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Carole
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:55 am
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"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
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Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one
of her whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.

snip


But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as
to why it isn't so.

So happy reading.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows
a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble explaining why
S-
waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to a depth of
roughly
2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at least that thick..
Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves show a continuing
increase in velocity from there to the center of the earth, showing that
the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher than that in the shell
above. Further, you should be able to explain why, if there is a free
surface in the interior of the earth, all seismic waves are not
reflected
from it. Further, you can make your own seismometer and see for
yourself
that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does not muck with seismograms. You
are the one making an extraordinary claim here - it's up to you to show
why
seismograms are really compatible with a hollow shell, despite not
showing
effects which must be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.

I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the
orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the
earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.


Chapter II
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt

The total surface of the Earth is 197 million square miles and its estimated
weight is six sextillion tons. If the Earth was a solid sphere, its weight
would be much greater. This is one among other scientific evidences of the
fact that the Earth has a hollow interior.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Carole
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:02 am
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<sir.jean-paul.turcaud@neuf.fr> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 26 avr, 21:02, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one of
her
whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.

However, the more I read about the hollow earth theory the more
convinced I
am that there is a huge coverup -- so what's news considering how much
lies
and propaganda there is in every field of human endeavour -- medicine,
science, military, economy and not to forget history. It seems the lies
never end, the more you dig the more lies there are. its just layer upon
layer like a sarah what's-her-name cheesecake -- just lies, garbage and
junk.

A person has to be a hardy soul and persistent to sort out the truth
from
the crap, what they want us to believe.
Information is power and they want to keep people enfeebled, they treat
them
like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on excrement.

*> There are some marvellous online sources for this topic, one of the
main
*> ones being Admiral Byrd's flight into the gap at the north pole
(but there
*> really isn't a north pole as such).
*> Also Admiral Byrd later flew on a mission to the south pole and
there is
*> some funny stuff going on there too.
*
*> One of the good sources on this topic is at
*> THE HOLLOW
EARTHhttp://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Ear..

..
Quote:
*> byrd.txt
*> he Greatest Geographical Discovery in History
*> Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the
Poles
*> The True Origin of the Flying Saucers
*
*> By Dr. Raymond Bernard A.B., M.A. Ph.D.
*
*> But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections
as to why
*> it isn't so.
*
*> So happy reading.
*
*> Carolewww.conspiracee.com

Good Morning Lady Carole,

Nice to note that you are always on the breach, first on the battle
line indeed, trying to shake people from their slumbering existence.
I hope you are as well as cute & deliciously pretty as usual, and your
seeking mind is looking for those needed answers gives me confirmation
that it is so, indeed the corollary of :
"Mens Sana in Corpore Sano"
confirms it.

Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles / or
The True Origin of the Flying Saucers, even as a genuine report was
obviously lured & propped to bring forth a wrong interpretation of his
lived experience.

Yes, I realise the hollow earth theory doesn't gell with your UPL theory
about the centre of the earth being gold, not iron core.
Please explain what you mean by Admiral Byrd getting the wrong
interpretation of what he reported.



Quote:

I regret though that you post does not rise the level of conscience of
conditioned minds relative to the other issues : The evident
conspiracy of Governments going through the worse psy ops and getting
away with it . Latest in date being the :
1) The Murder of Australia Prime Minister Harold Holt
2) Mass Murder of 36 Australian a point blank range by a Hired Mossad
commando commandeered by Australia Prime Minister John Howard & known
ever since as the PORT ARTHUR HOLOCAUST, all this to force his Gun
Control Law through Parliament.... a poor retarded young man with no
shooting experience, Bryant then being made the scapegoat of its all
and rotting now in an Tasmanian Prison while that miserable mean
Swaggy & definitive ole shit of Howard is getting away with it
( except for his well deserved prostatic cancer)
3) The wilful destruction of the World Trade Centers Towers in New
York organised by Bush and his clique to justify the invasion &
control over the greatest Middle East Oil Reserves
4) Last but not least the evident conspiracy of thousand of World
Class Cretins, blurring the understanding of Earth & Humanity
History since over 2 centuries through what is known as the Oxford
University based present Official Geology

All fields of human endeavour are based on faulty misinformation -- science,
medicine, history, economics, military, the war on terror -- you name it, it
is based on crap. The people are treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark
and fed excrement.
The average person in the street would be better to rely on common sense
than listen to the rubbish that comes from "experts" and "reliable sources".

