someone else is
foolish enough to respond to his rants.

On Apr 29, 9:35 pm, NB <nobuy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???


And yet so far he has not appeared in this thread.

W_TOM are you there?

Bates wrote:
On Apr 29, 9:35 pm, NB <nobuy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???


And yet so far he has not appeared in this thread.

W_TOM are you there?


Maybe he's another Tesla.

"NB" <nobuyout@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53f2fef-00bd-40d0-9ac1-c69b3bcadf52@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???
I think he sells surge suppressor strips and he uses the newsgroups to
promote his products by arguing with people about their effectiveness.

In article <4818170b$0$19828$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>,
Paul E. Schoen <pstech@smart.net> wrote:
"NB" <nobuyout@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53f2fef-00bd-40d0-9ac1-c69b3bcadf52@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Who is W_TOM and why has he appeared in every single thread that has
contained those keywords since 2001???
I think he sells surge suppressor strips and he uses the newsgroups to
promote his products by arguing with people about their effectiveness.

That would be a distinct improvement!

His posts are all about how surge protection has long been well
understood and effective protection isn't that hard but the
methods discussed in this thread are all wrong & stupid.

There is never any suggestion about what one should actually do,
not even an obviously biased one like "buy my product".

Maybe he taken a hiatus after the right propper whopping he got here
last week. I thought it was hillarious after he derided the makers
of plug-in surge protectors and then gave us his list of "real
companies", like Intermatic, GE, Leviton, etc., that were experts at
it. Only problem was, all of the companies on his list sell plug-in
ones too.

w_tom wrote:
On Apr 30, 3:10 pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
Maybe he taken a hiatus after the right propper whopping he got here
last week.   I thought it was hillarious after he derided the makers
of plug-in surge protectors and then gave us his list of "real
companies", like Intermatic, GE, Leviton, etc., that were experts at
it.    Only problem was, all of the companies on his list sell plug-in
ones too.

But, effective
protectors are sold only by companies with high reputations.
Effective 'whole house'
protectors are sold by GE, Leviton, Square D, Siemens, Cutler-Hammer,
Keison, and Intermatic - to name but a few.

On cue w_ comes up with the list of "responsible manufacturers" trader
referred to. All of them make plug-in suppressors but SquareD.

For the SquareD 'best' service panel suppressor - SDSB1175C
- The literature says "electronic equipment may need additional
protection by installing plug-in [suppressors] at the point of use."
- The connected equipment warranty $ is double when the suppressors "is
used in conjunction with ... a point of use surge protective device."

For the next best suppressor - QO2175SB and HOM2175SB
- The connected equipment warranty $ does not include "electronic
devices such as: microwave ovens, audio and stereo components, video
equipment, televisions, and computers."

It appears none of w_'s companies has a high reputation.

Still never seen - any source that agrees with w_ that plug-in
suppressors are NOT effective. It is  w_  against the universe.

--
bud--

On Apr 30, 3:10 pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:

Maybe he taken a hiatus after the right propper whopping he got here
last week.   I thought it was hillarious after he derided the makers
of plug-in surge protectors and then gave us his list of "real
companies", like Intermatic, GE, Leviton, etc., that were experts at
it.    Only problem was, all of the companies on his list sell plug-in
ones too.

  Trader ignored a reply that corrected his misconceptions.  I, too,
would sell plug-in protectors to 'experts' who never learned how
electricity works.  If one wants to stay ignorant, then I, too,  would
be happy to reap profits from their ignorance.  But, effective
protectors are sold only by companies with high reputations.  Trader
never understood that part.

  Some are foolish as to believe APC, Tripplite, Belkin, and Monster
Cable are responsible manufacturers.  Effective 'whole house'
protectors are sold by GE, Leviton, Square D, Siemens, Cutler-Hammer,
Keison, and Intermatic - to name but a few.  APC, Tripplite, Belkin,
and Monster Cable don't sell effective protectors.  Their products do
not even claim to provide protection.  But those who know using
insults would also recommend those APC, et al protectors.  I would
also sell trader the Brooklyn Bridge should he remain that naive.

  Well, this 'sound byte' is already too long for those to know only
by attacking the messenger.  Others who would spend tens of times less
money to have significant protection can easily identify the scam
protector.
  1) It has no dedicated earthing wire.
  2) Its manufacturer does not discuss earthing.
  3) It does not claim protection from each type of surge in
manufacturer spec numbers.
All three points identify every protector from APC, Belkin, Tripplite,
and Monster Cable.  A grocery store protector is the same ineffective
protector circuit selling for a smaller profit.  At a profit?
Equivalent to that profitable $7 protector is a circuit inside that
$150 Monster Cable protector.   Higher price means better protection?
Yes, when one would also buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Protection in a $150
Monster Cable product is equivalent to that $7 grocery store
protector.  Both protectors make the same protection claims in numeric
specs.

   Responsible lurkers ignore the insults; instead learn facts.  Every
responsible engineering source defines what the effective protector
does:   divert a surge into earth where energy is harmlessly
dissipated.  Numerous above posters claim a surge protector somehow
absorbs energy that even three miles of sky could not stop.  Does that
silly little one inch part stop what three miles of sky could not?
Many posters believe that myth.

  An earthed 'whole house' protector means surge energy gets
dissipated harmlessly in earth AND protector remains functional after
a direct lightning strike.  Effective protection means nobody knows a
surge even existed.  Did you grasp that technical reality - or know
only because others have posted insults?  A protector is only as
effective as its earth ground.  Three point are provided to quickly
indentify the ineffective (highly profitable) protectors.