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| sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:00 pm |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:49:56 +1000, Carole wrote:
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Lady Carole, thank you for your most gracious input on this topic. Those
brain dedz goologoosts don't know everything there is to know about the
Earth - witness they have gotten glaziationz, tsunameez, volcanizm and
continental raftingz all wrong.
As for the DUMBS these are a part of a much larger conspiracee involving
Reptoid colonies ( http://www.reptoids.com/ ). The military is actually
under the control of Winged Dracos. BTW they are responsible for most of
the cattle mutilations that we see today and I suspect as well, the
escalating price of rice.
Did you hear about the reptoid complex that was discovered during the
construction of the Sydney harbour tunnel? Didn't think so, as it was
treated as a matter of utmost national security. Don't take my word for
it, next time you drive through the Sydney harbour tunnel, stop your car
at the midpoint and see how long you last before the tunnel security
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| sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:05 pm |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:55:21 -0500, Jim Willemin wrote:
Quote: OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble
explaining why S- waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to
a depth of roughly 2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at
least that thick.. Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves
show a continuing increase in velocity from there to the center of the
earth, showing that the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher
than that in the shell above. Further, you should be able to explain
why, if there is a free surface in the interior of the earth, all
seismic waves are not reflected from it. Further, you can make your own
seismometer and see for yourself that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does
not muck with seismograms. You are the one making an extraordinary
claim here - it's up to you to show why seismograms are really
compatible with a hollow shell, despite not showing effects which must
be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.
The reptoids have installed physical modeling transducers in the ceiling
area of the hollow core. These modeling transducers intercept and modify
the seismic waves in order to emulate the behaviour of a solid cored
planet.
Rather basic really. |
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| Timberwoof |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:11 pm |
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In article
<4813a384$0$1588$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
Quote: "John Kepler" <jekepler@amplex.net> wrote in message
news:48139158_1@nntp2.nac.net...
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with
one of her whacky theories.
You said it, not me!
But is it really so whacky?
Yes.....yes it is! Next question?
John
Yes, but you're all so predictable, so mind controlled, so under the
thumb as it were. What good little new world order subjects ...just
the way you were meant to be. They have written and ok'd all the
science books, all the geology books and created all the "approved"
theories for centuries.
So you think you can get is to listen to you as though you are a
rational person by starting out a post with a diatribe about how we're
all brainwashed?
Quote: I can guarantee you that not one of you has
actually read anything on the hollow earth theory, and why proponents
think its hollow.
That's a fair bet. Mostly because it isn't hollow and no one can sum up
in just a paragraph the evidence that it is. In fact, I bet you can't
sum up the evidence in a post that doesn't also wander off into the
weeds about scientific conspiracy theories.
Quote: For one thing, there is NO north or south pole. The point where the
compass points downward is a big circle 1000 km or so in
circumference -- so its not a point but an actual line or a magnetic
circle. The slope that goes into the hole at the north pole graduates
so slightly that people don't notice when they're in it.
So you're telling us that you don't understand the difference between
the north magnetic pole and the north geographic pole, right?
Quote: The aurora boralis is the light from the inner sun which gets broken
up like a prism when it shines through the fog in the hole.
I'll grant you that not many people know that. And here I always thought
that it was caused by charged particles form the sun being diverted in
their paths by the magnetic field of the Earth and hitting particles in
the atmosphere, and emitting light. That explanation actually makes
sense because all of the component parts can be replicated in a
laboratory ... unlike the flight of fantasy you presented.
I'm confused about what's supposed to bend the path of the light. I'm
also confused about all this fog "in the hole" when the Aurora Borealis
and Aurora Australis appears up in the sky.
Quote: Other
facts are that when explorers go past a certain latitude 75 deg or
whatever,
You don't seem sure of your facts.
Quote: the temperature begins to warm up and many explorers have
noticed that.
They have? Do you have any references to that effect? Can you explain
why my roommate, who has been to the north pole and to within a could
hundred kilometers of the south, noticed an increase in temperature only
after he donned his arctic survival suit?
Quote: Also as you go north there are insects, pollen, and
bird life.
And as you go farther north, there's less.
Quote: Do some reading. I dare you.
Build yourself a seismometer. I dare you.
Quote: And what does anybody actually know about all the DUMBS (deep
underground military bases) around the world which amount to well
over 100. What goes on in them? We know virtually nothing about what
goes on under the ground except what they want us to know.
And this has to do with hollow earth what, exactly?
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| fasgnadh |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:14 pm |
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| Peter Webb |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:21 pm |
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"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A8CDF00F38A8jimwillemingmailcom@216.196.97.131...
Quote: "Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in
news:48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one
of her whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.
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But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as
to why it isn't so.
So happy reading.
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows
a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble explaining why
S-
waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to a depth of roughly
2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at least that thick..
Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves show a continuing
increase in velocity from there to the center of the earth, showing that
the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher than that in the shell
above. Further, you should be able to explain why, if there is a free
surface in the interior of the earth, all seismic waves are not reflected
from it. Further, you can make your own seismometer and see for yourself
that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does not muck with seismograms. You
are the one making an extraordinary claim here - it's up to you to show
why
seismograms are really compatible with a hollow shell, despite not showing
effects which must be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.
I might also add that we know the mass of the earth because we can measure
the force of gravity on the earth's surface and in space (through the orbits
of satellites). This puts the average density of the earth at about (from
memory) about 5 tonnes per cubic meter. If this was just a shell, the earth
would have to be made of a material unknown to science but many times
heavier than Lead or Uranium. |
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| fasgnadh |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:26 pm |
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:45 pm |
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:09 pm |
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On 2008-04-26 11:49:56 -1000, "Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> said:
Quote: We know virtually nothing about what goes on under the ground except what
they want us to know.
No, you know nothing about what goes on under the ground because you
haven't bothered to look. Nobody can hide seismic waves. You can
collect a worldwide suite of seismograms after any largish earthquake
from a variety of web sites and go ahead and perform the analysis
yourself. Better yet, google "homemade seismometer" and build your own
instrument. After a few months with just your own single instrument
you'll have enough information from different earthquakes to deduce a
pretty good Earth model (admittedly it would be radially symmetric, but
that's adequate to disprove the hollow Earth). I recommend that you not
look at any seismology texts beforehand (after all, you do not want to
be tainted by the "conspiracy")---just work out how to analyse the data
yourself from first principles---it's simple enough. |
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| Skywise |
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:41 pm |
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Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote in
news:timberwoof.spam-0837BD.13312426042008@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net:
Quote: I think that all these rumors about a conspiracy are a conspiracy.
There's no conspiracy. There's just this secret committee that sits
around and makes up silly ideas like hollow earth, expanding earth, and
hollow expanding earth and propagates them to their minions so they in
turn can pretend they're "in the know" about super secret stuff that
nobody knows anything about. Then they put it all on the Interweb so
everyone can read all this secret knowledge.
Now THAT is a theory I can support!
Brian
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http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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| Sunny |
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:20 am |
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| Good Morning Lady Carole,
| 4) Last but not least the evident conspiracy of thousand of World
| Class Cretins, blurring the understanding of Earth & Humanity
| History since over 2 centuries through what is known as the Oxford
| University based present Official Geology
| Founder and sole member of the True Geology :
Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, August 2000
Kook of the Month, August 2001
Looney Maroon Award, August 2001
George Pickett Memorial Trophy Award August 2007
Unabomber Surprise runner up August 2007
Wannabe Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer of low grade copper ore
Sad embarrassment to all of France **
Inventor of UPL - Useless Pontificating Lunatic
DDD - Demented Delusional Drivel
Insane Celtic Lunatic
Self confessed farmer murderer
Psychotic French Spamming Twit
Failed Prediction Nutcase
Failed Drought Maker
Fraud water expert
Fraud Knight
Fraud Healer of all diseases
Fraud weather controller |
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| Timberwoof |
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:20 am |
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In article <4813ee52$0$30173$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Gerard Fryer
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Quote: On 2008-04-26 11:49:56 -1000, "Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> said:
We know virtually nothing about what goes on under the ground except what
they want us to know.
No, you know nothing about what goes on under the ground because you
haven't bothered to look. Nobody can hide seismic waves. You can
collect a worldwide suite of seismograms after any largish earthquake
from a variety of web sites and go ahead and perform the analysis
yourself. Better yet, google "homemade seismometer" and build your own
instrument. After a few months with just your own single instrument
you'll have enough information from different earthquakes to deduce a
pretty good Earth model (admittedly it would be radially symmetric, but
that's adequate to disprove the hollow Earth). I recommend that you not
look at any seismology texts beforehand (after all, you do not want to
be tainted by the "conspiracy")---just work out how to analyse the data
yourself from first principles---it's simple enough.
Carole, we're serious about this.
You have a computer. You can build your own seismometer. (You should
build your own instead of getting a "real" one. You could build it from
a kit: that way you can examine all the parts and confirm that it works
as advertised.) Gather your own data. Think about what seismic waves
should look like when they come from earthquakes in various different
places in the world, both with and without a hollow Earth. Compare the
data with your hypotheses and come to your own conclusions.
But there is one reason why you should NOT build your own seismometer.