Quote:

By the way, I believe Rudd has convened 1 000 Sterile & Clueless
Villains to give him an advise on the state of Australia faced with
Global Warming consequences, while the very gentleman who put 3 mines
on the map of Australia was not even invited ! Correct ?

Correct.

thankyou

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



Quote:

With my kindest regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~




Carole
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:05 am
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message
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THE HOLLOW EARTH
The Greatest Geographical Discovery in History
Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles
The True Origin of the Flying Saucers

By Dr. Raymond Bernard A.B., M.A. Ph.D.

http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt

In February 1947, about the time when Admiral Byrd made his great discovery
of land beyond the North Pole, another remarkable discovery was made in the
continent of Antarctica, the discovery of "Bunger's Oasis."

This discovery was made by Lt. Commander David Bunger who was at the
controls of one of six large transport planes used by Admiral Byrd for the
U. S. Navy's `Operation Highjump' (1946-1947). Bunger was flying inland from
the Shackleton Ice Shelf near Queen Mary Coast of Wilkes Land. He and his
crew were about four miles from the coastline where open water lies.

The land Bunger discovered was ice-free. The lakes were of many different
colors, ranging from rusty red, green to deep blue. Each of the lakes was
more than three miles long. The water was warmer than the ocean, as Bunger
found by landing his seaplane on one of the lakes. Each lake had a gently
sloping beach.

Around the four edges of the oasis, which was roughly square in shape,
Bunger saw endless and eternal white snow and ice. Two sides of the oasis
rose nearly a hundred feet high, and consisted of great ice walls. The other
two sides had a more gradual and gentle slope.

The existence of such an oasis in the far Antarctic, a land of perpetual
ice, would indicate warmer conditions there, which would exist if the oasis
was in the south polar opening, leading to the warmer interior of the earth,
as was the case with the warmer territory, with land and lakes, that Admiral
Byrd discovered beyond the North Pole, which was probably within the north
polar opening. Otherwise one cannot explain the existence of such an oasis
of unfrozen territory in the midst of the continent of Antarctica with ice
miles thick. The oasis could not result from volcanic activity below the
Earth's surface, for, since the land area of the oasis covered three hundred
square miles, it was too big to be affected by volcanic heat supply. Warm
wind currents from the Earth's interior are a better explanation.

Thus Byrd in the Arctic and Bunger in the Antarctic both made similar
discoveries of warmer land areas beyond the Poles at about the same time,
early in 1947. But they were not the only ones to make such a discovery.
Some time ago a newspaper in Toronto, Canada, "The Globe and Mail,"
published a photo of a green valley taken by an aviator in the Arctic
region. Evidently the aviator took the picture from the air and did not
attempt to land. It was a beautiful valley and contained rolling green
hills. The aviator must have gone beyond the North Pole into the same warmer
territory that Admiral Byrd visited, which lies inside the polar opening.
This picture was published in 1960.

Quote:

Carole

www.conspiracee.com

Quote:



BDK
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:19 am
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In article <3ca26acf-84a7-4c80-b13a-
82a8f4fddcab@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says...
Quote:
On Apr 27, 6:03 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com
wrote:
In article
a88558d2-ee5b-4a36-8ac8-95fdab69a...@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,

BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 27, 1:14 am, "sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-
paul.turcaud...@neuf.fr> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:23:28 -0700, Timberwoof wrote:
How do you know this?

How could you _not_ know is the appropriate question.

Please find below some scholarly articles on the subject.

http://www.freewebs.com/reptoids/undergroundbases.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/pindar.html

Very interesting stuff.

About as "interesting" and scientifically accurate as an episode of
"Lost in Space."

In its day, that was a fairly good program, even mostly based upon the
regular laws of physics, none the less.
. - Brad Guth


BWHAHAHAHAAA! Let me guess, it was based on your life?

BDK
Peter Webb
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:20 am
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
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Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one
of her whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.

snip


But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as
to why it isn't so.

