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Tunderbar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:50 pm
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On Apr 29, 6:48 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
Quote:
Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

"Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote

Invariably?

Yup. Invariably.

Food production has always been greater than consumption. Food hoarding
by Capitalists has always been the ultimate factor in creating Famine.

This was not the case when man was still living in the trees with his
Libertarian brothers.

Ya cain't read, kin ya? Moron.
Tunderbar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:51 pm
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On Apr 29, 9:34 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
In article
de9b025a-bd5a-4e3b-a520-86c235189...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,



Tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 29, 1:26 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.

You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any
aid program that provided family planning services.

But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years. Lots of malnourished people, but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to provide
food during times of famine or war.

Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

Thus, populations have risen to the point where their own tribal
ecosystems
will no longer support the numbers.

Given that the U.S. has been importing more food than it has been
producing through the entire Bush Administration, one has to wonder how the
U.S. tribe will manage to survive it's continuing fiscal and social
collapse.

Invariably?

Read some history.

Don't feed the troll.

point taken
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:48 pm
Guest
Quote:
Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.


"Tunderbar" <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote
Quote:
Invariably?

Yup. Invariably.

Food production has always been greater than consumption. Food hoarding
by Capitalists has always been the ultimate factor in creating Famine.

This was not the case when man was still living in the trees with his
Libertarian brothers.
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:50 pm
Guest
Quote:
But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years. Lots of malnourished people,
but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to
provide
food during times of famine or war.


<lorad474@cs.com> wrote

Soviet Famine in the Stalen era was in large part a result of the state
exporting food for sale on global markets in order to acquire money for
modernization.

In other words.. Capitalism.
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:54 pm
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"James Beck" <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote
Quote:
The capitalist countries tend to produce much more food than they
consume, making it available to other countries that can't produce
enough to meet their needs.

That is generally true. Althogh no longer true of AmeriKKKa under
KKKonservative Rule.

In any case, Capitalists producing excess food and then refusing to
provide it to the starving at an affordable cost, doesn't really help the
starving now does it?

Invariably, when there is famine, the ultimate reason is Capitalists food
hoarding.



"James Beck" <jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote
Quote:
Communism and dictatorships are the problem, just look at history,
capitalism has been the solution.

Ya, the Irish Potato famine is proof of that.

MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
Michael Price
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:09 pm
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On Apr 30, 4:26 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.

  You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any aid program that provided family planning
services.

  But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

There would be no _government_ aid programs. That's all to the good

since famines have tended to occur in countries that recieved aid and
that built powerful government beaurcracies with that aid.

Quote:
  Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years.

Define "significant".

Quote:
 Lots of malnourished people, but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to provide
food during times of famine or war.

Yeah that's the reason. It has nothing to do with massive
interference
in the food market but government or brutal suppression of ethnic
groups
by government enforced starvation.
Quote:

  Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

Yeah like those captains of industry Mao, Stalin and Lenin. Jesus

Christ
you're a bad liar.

Quote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

Thus,  populations have risen to the point where their own tribal
ecosystems
will no longer support the numbers.

  Given that the U.S. has been importing more food than it has been
producing through the entire Bush Administration, one has to wonder
how the U.S. tribe will manage to survive it's continuing fiscal and
social collapse.

Well no, you don't. Once the dollar collapses food production will
become
more profitable in the US again. Learn some economics, or some
history,
or, or something!
Michael Price
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:12 pm
Guest
On Apr 30, 9:50 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
Quote:
But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years. Lots of malnourished people,
but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to
provide
food during times of famine or war.

lorad...@cs.com> wrote

And you 'be' a liar too...
http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhibit/famine.html

  Soviet Famine in the Stalen era was in large part a result of the state
exporting food for sale on global markets in order to acquire money for
modernization.

  In other words.. Capitalism.

I see, so for you anything involving money is capitalism, even if
it
specifically does not have private ownership of the means of
production. So
in other words you're not speaking English?
Michael Price
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:16 pm
Guest
On Apr 30, 11:47 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
Quote:
 Soviet Famine in the Stalen era was in large part a result of the state
exporting food for sale on global markets in order to acquire money for
modernization.

 In other words.. Capitalism.

"Marty" <martyandte...@verizon.net> wrote

So, it's capitalism's faul that communism/socialism breeds inefficiencies
and lost production.

  No.  But when Capitalists refuse to provide food at an affordable cost to
those who are starving, then the famine is ultimately the result of food
hoarding by Capitalists.

