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| BDK |
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:39 pm |
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In article <4fh91497meq63ad8su8gglm7m1h7ubcdra@4ax.com>,
gov.shill@gmail.com says...
Quote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:00:06 -0400, BDK <BDK@magicsteel.com> wrote:
In article <ocb814po6iret9kg4f0c903r7emss0mjsr@4ax.com>,
gov.shill@gmail.com says...
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:18:21 -0400, BDK <BDK@magicsteel.com> wrote:
In article <48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, hubbca@iimetro.com.au says...
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one of her
whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.
However, the more I read about the hollow earth theory the more convinced I
am that there is a huge coverup -- so what's news considering how much lies
and propaganda there is in every field of human endeavour -- medicine,
science, military, economy and not to forget history. It seems the lies
never end, the more you dig the more lies there are. its just layer upon
layer like a sarah what's-her-name cheesecake -- just lies, garbage and
junk.
A person has to be a hardy soul and persistent to sort out the truth from
the crap, what they want us to believe.
Information is power and they want to keep people enfeebled, they treat them
like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on excrement.
There are some marvellous online sources for this topic, one of the main
ones being Admiral Byrd's flight into the gap at the north pole (but there
really isn't a north pole as such).
Also Admiral Byrd later flew on a mission to the south pole and there is
some funny stuff going on there too.
One of the good sources on this topic is at
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt
he Greatest Geographical Discovery in History
Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles
The True Origin of the Flying Saucers
By Dr. Raymond Bernard A.B., M.A. Ph.D.
But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as to why
it isn't so.
So happy reading.
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Are you Mrs. Brad Guth?
.au email address. Mrs Jake McCrann? Same ISP as Seon. Shudder!
Shill #2
ROTFL, is there something going on over there you Aussies aren't telling
us?
The trouble is... I'm not there to supervise them.
Are we, (the USA) going to lose our title as the #1 source of kooks on
the planet?
Damn!
Seon's working on taking your (the USA's) spot on the dais.
All by himself? Damn! The kook IS strong in him!
BDK
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Shill #2
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I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:48 pm |
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Carole wrote:
Quote: We know virtually nothing about what goes on under the ground except what
they want us to know.
I was in the hollow earth yesterday. Twice. Once at about 10 a.m. and
again about 6:30 at about Lat. 39 N., Long 92 W. We found no reptoids,
but a couple amphiboids and batoids and insectoids. One human was laden
with chocks, pitons, harness, figure 8s and rope and a couple where in
green camo. My husband had on Nam-era jungle boots, but these were the
closest we came to a military base, even though one part of the hollow
earth was the subbasement of a castle-like lodge.
You want to find out what happens under the earth? Go there and take a
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:41 pm |
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On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
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Quote: In article
4b07d497-e69a-4272-a620-1e084ec9b...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 7:21 pm, "Peter Webb"
I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.
A thick enough inner sphere of magnetic thorium and iron would more
than do the trick, whereas an inner low gravity realm of perhaps 1280
km diameter (roughly 10% Earth diameter) wouldn't be so easily
detected, if ever.
Why does it have to be magnetic?
That was just a swag, because something within Earth seems magnetic,
and that might as will be this interior sphere of thorium and iron.
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How do you explain the fact that seismic waves don't bounce off the
inner surface and come right back? How do you explain that seismic waves
don't travel through magma the same way as they would through "magnetic thorium and iron"? How do you explain the wandering magnetic poles? How
do you think the Earth was formed? How do you reconcile this with your
earlier support for an expanding earth?
Why do you keep coming up with so many loaded questions?
If I were half as smart as yourself, instead of asking such obviously
loaded questions, instead I'd be sharing my expertise that's
unsurpassed by any known standard.
BTW, why is Usenet/groups or yourself intentionally running key words
together with other words (such as "magneticthoriumand") so that a
typical internet 'search for' _magnetic_ thorium wouldn't function?
.. - Brad Guth |
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:47 pm |
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On Apr 27, 6:03 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
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In its day, that was a fairly good program, even mostly based upon the
regular laws of physics, none the less.
.. - Brad Guth |
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:55 pm |
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In article
<4b07d497-e69a-4272-a620-1e084ec9be62@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 26, 7:21 pm, "Peter Webb"
I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium.
A thick enough inner sphere of magnetic thorium and iron would more
than do the trick, whereas an inner low gravity realm of perhaps 1280
km diameter (roughly 10% Earth diameter) wouldn't be so easily
detected, if ever.
Why does it have to be magnetic?
How do you explain the fact that seismic waves don't bounce off the
inner surface and come right back? How do you explain that seismic waves
don't travel through magma the same way as they would through "magnetic
thorium and iron"? How do you explain the wandering magnetic poles? How
do you think the Earth was formed? How do you reconcile this with your
earlier support for an expanding earth?