So happy reading.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows
a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble explaining
why
S-
waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to a depth of
roughly
2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at least that thick..
Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves show a continuing
increase in velocity from there to the center of the earth, showing
that
the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher than that in the shell
above. Further, you should be able to explain why, if there is a free
surface in the interior of the earth, all seismic waves are not
reflected
from it. Further, you can make your own seismometer and see for
yourself
that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does not muck with seismograms.
You
are the one making an extraordinary claim here - it's up to you to show
why
seismograms are really compatible with a hollow shell, despite not
showing
effects which must be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.

I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can
measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the
orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the
earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.


Chapter II
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt

The total surface of the Earth is 197 million square miles and its
estimated
weight is six sextillion tons. If the Earth was a solid sphere, its weight
would be much greater. This is one among other scientific evidences of the
fact that the Earth has a hollow interior.

The surface area has got nothing to do with it.

The earth is a sphere of radius 6,000 kms, = 6 * 10^6 metres.

Volume of a sphere = 4/3 Pi r^3
Volume of earth = 4/3 pi * (6*10^6)^3= 4 * 216 * 10^18 = 10^21 cubic metres.

If it was made out of solid iron, which has a density of 8 tonnes per cubic
metres, it would weigh about 8 * 10^21 tonnes.

In fact, it weighs slightly less than this, 6 * 10^21 tonnes (which I guess
is six sextillion tons, which is what your flaky books says).

Looks about right to me.











Quote:
BDK
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:20 am
Guest
In article <FgcRj.5631$ko5.1691@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, sir.jean-
paul.turcaudbot@neuf.fr says...
Quote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:01:36 -0400, BDK wrote:

Is "WELLDONE" what the cannibal said when he cooked your brain and had
it for dinner?

BDK

Is BDK shorthand for Bee Dick?

WELLDONE! Yep!


Bee Dick? Things must be very strange where you come from.

BDK
fritz
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:32 am
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Quote:

"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
news:48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one
of her whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.

snip


But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as
to why it isn't so.

So happy reading.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows
a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble explaining why
S-
waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to a depth of
roughly
2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at least that thick..
Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves show a continuing
increase in velocity from there to the center of the earth, showing that
the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher than that in the shell
above. Further, you should be able to explain why, if there is a free
surface in the interior of the earth, all seismic waves are not
reflected
from it. Further, you can make your own seismometer and see for
yourself
that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does not muck with seismograms. You
are the one making an extraordinary claim here - it's up to you to show
why
seismograms are really compatible with a hollow shell, despite not
showing
effects which must be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.

I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the
orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the
earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.


Chapter II
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt

The total surface of the Earth is 197 million square miles and its estimated
weight is six sextillion tons. If the Earth was a solid sphere, its weight
would be much greater. This is one among other scientific evidences of the
fact that the Earth has a hollow interior.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

Newtonian Gravity and a Hollow Earth

Someone on the inside of a hollow Earth would not experience an outward pull
and could not stand on the inner surface; rather, the theory of gravity implies
that a person on the inside would be nearly weightless. This was first shown by
Newton, whose shell theorem mathematically predicts a gravitational force of
zero everywhere inside a spherically symmetric hollow shell of matter, regardless
of the shell's thickness. A tiny gravitational force would arise from the fact that
the Earth does not have a perfectly symmetrical spherical shape, and also
from forces due to masses such as the Moon which do not form part of the
spherical shell. The centrifugal force from the Earth's rotation would pull a
person (on the inner surface) outwards, but even at the equator this is only
1/300 of ordinary Earth gravity.

Also, if the Earth were largely hollow but made of the same materials,
it would have much less mass than it does, and the gravity on the outer
surface would be much less than it is.
invinoveritas
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:54 am
Guest
April the 1st already gone long ago

"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message
news:48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

THE HOLLOW EARTH
The Greatest Geographical Discovery in History
Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles
The True Origin of the Flying Saucers

By Dr. Raymond Bernard A.B., M.A. Ph.D.

http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt

In February 1947, about the time when Admiral Byrd made his great
discovery
of land beyond the North Pole, another remarkable discovery was made in
the
continent of Antarctica, the discovery of "Bunger's Oasis."