As long as you have not gathered and analyzed your own data, you can, in
ignorance, believe whatever you want about the "secrets" of the interior
of the Earth. If you build a seismometer, you will have to come the
conclusion that the Earth is solid (as in not hollow) and abandon your
hollow-earth hypothesis.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:23 am |
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In article <IbRQj.5331$ko5.2630@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" <sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot@neuf.fr> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:55:21 -0500, Jim Willemin wrote:
OK, Carole, then you should have no trouble explaining why seismology
shows a solid earth. In particular, you should have no trouble
explaining why S- waves show generally increasing velocity with depth to
a depth of roughly 2200 km, showing that the shell of the earth is at
least that thick.. Further, you should be able to explain why P-waves
show a continuing increase in velocity from there to the center of the
earth, showing that the density of the stuff below 2200 km is higher
than that in the shell above. Further, you should be able to explain
why, if there is a free surface in the interior of the earth, all
seismic waves are not reflected from it. Further, you can make your own
seismometer and see for yourself that the Secret Hollow-Earth Cabal does
not muck with seismograms. You are the one making an extraordinary
claim here - it's up to you to show why seismograms are really
compatible with a hollow shell, despite not showing effects which must
be there if the hollow earth hypothesis is true.
The reptoids have installed physical modeling transducers in the ceiling
area of the hollow core. These modeling transducers intercept and modify
the seismic waves in order to emulate the behaviour of a solid cored
planet.
Rather basic really.
How do you know this?
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:39 am |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:18:21 -0400, BDK <BDK@magicsteel.com> wrote:
Quote: In article <48137c5c$0$1604$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, hubbca@iimetro.com.au says...
Yes, I know what you're going to say ... gere she goes again with one of her
whacky theories.
But is it really so whacky?
Yes, I would have thought so at one time and anybody who suggested
differently was fit for a straight jacket in my mind.
However, the more I read about the hollow earth theory the more convinced I
am that there is a huge coverup -- so what's news considering how much lies
and propaganda there is in every field of human endeavour -- medicine,
science, military, economy and not to forget history. It seems the lies
never end, the more you dig the more lies there are. its just layer upon
layer like a sarah what's-her-name cheesecake -- just lies, garbage and
junk.
A person has to be a hardy soul and persistent to sort out the truth from
the crap, what they want us to believe.
Information is power and they want to keep people enfeebled, they treat them
like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on excrement.
There are some marvellous online sources for this topic, one of the main
ones being Admiral Byrd's flight into the gap at the north pole (but there
really isn't a north pole as such).
Also Admiral Byrd later flew on a mission to the south pole and there is
some funny stuff going on there too.
One of the good sources on this topic is at
THE HOLLOW EARTH
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Underground-Bases/Hollow-Earth/adml
byrd.txt
he Greatest Geographical Discovery in History
Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles
The True Origin of the Flying Saucers
By Dr. Raymond Bernard A.B., M.A. Ph.D.
But there are heaps more, including answers to all the objections as to why
it isn't so.
So happy reading.
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Are you Mrs. Brad Guth?
..au email address. Mrs Jake McCrann? Same ISP as Seon. Shudder!
Shill #2
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:56 am |
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On 27 Apr, 08:20, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
wrote:
Quote: In article <4813ee52$0$30173$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, Gerard Fryer
wrote:
On 2008-04-26 11:49:56 -1000, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> said:
We know virtually nothing about what goes on under the ground except what
they want us to know.
No, you know nothing about what goes on under the ground because you
haven't bothered to look. Nobody can hide seismic waves. You can
collect a worldwide suite of seismograms after any largish earthquake
from a variety of web sites and go ahead and perform the analysis
yourself. Better yet, google "homemade seismometer" and build your own
instrument. After a few months with just your own single instrument
you'll have enough information from different earthquakes to deduce a
pretty good Earth model (admittedly it would be radially symmetric, but
that's adequate to disprove the hollow Earth). I recommend that you not
look at any seismology texts beforehand (after all, you do not want to
be tainted by the "conspiracy")---just work out how to analyse the data
yourself from first principles---it's simple enough.
Carole, we're serious about this.
You have a computer. You can build your own seismometer. (You should
build your own instead of getting a "real" one. You could build it from
a kit: that way you can examine all the parts and confirm that it works
as advertised.) Gather your own data. Think about what seismic waves
should look like when they come from earthquakes in various different
places in the world, both with and without a hollow Earth. Compare the
data with your hypotheses and come to your own conclusions.
But there is one reason why you should NOT build your own seismometer.
As long as you have not gathered and analyzed your own data, you can, in
ignorance, believe whatever you want about the "secrets" of the interior
of the Earth. If you build a seismometer, you will have to come the
conclusion that the Earth is solid (as in not hollow) and abandon your
hollow-earth hypothesis.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At least the lady recognises a spherical Earth,sad to say that
'convection cell' mechansim for crustal motion does not require
neither the Earth to be round nor rotating.
I may be dismayed that plate tectonics has fallen from an excellent
foundation for geological evolution to a status which is even lower
than a hollow Earth theory and all because nobody has enough sense to
look at geodynamics or comparable celestial dynamics based on
rotation.
There is a slight welling up of disgust ,not just in this matter,but
in the way people approach topics and the material under discussion
but I am hopeful that there are a few who care enough about geology to
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