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Guest
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:50 pm
On 29 apr, 01:03, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
Quote:
In article <ab1fcb35-3296-4464-b525-
293145b53...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, bill.slo...@ieee.org
says...





On 28 apr, 02:10, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
In article <e2v9141e4knuarvt71abciaebi235gu...@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0400, Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[...snip typical moronic nonsense sniping...]

You don't know anything about electronics, you're too stupid to learn,
and you have nothing useful to say, so why do you post here?

Gaw-w-w-w-wd!  What is that smell?  Is that YOU Bloggsy?  Forgot to
wipe again ?:-)

He doesn't wipe his ears.

Depressing exhibition of the wit and wisdom of Jim and his acolytes.

Hell, Slow, why bother reading us to be depressed.  You over-
educated unemployable leftist weenies do that well enough by
yourselves.

The fact that you and Jim's other acolytes are a bunch of under-
educated brain-dead incompetents doesn't depress me at all - while it
is nicer to be approved of by people you can admire, being disliked by
people you despise is also comforting.

The depressing aspect of your posts is that they make it clear that
Jim and his little claque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque

don't realise how despicably trivial their spam is. Your message is
that all's far-right with the world, and anybody who disagress with
this has problems with their personal hygiene - which, even if it
happened to be true, would have little relevance to the correctness of
their opinions.

The Japanese are notorious for toilet-training their kids very early,
and some commentators have correlated this with the excessively
conformist attitiudes of the adult Japanese, which does show up in
excessive respect for authority figures (even when they get as daft as
Jim has) and a lack of willingness to innovate (because any successful
innovation is an implicit criticism of the way the job had been done
in the past).

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Michael A. Terrell
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:16 pm
Guest
krw wrote:
Quote:

In article <70pb14ldq2tnq4l07nvkau5f5o0lpdejkl@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...

Yep, You survived a partial birth abortion ;-)

He did?


The doctor took one look and shoved him back in, then bitch slapped
his mother.


--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
Blocher's spokesman
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:59 am
Guest
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote

Quote:
The Japanese are notorious for toilet-training their kids very early,
and some commentators have correlated this with the excessively
conformist attitiudes of the adult Japanese,

That really seems like a stretch. How do you know that its not because they
eat too much rice, or not enough red meat, or maybe because its because they
didn't watch enough John Wayne growing up. Maybe its the lack of good Bugs
Bunny cartoons.

Quote:
which does show up in
excessive respect for authority figures (even when they get as daft as
Jim has) and a lack of willingness to innovate

Their innovation is way down there. I think they are now behind Zimbabwe,
Pakistan, Tchad and Bolivia. I think they are still ahead of Suriname,
thank goodness.

Quote:
(because any successful
innovation is an implicit criticism of the way the job had been done
in the past).

How did they learn to make cars, cameras, robots, tractors. You know, they
even built a first class navy some 60 years ago, If I recall correctly.
They must also have pretty thick skin to endure all that criticism.


Brent
Fred Bloggs
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:21 am
Guest
krw wrote:

Quote:

He did?



You don't know anything about electronics and you're too stupid to
learn, so why do you post to SED?
Fred Bloggs
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:21 am
Guest
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Quote:

The doctor took one look and shoved him back in, then bitch slapped
his mother.



You don't know anything about electronics and you're too stupid to
learn, so why do you post to SED?
Fred Bloggs
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:27 am
Guest
krw wrote:

Quote:
Hell, Slow, why bother reading us to be depressed. You over-
educated unemployable leftist weenies do that well enough by
yourselves.


I find the term "overeducated" to be favored by insecure, talentless,
nitwits whose main efforts must necessarily be devoted to job
preservation. You are an abject "luser" and non-performer.

You don't know anything about electronics and you're too stupid to
learn, so why do you post to SED?
Guest
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 pm
On 29 apr, 12:59, "Blocher's spokesman" <n...@nono.com> wrote:
Quote:
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote

The Japanese are notorious for toilet-training their kids very early,
and some commentators have correlated this with the excessively
conformist attitiudes of the adult Japanese,

That really seems like a stretch.

Agreed.

Quote:
 How do you know that its not because they
eat too much rice, or not enough red meat, or maybe because its because they
didn't watch enough John Wayne growing up.  Maybe its the lack of good Bugs
Bunny cartoons.