This discovery was made by Lt. Commander David Bunger who was at the
controls of one of six large transport planes used by Admiral Byrd for the
U. S. Navy's `Operation Highjump' (1946-1947). Bunger was flying inland
from
the Shackleton Ice Shelf near Queen Mary Coast of Wilkes Land. He and his
crew were about four miles from the coastline where open water lies.

The land Bunger discovered was ice-free. The lakes were of many different
colors, ranging from rusty red, green to deep blue. Each of the lakes was
more than three miles long. The water was warmer than the ocean, as Bunger
found by landing his seaplane on one of the lakes. Each lake had a gently
sloping beach.

Around the four edges of the oasis, which was roughly square in shape,
Bunger saw endless and eternal white snow and ice. Two sides of the oasis
rose nearly a hundred feet high, and consisted of great ice walls. The
other
two sides had a more gradual and gentle slope.

The existence of such an oasis in the far Antarctic, a land of perpetual
ice, would indicate warmer conditions there, which would exist if the
oasis
was in the south polar opening, leading to the warmer interior of the
earth,
as was the case with the warmer territory, with land and lakes, that
Admiral
Byrd discovered beyond the North Pole, which was probably within the north
polar opening. Otherwise one cannot explain the existence of such an oasis
of unfrozen territory in the midst of the continent of Antarctica with ice
miles thick. The oasis could not result from volcanic activity below the
Earth's surface, for, since the land area of the oasis covered three
hundred
square miles, it was too big to be affected by volcanic heat supply. Warm
wind currents from the Earth's interior are a better explanation.

Thus Byrd in the Arctic and Bunger in the Antarctic both made similar
discoveries of warmer land areas beyond the Poles at about the same time,
early in 1947. But they were not the only ones to make such a discovery.
Some time ago a newspaper in Toronto, Canada, "The Globe and Mail,"
published a photo of a green valley taken by an aviator in the Arctic
region. Evidently the aviator took the picture from the air and did not
attempt to land. It was a beautiful valley and contained rolling green
hills. The aviator must have gone beyond the North Pole into the same
warmer
territory that Admiral Byrd visited, which lies inside the polar opening.
This picture was published in 1960.


Carole
www.conspiracee.com






Timberwoof
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:41 am
Guest
In article
<4815bb1c$0$8128$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:

Quote:
Chapter II
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/admlbyrd.txt

The total surface of the Earth is 197 million square miles and its estimated
weight is six sextillion tons. If the Earth was a solid sphere, its weight
would be much greater. This is one among other scientific evidences of the
fact that the Earth has a hollow interior.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com

Earth ‹ Surface Area: 510,065,600 km^2
That's 1.3 E9 square miles. You're off by a factor of seven.

volume of Earth is 1.083206 E21 m^3 = ~1 E24 liters
mass of Earth = 5.9742 E24 kilograms = ~ 6 E21 tons

6E24 kg / 1E24 liters = density of 6kg/l or 6g/cc which is about the
density of iron.

BTW, you lied. That paragraph does not appear in the web link yo
provided as a reference.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Timberwoof
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:50 am
Guest
In article
<4815b1d3$0$8151$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:

Quote:
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote in message
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In article
48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:

Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one of
her
whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?

Yes.

My father's a geologist. He and his colleagues at the universities where
he taught would know about two things necessary for your wacky
hypothesis.
First, they'd get really strange results out of all their seismic
studies.

There are explanations for how seismic waves might not represent what
they're made out to be.
Mysteries of the Inner Earth
David Pratt - May 2001
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DP5/inner1.htm

I like this part of the objection or seismic evidence:

"The more we learn about the crust and uppermost mantle, the more the
models presented in geological textbooks are exposed as simplistic and
unrealistic."

The hollo-earth hypothesis is vastly more unrealistic. Your expect us to
believe that there are tube-shaped holes that reach from the surface at
the poles to the hollow interior, wide enough for the north and south
ends of the Earth to look "flattened"[1], but without any seismic
evidence for their existence.

