The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas theism is
provably logical, therefore the burden is on the atheist to articulate a
logical, consistent, coherent framework for their personal atheism, and they
all have different ideas of what atheism is.

The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework for
any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have to know
where to aim it.

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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I've had this discussion with enough atheists to know it's pointless.

Oh, but it isn't pointless. There is nothing pointless about showing the
BAAWAAAAAAWAAAAH Knights of atheism that atheism is inconsistent and
illogical. I do it all the time, but they do so hate to admit it.

There is much fun to be had in getting an alt.atheism atheist to define a
level of evidence for a Metaphysical X that does not entail a logical
error on the part of the atheist. alt.atheism arheists are collectively
witless to the idea that it is illogical to demand physically substantive
evidence of something that has no physical substance, and they will avoid
that truth at all costs.

The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas theism is
provably logical, therefore the burden is on the atheist to articulate a
logical, consistent, coherent framework for their personal atheism, and
they all have different ideas of what atheism is.

The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework
for any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have to
know where to aim it.

There is much fun to be had in getting an alt.atheism atheist to define a
level of evidence for a Metaphysical X that does not entail a logical error
on the part of the atheist. alt.atheism arheists are collectively witless to
the idea that it is illogical to demand physically substantive evidence of
something that has no physical substance, and they will avoid that truth at
all costs.

However unless the insubtantial can be shown to have an effect, a

Ben Goren wrote:

Same applies to people who claim there is no God.

Which god would that be<BITCHSLAP

Pick one.

There is much fun to be had in getting an alt.atheism atheist to
define a level of evidence for a Metaphysical X that does not
entail a logical error on the part of the atheist.

The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas
theism is provably logical

I've had this discussion with enough atheists to know it's pointless. I
believe in God. You don't. Fine. I believe there is an after life. You
believe when your few years on earth are over there is nothing. Fine. Good
luck. Good bye.

Irish Mike


"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
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Irish Mike wrote:

It's been my experience that very few people are afraid of death
- until they face it.

I've faced death a number of times. I'm certainly not fond of the
idea, but I wouldn't say I'm afraid of it. I intend to do
everything I reasonably can to enjoy as much of life for as long
as I can, but I can't see much point in fearing death. After all,
I was dead for a dozen billion years or so before now; I imagine
I'll get used to it again after at least the first million years,
if not sooner.

Dying I'd really, really rather avoid, at least in almost all the
forms it usually takes.

Same applies to people who claim there is no God.

Which god would that be, and what makes it so unique to single it
out for special attention?

I've had this discussion with enough atheists to know it's pointless.  I
believe in God.  You don't.  Fine.  I believe there is an after life.. You
believe when your few years on earth are over there is nothing.  Fine.  Good
luck.  Good bye.

Irish Mike

"Ben Goren" <b...@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message

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Irish Mike wrote:

It's been my experience that very few people are afraid of death
- until they face it.

I've faced death a number of  times. I'm certainly not fond of the
idea,  but  I wouldn't  say  I'm  afraid  of  it. I intend  to  do
everything I reasonably  can to enjoy as much of  life for as long
as I can, but I can't  see much point in fearing death. After all,
I was dead for  a dozen billion years or so  before now; I imagine
I'll get used to it again  after at least the first million years,
if not sooner.

Dying I'd really, really rather avoid,  at least in almost all the
forms it usually takes.

Same applies to people who claim there is no God.

Which god would that be, and what  makes it so unique to single it
out for special attention?

Cheers,

b&

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Kadaitcha Man wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Same applies to people who claim there is no God.

Which god would that be<BITCHSLAP

Pick one.

So, you're trying to tell us that Ra created the world? Such a
daring and bold move!

Cheers,

b&

I don't think he knows what he's saying.

[snips]

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:37:16 +0000, Dutch wrote:
"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework
for any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have
to know where to aim it.

shhh, just breathe...

"In through the mouth, out through the mouth..."

The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas theism is
provably logical

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework
for any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have
to know where to aim it.

shhh, just breathe...

"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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I've had this discussion with enough atheists to know it's pointless.

Oh, but it isn't pointless. There is nothing pointless about showing the
BAAWAAAAAAWAAAAH Knights of atheism that atheism is inconsistent and
illogical. I do it all the time, but they do so hate to admit it.

There is much fun to be had in getting an alt.atheism atheist to define
a level of evidence for a Metaphysical X that does not entail a logical
error on the part of the atheist. alt.atheism arheists are collectively
witless to the idea that it is illogical to demand physically
substantive evidence of something that has no physical substance, and
they will avoid that truth at all costs.

The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas theism is
provably logical, therefore the burden is on the atheist to articulate a
logical, consistent, coherent framework for their personal atheism, and
they all have different ideas of what atheism is.

The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework
for any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have to
know where to aim it.

You are in effect saying that something exists if I can't prove it does
not exist.

This is pure illogic. It is logical to assume something does not exist if
there is NO
OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for its existence!

"Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message

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I've had this discussion with enough atheists to know it's pointless.

Oh, but it isn't pointless. There is nothing pointless about showing the
BAAWAAAAAAWAAAAH Knights of atheism that atheism is inconsistent and
illogical. I do it all the time, but they do so hate to admit it.

There is much fun to be had in getting an alt.atheism atheist to define a
level of evidence for a Metaphysical X that does not entail a logical error
on the part of the atheist. alt.atheism arheists are collectively witless to
the idea that it is illogical to demand physically substantive evidence of
something that has no physical substance, and they will avoid that truth at
all costs.

The point being, atheism is prima facie illogical, whereas theism is
provably logical, therefore the burden is on the atheist to articulate a
logical, consistent, coherent framework for their personal atheism, and they
all have different ideas of what atheism is.

The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework for
any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have to know
where to aim it.

--
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BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
``All but God can prove this sentence true.''

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:37:16 +0000, Dutch wrote:

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The funny part is, there is no logical, consistent, coherent framework
for any kind of atheism. The boot is on the other foot. You just have
to know where to aim it.
shhh, just breathe...

"In through the mouth, out through the mouth..." :)

Kadaitcha Man wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Same applies to people who claim there is no God.

Which god would that be<BITCHSLAP

Pick one.

So, you're trying to tell us that Ra created the world?

Such a daring and bold move!