I don't. You'd have to ask the commentators.
Quote:

which does show up in
excessive respect for authority figures (even when they get as daft as
Jim has) and a lack of willingness to innovate

Their innovation is way down there.  I think they are now behind Zimbabwe,
Pakistan, Tchad and Bolivia.  I think they are still ahead of Suriname,
thank goodness.

(because any successful innovation is an implicit criticism of the way the job had been done
in the past).

How did they learn to make cars, cameras, robots, tractors.  You know, they
even built a first class navy some 60 years ago, If I recall correctly.
They must also have pretty thick skin to endure all that criticism.

Learning to make cars, cameras, robots, tractors and battleships
doesn't require innovation, if you can find somebody else who is
already making them. Making them better than the originals by a
process of steady refinement presumably does involve lots of small
innovations, but these don't criticise the way other Japanese chose to
do the job in the past. There is an implicit criticism of the
improvisations of the slap-dash round-eyes who invented the stuff in
the first place, but the Japanese are perfectly happy to criticise
foreigners.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
krw
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:02 pm
Guest
In article <rgmc141mp8dvpe4t0thdclk6m01e9hgqtf@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...
Quote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:03:33 -0400, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

In article <ab1fcb35-3296-4464-b525-
293145b5309b@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, bill.sloman@ieee.org
says...
On 28 apr, 02:10, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
In article <e2v9141e4knuarvt71abciaebi235gu...@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0400, Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[...snip typical moronic nonsense sniping...]

You don't know anything about electronics, you're too stupid to learn,
and you have nothing useful to say, so why do you post here?

Gaw-w-w-w-wd!  What is that smell?  Is that YOU Bloggsy?  Forgot to
wipe again ?:-)

He doesn't wipe his ears.

Depressing exhibition of the wit and wisdom of Jim and his acolytes.

Hell, Slow, why bother reading us to be depressed. You over-
educated unemployable leftist weenies do that well enough by
yourselves.

This posting was properly flagged as "WHON", my code-word subject tag
for any fellow-up to a Bloggsy-originated sub-thread Wink

Umm, Jim. If you care to look back through the threadlet, you were
already in it before I joined. ;-)

--
Keith
Jim Thompson
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:13 pm
Guest
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:02:50 -0400, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

Quote:
In article <rgmc141mp8dvpe4t0thdclk6m01e9hgqtf@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:03:33 -0400, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

In article <ab1fcb35-3296-4464-b525-
293145b5309b@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, bill.sloman@ieee.org
says...
On 28 apr, 02:10, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
In article <e2v9141e4knuarvt71abciaebi235gu...@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0400, Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[...snip typical moronic nonsense sniping...]

You don't know anything about electronics, you're too stupid to learn,
and you have nothing useful to say, so why do you post here?

Gaw-w-w-w-wd!  What is that smell?  Is that YOU Bloggsy?  Forgot to
wipe again ?:-)

He doesn't wipe his ears.

Depressing exhibition of the wit and wisdom of Jim and his acolytes.

Hell, Slow, why bother reading us to be depressed. You over-
educated unemployable leftist weenies do that well enough by
yourselves.

This posting was properly flagged as "WHON", my code-word subject tag
for any fellow-up to a Bloggsy-originated sub-thread ;-)

Umm, Jim. If you care to look back through the threadlet, you were
already in it before I joined. Wink

I wasn't picking on you, Keith... just amusing myself that my filters
are working just super. I'm about to dispense with personally
watching the Flags/labeling, and let Agent have its way with the
messages ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Blocher's spokesman
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:38 pm
Guest
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote>
Quote:
That really seems like a stretch.

Agreed.

(This is a rhetorical statement) If you knew it was a stretch, then why did
you post this as an argument about using toilet papaer?



Quote:
Learning to make cars, cameras, robots, tractors and battleships
doesn't require innovation, if you can find somebody else who is
already making them

I have to disagree with you here. All the tooling and planning and material
sciences required to do any
of these things require innovation from the technicians to the machinists to
the engineers the the welders
and builders.

Quote:
Making them better than the originals by a
process of steady refinement presumably does involve lots of small
innovations,

I think that it shows an entire workforce that is capable of substantial
innovation.