How do we know the earth is "flattened at the poles"? Satellite data?
How come no satellites, even privately-owned ones, have seen these
holes. Could you find them on Google Earth?

[1] http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/under012.html
"16.) The earth appears flattened at the poles, which is caused in part
by the existence there of openings into the interior."

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Timberwoof
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:51 am
Guest
In article <d1cRj.5627$ko5.1853@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot@neuf.fr> wrote:

Quote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:03:53 -0700, Timberwoof wrote:

"Finally, Icke summises, along with Arizona Wilder, the possibility that
Princess Diana was pregnant at the time of her murder and that the child
could have been Pindar's rather than that of Dodi Fayed, and the child
was sacrificed in a ritual ceremony.  Diana was sacrificed because she
would not cooperate with the organization."

And you want us to take you seriously?

Even if Diana was pregnant to Pindar that doesn't change a lot in the
grander scheme of things. Diana was probably not directly responsible for
much (if any) tunneling activity. It is also very significant that her
'accident' occurred in a tunnel.

And you want us to take you seriously?

Quote:
WELLDONE! Yep!

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Timberwoof
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:57 am
Guest
In article
<3ca26acf-84a7-4c80-b13a-82a8f4fddcab@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 27, 6:03 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com
wrote:
In article
a88558d2-ee5b-4a36-8ac8-95fdab69a...@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,

BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 27, 1:14 am, "sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-
paul.turcaud...@neuf.fr> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:23:28 -0700, Timberwoof wrote:
How do you know this?

How could you _not_ know is the appropriate question.

Please find below some scholarly articles on the subject.

http://www.freewebs.com/reptoids/undergroundbases.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/pindar.html

Very interesting stuff.

About as "interesting" and scientifically accurate as an episode of
"Lost in Space."

In its day, that was a fairly good program, even mostly based upon the
regular laws of physics, none the less.

Oh, come on! In its day, it completely sucked! "Lost in Space" Physics
is even more off the mark that "Star Trek" Physics. Like some people on
this newsgroup, its writers didn't have a clue about orbital mechanics.
I remember one episode where the young man explained to the family that
unlike a normal planetary orbit (he drew a highly eccentric elliptical
path with a star in the middle), the particular planet they were on was
close to the star at one end of the orbit (he drew another highly
eccentric elliptical path with the star properly at one focus).

And none of this has anything to do with this Hollow Earth nonsense.

BTW, my roommate has been to the North Pole and has been within a few
hundred kilometers of the South. There's no hole like the ones described
here.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Timberwoof
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:03 am
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In article
<90cea4e9-8a12-47f2-953b-8919140f4ffb@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, Timberwoof
timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
In article
4b07d497-e69a-4272-a620-1e084ec9b...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 7:21 pm, "Peter Webb"
I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we
can measure the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in
space (through the orbits of satellites). This puts the average
density of the earth at about (from memory) about 5 tonnes per
cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the earth would have to
be made of a material unknown to science but many times heavier
than Lead or Uranium.

A thick enough inner sphere of magnetic thorium and iron would
more than do the trick, whereas an inner low gravity realm of
perhaps 1280 km diameter (roughly 10% Earth diameter) wouldn't be
so easily detected, if ever.

Why does it have to be magnetic?

That was just a swag, because something within Earth seems magnetic,
and that might as will be this interior sphere of thorium and iron.

Now the Earth is hollow and there's a sphere of thorium and iron in
there.

Quote:
How do you explain the fact that seismic waves don't bounce off the
inner surface and come right back? How do you explain that seismic
waves don't travel through magma the same way as they would through
"magnetic thorium and iron"? How do you explain the wandering
magnetic poles? How do you think the Earth was formed? How do you
reconcile this with your earlier support for an expanding earth?

Why do you keep coming up with so many loaded questions?

Do you mean, "Why do you keep coming back with so many questions that
blow irreparable holes in my flimsy hypothesis"?

Quote:
If I were half as smart as yourself, instead of asking such obviously
loaded questions, instead I'd be sharing my expertise that's
unsurpassed by any known standard.

Well, you are half as smart as me. And instead of asking skeptical
questions, you're ready to swallow any wacky theory that comes your
way.