No because "food hoarding" happen unless there's a reason to believe
prices are going to go up. This reason is generally the result of
government
policy so it's the government that's to blame. If prices did go up
that means
that "hoarding" food was a good idea since there's obviously an even
greater
shortage after the price goes up. In any case the fact that the price
is
not "affordable" hardly indicates that there is "hoarding", it
indicates that
something has gone wrong with supply. Usually something to do with
government.
Quote:

"Marty" <martyandte...@verizon.net> wrote

Vendicar, you are simply a ignorant fool.

  I see that you refuse to live in the reality based community.

You just claimed that Stalinism was capitalism and you're accusing
him of not acknowledging reality?
Marty
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:20 pm
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"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:OuORj.56337$612.32390@read1.cgocable.net...
Quote:

But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years. Lots of malnourished people,
but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to
provide
food during times of famine or war.


lorad474@cs.com> wrote
And you 'be' a liar too...
http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhibit/famine.html

Soviet Famine in the Stalen era was in large part a result of the state
exporting food for sale on global markets in order to acquire money for
modernization.

In other words.. Capitalism.

So, it's capitalism's faul that communism/socialism breeds inefficiencies
and lost production.
Vendicar, you are simply a ignorant fool.
Quote:


V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:47 pm
Guest
Quote:
Soviet Famine in the Stalen era was in large part a result of the state
exporting food for sale on global markets in order to acquire money for
modernization.

In other words.. Capitalism.


"Marty" <martyandterri@verizon.net> wrote
Quote:
So, it's capitalism's faul that communism/socialism breeds inefficiencies
and lost production.

No. But when Capitalists refuse to provide food at an affordable cost to
those who are starving, then the famine is ultimately the result of food
hoarding by Capitalists.


"Marty" <martyandterri@verizon.net> wrote
Quote:
Vendicar, you are simply a ignorant fool.

I see that you refuse to live in the reality based community.
Harold Burton
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:33 pm
Guest
In article
<f59e9008-09ff-42c7-82c5-d2a36fdec6a4@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
lorad474@cs.com wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 29, 11:26 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.

  You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any
aid program that provided family planning services.

  But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

  Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years.  Lots of malnourished people, but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to provide
food during times of famine or war.

And you 'be' a liar too...



don't feed the troll.
Harold Burton
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:34 pm
Guest
In article
<de9b025a-bd5a-4e3b-a520-86c235189504@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Tunderbar <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 29, 1:26 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.

  You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any
aid program that provided family planning services.

  But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

  Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years.  Lots of malnourished people, but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to provide
food during times of famine or war.

  Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

Thus,  populations have risen to the point where their own tribal
ecosystems
will no longer support the numbers.

  Given that the U.S. has been importing more food than it has been
producing through the entire Bush Administration, one has to wonder how the
U.S. tribe will manage to survive it's continuing fiscal and social
collapse.

Invariably?

Read some history.



Don't feed the troll.
Harold Burton
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:34 pm
Guest
In article
<109bc910-6bda-4a1d-8526-7aa4c788e56d@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
solon fox <solonfox@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 29, 2:26 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.

  You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any
aid program that provided family planning services.

  But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

  Oh, by the way... There haven't been any significant number of starving
people in the world for the last 30 years.  Lots of malnourished people, but
starvation has been the either the result of capitalists refusing to provide
food during times of famine or war.

  Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

Thus,  populations have risen to the point where their own tribal
ecosystems
will no longer support the numbers.

  Given that the U.S. has been importing more food than it has been
producing through the entire Bush Administration, one has to wonder how the
U.S. tribe will manage to survive it's continuing fiscal and social
collapse.

Food shortages were common in the Soviet Union and are well known to
Communist China and North Korea as well.

Historically, famine is the result of natural disasters such as
drought and pestilence. The man made causes of famine include warfare
and bad economic policy, not capitalism.



Don't feed the troll.
Poetic Justice
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:57 pm
Guest
Harold Burton wrote:
Quote:
In article
f59e9008-09ff-42c7-82c5-d2a36fdec6a4@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
lorad474@cs.com wrote:

On Apr 29, 11:26 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
"Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote

People are starving in large part because Christian charities fed the
starving babies, but never also provided birth control.
You mean like the Bush administration pulling any KKKonservative
Gubberment funding from any
aid program that provided family planning services.

But then under Libertarian rule, there wouldn't be any aid programs at
all, now would there?

That would be Natural selection, which is what the Liberals want the
world to become... No humans killing animals, all species left to their
own natural balance.

Libertarians don't mind Human interference in nature. Libertarians
would allow private humanitarian aid, instead of requiring someone
else's money to use.
Bert Hyman
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:58 pm
Guest
In news:jLJRj.56282$612.35225@read1.cgocable.net "V-for-Vendicar"
<Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

Quote:
Famine is invariably a Capitalist crime.

How many millions did that infamous capitalist, Stalin, starve?

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
 
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