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| Dirk Van de moortel |
 Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:48 am |
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Nice read:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm |
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| rbwinn |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:48 am |
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On Apr 26, 4:48�am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Quote: Nice read:
� �http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
� �"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
� � relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
� � outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
� � a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm
Einstein was just a typical scientist, not very good at mathematics.
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| Shubee |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:48 am |
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On Apr 26, 6:48 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Relativity isn't wrong but it is an affront to common sense because
physicists prefer Einstein's barbaric approach to the subject, which
is mystical and unenlightened when compared to modern standards.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
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| rbwinn |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:16 am |
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On Apr 26, 9:02�am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 26, 6:48 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
Nice read:
� �http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
Relativity isn't wrong but it is an affront to common sense because
physicists prefer Einstein's barbaric approach to the subject, which
is mystical and unenlightened when compared to modern standards.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
Shubee
Einstein was very logical compared to these people today.
Robert B. Winn |
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| Androcles |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:35 am |
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| Relativity isn't wrong
Assertion carries no weight, crank.
What I want to know is why Einstein says
the speed of light is c-v from A to B,
the speed of light is c+v from B to A,
the time each way is the same.
He must have been a right kook... like you. |
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| Steve Bell |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:47 am |
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"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
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Quote: Nice read:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm
Hi Dirk,
Thanks for this interesting link. In it, there are discussions towards the
bottom. In a post from David Thomson, there was a link that let to another
link http://www.16pi2.com. This link describes the Aether Physics Model
(APM).
On the APM page was another link to an "electron binding energy equation"
http://www.16pi2.com/files/Electron_binding_energy_equation.pdf. In this PDF
document, they give a prediction of -13.606 eV for ground state hydrogen's
binding energy. I should point out, this disagrees with what the well
established observed experimental Rydbeg constant for hydrogen says ground
state hydrogen's binding energy is from unbiased spectroscopic data, which
is more like -13.5982842 eV. It would appear then, that this APM model does
not fair well when compared to the observed. There is only way I know of, to
make a relativistic model agree with the observed R_H, which looks somewhat
related to the APM, but it certainly does not rely on an aether concept.
Steve Bell |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:47 am |
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Dear Dirk Van de moortel:
"Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Nice read:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
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Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant
hulk of a guy who really put the fear of physical
harm into some of the folks over there"? I'm
sure he's present in this newsgroup...
I wouldn't bet on it.
"Matt McIrvin" was posting form Harvard in 1995. No telling if
he has "received the cure" yet or not.
Pretty interesting comments have already been made there too...
David A. Smith |
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| Mike |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:54 pm |
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On Apr 26, 7:48 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Quote: Nice read:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
a fake?"
Einstein was extremely good in understanding the foundational problems
of physics and that enabled him to unite already developed scattered
concepts into a theory by adding a couple postulates of his own.
Both his theories are brilliant but the failure of the academic
establishemnt has been to show how these theories connect to physical
reality. There are reasons this is not done, at the expense of the
theories getting attacked constantly. The reasons fall in the general
area of scientific obscurantism for purposes one can guess.
Most students I remmebr had poroblems vusualizing 3-D geometrical
objects and Einstein asks people to accept 4-D manifolds. Unless the
theories are popularized in a braod sense, they will die in the future
in lieu of some theistic creationist, teleological physics, like a new
scholastic philosophy, which has a lot of support in US by religious
groups.
I think Relativists are the ones who do the most harm to Relativity,
not the cranks and the cooks. String theopry is the new religion,
Relativity is dying.
Mike
P.S Dirt, after solving for the relativistic golden ration , this is
the best you could come up with? How about showing that according to
relativity, someone can know the lotto numbers before they are drawn?
Quote: The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:01 pm |
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On Apr 26, 5:22Â am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 26, 4:48�am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
Nice read:
� �http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
� �"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
� � relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
� � outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
� � a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm
Einstein was just a typical scientist, not very good at mathematics.
And you're just a typical crackpot, ignorant to the bone [head].
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| Dono |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:19 pm |
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On Apr 26, 4:48 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Quote: Nice read:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm
Wow, Tom van Flandern, David Thompson and some comments from Patchko
Velev, all the nutters in one place! |
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| Dono |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:20 pm |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:51 pm |
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On Apr 26, 5:19 pm, "Pmb" <peter.m.br...@somewhere.net> wrote:
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Nonsense. Einstein was a very good mathematician. He simply wasn't a great
mathematician. However he was certainly a superb physicist. In fact he's the
very model of a first rate physicist. He may even be the best physicist
since Isaac Newton.
You worshipful reverence for Einstein is based on a lie.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/46a1e855c9be269b
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| Pmb |
| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:19 pm |
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On Apr 26, 4:48?am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Quote: Nice read:
? ?http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162
? ?"There's nothing quite like Einstein and his theories of
? ? relativity to bring out the doubters, the cranks and the
? ? outright crackpots. Do they have a point? Was Einstein
? ? a fake?"
The article mentions this newsgroup and a few well
known names.
Anyone any idea about the name of that "giant hulk of
a guy who really put the fear of physical harm into some
of the folks over there"? I'm sure he's present in this
newsgroup...
Enjoy reading,
Dirk Vdm
Einstein was just a typical scientist, not very good at mathematics.
Nonsense. Einstein was a very good mathematician. He simply wasn't a great
mathematician. However he was certainly a superb physicist. In fact he's the
very model of a first rate physicist. He may even be the best physicist
since Isaac Newton.
Pete |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:19 pm |
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"Shubee" <e.Shubee@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Actually it is you who is wrong. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:45 pm |
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| Relativity isn't wrong
Assertion carries no weight, crank.
What I want to know is why Einstein says
the speed of light is c-v from A to B,
the speed of light is c+v from B to A,
the time each way is the same.
No, it's you who says (or makes the assertion) that:
" Einstein says
the speed of light is c-v from A to B,
the speed of light is c+v from B to A "
Do you want to know why you say that? |
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