Quote:
but these don't criticise the way other Japanese chose to
do the job in the past. There is an implicit criticism of the
improvisations of the slap-dash round-eyes who invented the stuff in
the first place, but the Japanese are perfectly happy to criticise
foreigners.

I do not know how the Japanese view competition from say Nisson to Toyota,
but based upon their successes and based upon human nature, they must
fiercely compete with each other and not be afraid to criticize their
Japanese competition. Their success would lead me to believe they are all
to happy to criticize and out do one another. Now, you could convince me
that during the Russian Communist economy in the USSR that one tractor
factory was not allowed to criticize another. Their lack of innovation
seemed to show, but I suspect that in reality the Russians are good
innovators too, they just suck at politics.

Brent
Joel Koltner
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:21 pm
Guest
"Blocher's spokesman" <no@nono.com> wrote in message
news:4817b16f$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Quote:
Now, you could convince me that during the Russian Communist economy in the
USSR that one tractor factory was not allowed to criticize another. Their
lack of innovation seemed to show

I suspect this might have had more to do with whether or not there was any
*reward* for innovation rather than whether or not criticism was allowed.

Quote:
but I suspect that in reality the Russians are good innovators too

Absolutely they are.
John Fields
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:43 pm
Guest
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:21:14 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
"Blocher's spokesman" <no@nono.com> wrote in message
news:4817b16f$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Now, you could convince me that during the Russian Communist economy in the
USSR that one tractor factory was not allowed to criticize another. Their
lack of innovation seemed to show

I suspect this might have had more to do with whether or not there was any
*reward* for innovation rather than whether or not criticism was allowed.

---
Yup. "From all according to their capability and to all according to
their need." sure makes it easy for the reward to be knowing that you
momentarily filled the stomach of an infinite sink at the expense of
your own demise. Oh, "but for the greater good", you're told, as you
happily sink into the abyss...
---

Quote:
but I suspect that in reality the Russians are good innovators too

Absolutely they are.

---
Not to open old wounds but why, then, did they need to enlist the
services of the likes of the Rosenbergs and Klaus Fuchs if they could
have done it by themselves?

JF
Blocher's spokesman
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:54 pm
Guest
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote


Quote:
Not to open old wounds but why, then, did they need to enlist the
services of the likes of the Rosenbergs and Klaus Fuchs if they could
have done it by themselves?


I suspect that the Rosenberg's got them to the party quicker, but they would
have made it there themselves. Time was a precious commodity for the
Russians at that time.

I believe we used Von Braun to get our rockets up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

Brent
Blocher's spokesman
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:09 pm
Guest
"> "John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Quote:


Not to open old wounds but why, then, did they need to enlist the
services of the likes of the Rosenbergs and Klaus Fuchs if they could
have done it by themselves?


Here is an opinion of Russian innovation that lines up with your opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNC-aj76zI4&feature=related

Brent
krw
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:48 pm
Guest
In article <snaf1494d66if6ajfg5rao17raovo22578@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...
Quote:
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:02:50 -0400, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

In article <rgmc141mp8dvpe4t0thdclk6m01e9hgqtf@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:03:33 -0400, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

In article <ab1fcb35-3296-4464-b525-
293145b5309b@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, bill.sloman@ieee.org
says...
On 28 apr, 02:10, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
In article <e2v9141e4knuarvt71abciaebi235gu...@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com says...

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0400, Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[...snip typical moronic nonsense sniping...]

You don't know anything about electronics, you're too stupid to learn,
and you have nothing useful to say, so why do you post here?

Gaw-w-w-w-wd!  What is that smell?  Is that YOU Bloggsy?  Forgot to
wipe again ?:-)

He doesn't wipe his ears.

Depressing exhibition of the wit and wisdom of Jim and his acolytes..

Hell, Slow, why bother reading us to be depressed. You over-
educated unemployable leftist weenies do that well enough by
yourselves.

This posting was properly flagged as "WHON", my code-word subject tag
for any fellow-up to a Bloggsy-originated sub-thread ;-)

Umm, Jim. If you care to look back through the threadlet, you were
already in it before I joined. ;-)

I wasn't picking on you, Keith... just amusing myself that my filters
are working just super. I'm about to dispense with personally
watching the Flags/labeling, and let Agent have its way with the
messages Wink

I wasn't worried about being picked on, just that the your filters
should have snagged a bigger fish, first. ;-)

--
Keith
 
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