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| Timberwoof |
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:55 pm |
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In article
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BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 26, 7:05 pm, "sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-
paul.turcaud...@neuf.fr> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:55:21 -0500, Jim Willemin wrote:
OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble
explaining why S- waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to
a depth of roughly 2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at
least that thick.. Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves
show a continuing increase in velocity from there to the center of the
earth, showing that the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher
than that in the shell above. Further, you should be able to explain
why, if there is a free surface in the interior of the earth, all
seismic waves are not reflected from it. Further, you can make your own
seismometer and see for yourself that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does
not muck with seismograms. You are the one making an extraordinary
claim here - it's up to you to show why seismograms are really
compatible with a hollow shell, despite not showing effects which must
be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.
The reptoids have installed physical modeling transducers in the ceiling
area of the hollow core. These modeling transducers intercept and modify
the seismic waves in order to emulate the behaviour of a solid cored
planet.
Rather basic really.
I like it. It's works for me, as well as explains as to where folks
must have recently vanished (perhaps for harvesting their living
organs).
There's certainly no shortage of local energy, minerals or even water
in order to accomplish anything their Earth core dwelling hearts
desire.
IOW, magic. Any physical effect that shows otherwise is, without
evidence, ascribed to a superior technology indistinguishable from
magic.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:58 pm |
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In article
<2d245ea4-7873-4bdb-b203-017ccb3abbb3@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 26, 8:41 pm, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote
innews:timberwoof.spam-0837BD.13312426042008@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net:
I think that all these rumors about a conspiracy are a conspiracy.
There's no conspiracy. There's just this secret committee that sits
around and makes up silly ideas like hollow earth, expanding earth, and
hollow expanding earth and propagates them to their minions so they in
turn can pretend they're "in the know" about super secret stuff that
nobody knows anything about. Then they put it all on the Interweb so
everyone can read all this secret knowledge.
Now THAT is a theory I can support!
Brian
--http://www.skywise711.com- Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ:http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions":http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
It's the traditional form of a well established brown-nosed clownism
theory, of artificially packing the crowd and otherwise stacking the
deck in your favor.
This method has worked like a charm for thousands of years, and it's
still a No.1 priority method used to day by most governments,
corporations and of their faith-basted puppeteers.
Most topics by far are in fact entirely bogus, as well as bogus
contributed to and bogus otherwise as having been created and
sustained along by way of those having bogus Usenet/Group IDs.
Perhaps as much as 99.9% of Usenet/Groups is bogus, as fully intended
by way of DARPA and other cloak and dagger policy.
The hollow earth topic is bogus.
No one from DARPA has ever contacted me to tell me to try to hush your
silly little theories. One doesn't need a conspiracy theory to show that
they're silly and that anyone who believes them is a little off his
rocker.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:03 pm |
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In article
<a88558d2-ee5b-4a36-8ac8-95fdab69ac27@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:
About as "interesting" and scientifically accurate as an episode of
"Lost in Space."
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:03 pm |
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In article <sBWQj.5424$ko5.4805@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot@neuf.fr> wrote:
Supposedly about ...
Quote: The reptoids have installed physical modeling transducers in the ceiling
area of the hollow core. These modeling transducers intercept and modify
the seismic waves in order to emulate the behaviour of a solid cored
planet.
Hah.
"Finally, Icke summises, along with Arizona Wilder, the possibility that
Princess Diana was pregnant at the time of her murder and that the child
could have been Pindar's rather than that of Dodi Fayed, and the child
was sacrificed in a ritual ceremony. Diana was sacrificed because she
would not cooperate with the organization."
And you want us to take you seriously?
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:06 pm |
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In article
<ea55ff9b-11b4-49ad-a156-08990d1af8e6@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On 27 Apr, 08:20, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com
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Carole, we're serious about this.
You have a computer. You can build your own seismometer. (You should
build your own instead of getting a "real" one. You could build it from
a kit: that way you can examine all the parts and confirm that it works
as advertised.) Gather your own data. Think about what seismic waves
should look like when they come from earthquakes in various different
places in the world, both with and without a hollow Earth. Compare the
data with your hypotheses and come to your own conclusions.
But there is one reason why you should NOT build your own seismometer.
As long as you have not gathered and analyzed your own data, you can, in
ignorance, believe whatever you want about the "secrets" of the interior
of the Earth. If you build a seismometer, you will have to come the
conclusion that the Earth is solid (as in not hollow) and abandon your
hollow-earth hypothesis.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ÐChris L.- Hide quoted text -
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At least the lady recognises a spherical Earth,sad to say that
'convection cell' mechansim for crustal motion does not require
neither the Earth to be round nor rotating.