Quote:
BTW, why is Usenet/groups or yourself intentionally running key words
together with other words (such as "magneticthoriumand") so that a
typical internet 'search for' _magnetic_ thorium wouldn't function?
. - Brad Guth

I don't know. You just wrote it like that; I didn't.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Jim Willemin
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:26 pm
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
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Quote:

"Peter Webb" <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4813e38d$0$13948$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
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"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
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Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with
one of her whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.

snip


But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections
as to why it isn't so.

So happy reading.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why
seismology shows
a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble
explaining why S-
waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to a depth of
roughly
2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at least that
thick.. Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves show a
continuing increase in velocity from there to the center of the
earth, showing that the density of the stuff below 2200 km is
higher than that in the shell above. Further, you should be able
to explain why, if there is a free surface in the interior of the
earth, all seismic waves are not
reflected
from it. Further, you can make your own seismometer and see for
yourself
that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does not muck with seismograms.
You are the one making an extraordinary claim here - it's up to
you to show why
seismograms are really compatible with a hollow shell, despite not
showing
effects which must be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.

I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can
measure the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space
(through the
orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about
(from memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a
shell, the
earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.


Chapter II
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-
Earth
/adml byrd.txt

The total surface of the Earth is 197 million square miles and its
estimated weight is six sextillion tons. If the Earth was a solid
sphere, its weight would be much greater. This is one among other
scientific evidences of the fact that the Earth has a hollow interior.

Carole
www.conspiracee.com



Carole, dear heart, do some math for yourself rather than parrot
silliness. The volume of a solid spheroid the size and shape of the
earth is about 10^21 cubic meters. OK so far? Good. Now, the mantle
seems to be made of olivine, which weighs about 3,300 kilograms per
cubic meter. Crustal rocks like granite weigh less, like 2,700
kilograms per cubic meter. OK so far? Good. Now, let's just guess
that the earth is composed of olivine - after all, it is one of the
densest silicate minerals. OK. A solid ball of olivine with the same
volume as the earth would weigh

(3.3 x 10^3 kg/m^3) x (10^21 m^3) = 3.3 x 10^24 kg = 3.3 sextillion
tonnes.

Mass of the earth: roughly 6 x 10^24 kg.

Notice that a solid ball the size of the earth, consisting of one of the
densest silicate minerals around, weighs slightly more than half as much
as the earth itself. This means that the earth is roughly twice as
heavy as it should be, if it was made of nothing but rock. Let me say
this again: The earth is TOO HEAVY for its size, not too light. I'm
really ashamed of you for not figuring this out on your own. All the
information is readily available, all you need to do is the math, and
only multiplication at that.

Please, before you cut and paste more drivel, do a little checking, OK?
Remember, just because a hypothesis is ridiculed by mainstream science
doesn't mean that hypothesis is right.
Benj
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:16 pm
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On Apr 26, 4:40 pm, "John Kepler" <jekep...@amplex.net> wrote:

Quote:
For all you "Grand Conspiricy Theorists". Please remember that Jesus had a
"conspiracy" limited to 12 people, hand picked by God......one of them was a
paid government informant, and 4 of the others wrote "tell-all" books about
it! If more than 3 people know about it, you can bet your ass at least two
of them are telling someone else!

John you are a loon and so stupid as to be ridiculous even by the low
standards in this group!

1. The idea that somehow someone is ALWAYS going to tell about a
conspiracy is moronic. The higher the conspiracy, the MORE MORONIC it
is! The whole purpose of a conspiracy is to get away with deception.
People who do this are VERY clever, Very imaginative, and completely
without morality or ethics. Usually they are politicians which means
they are expert liars as well. So you are going to stand there with a
straight face and tell us that a conspiracy backed by all the money,
power and personnel of the government (or other major power grouping)
that is willing to simply kill anyone who crosses them, who controls
all the media everything released publically about it can't keep
something secret? Just how stupid are you? Gosh heard anything about
the drug traffic in Mena ARk. lately? Must mean that nothing ever
went on there!

Quote:
"Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity." N.
Bonaparte

Right.
2. And Napoleon wasn't a politician and Dubya only knows what he reads
in the papers too!

Just who do you think you are fooling?
 
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