I may be dismayed that plate tectonics has fallen from an excellent
foundation for geological evolution to a status which is even lower
than a hollow Earth theory and all because nobody has enough sense to
look at geodynamics or comparable celestial dynamics based on
rotation.
There is a slight welling up of disgust ,not just in this matter,but
in the way people approach topics and the material under discussion
but I am hopeful that there are a few who care enough about geology to
make a move to a more balanced view which includes geodynamics.
Yeah, the Earth spins and this makes it oblate. Remarkably, if one
assumes that it is made of granite and basalt with an iron core and then
predicted the amount of oblateness, one would come up with the currently
measured numbers.
But none of this has anything to do with the fact that Carole should
build a seismometer and do her own investigations into whether the Earth
is hollow.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:40 pm |
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BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2d245ea4-7873-4bdb-b203-017ccb3abbb3@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Quote: Most topics by far are in fact entirely bogus, as well as bogus
contributed to and bogus otherwise as having been created and
sustained along by way of those having bogus Usenet/Group IDs.
Like EE? And it's adherents? You mean the whole thing is a lie?
and that those pushing it have a hidden agenda?
Oh my!!! It's all a conspiracy!!!
And to think I actually thought they were serious. They don't
actually believe this crap. They're just trying to divert us all
from the truth using disinformation tactics.
Brian
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:04 pm |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:03:53 -0700, Timberwoof wrote:
Quote: "Finally, Icke summises, along with Arizona Wilder, the possibility that
Princess Diana was pregnant at the time of her murder and that the child
could have been Pindar's rather than that of Dodi Fayed, and the child
was sacrificed in a ritual ceremony. Diana was sacrificed because she
would not cooperate with the organization."
And you want us to take you seriously?
Even if Diana was pregnant to Pindar that doesn't change a lot in the
grander scheme of things. Diana was probably not directly responsible for
much (if any) tunneling activity. It is also very significant that her
'accident' occurred in a tunnel.
WELLDONE! Yep! |
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:20 pm |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:01:36 -0400, BDK wrote:
Quote: Is "WELLDONE" what the cannibal said when he cooked your brain and had
it for dinner?
BDK
Is BDK shorthand for Bee Dick?
WELLDONE! Yep! |
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| Carole |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:15 am |
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"Timberwoof" <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof.spam-0837BD.13312426042008@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net...
Quote: In article
48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one of
her
whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes.
My father's a geologist. He and his colleagues at the universities where
he taught would know about two things necessary for your wacky
hypothesis.
First, they'd get really strange results out of all their seismic
studies.
There are explanations for how seismic waves might not represent what
they're made out to be.
Mysteries of the Inner Earth
David Pratt - May 2001
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DP5/inner1.htm
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Quote: Second, they'd get really annoyed at the conspiracy-enforcers who'd have
to drop by their offices to threaten them every time they published
papers that showed what was really going on.
My roommate has been to the north pole. He flew over it in an airplane,
then jumped out, back when there was still enough ice for that to be
relatively safe. There's no hole there. No one from The Conspiracy
contacted him or anyone else on the trip. He's been to Antarctica, too.
Nothing strange there except that the Ceremonial South Pole isn't at the
geographic south pole any more.
I think that all these rumors about a conspiracy are a conspiracy.
There's no conspiracy. There's just this secret committee that sits
around and makes up silly ideas like hollow earth, expanding earth, and
hollow expanding earth and propagates them to their minions so they in
turn can pretend they're "in the know" about super secret stuff that
nobody knows anything about. Then they put it all on the Interweb so
everyone can read all this secret knowledge.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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| Carole |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:27 am |
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"sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot@neuf.fr> wrote in
message news:u7RQj.5329$ko5.4411@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Quote: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:49:56 +1000, Carole wrote:
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Lady Carole, thank you for your most gracious input on this topic. Those
brain dedz goologoosts don't know everything there is to know about the
Earth - witness they have gotten glaziationz, tsunameez, volcanizm and
continental raftingz all wrong.
As for the DUMBS these are a part of a much larger conspiracee involving
Reptoid colonies ( http://www.reptoids.com/ ). The military is actually
under the control of Winged Dracos. BTW they are responsible for most of
the cattle mutilations that we see today and I suspect as well, the
escalating price of rice.
I believe the bit about subterannean tunnels which connect countries.
Tibet and Brazil are a couple of entrances, Giza, Dulce, many more.
Quote:
Did you hear about the reptoid complex that was discovered during the
construction of the Sydney harbour tunnel? Didn't think so, as it was
treated as a matter of utmost national security. Don't take my word for
it, next time you drive through the Sydney harbour tunnel, stop your car
at the midpoint and see how long you last before the tunnel security
folks come and bundle you up.
They'd bundle you up because you'd be holding the traffic up, besides
anything else.
Carole
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