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jgarbuz
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:28 pm
Guest
On Apr 26, 4:08 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
Quote:
jgarbuzwrote:
On Apr 26, 1:29 am, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:


The reason why the money supply was put into the hands of a semi-
autonomous agency such as the Federal Reserve, which is the US Central
Bank, was to control the impulse of government to print too much paper
money.

Nope.. It was set up to allow such, to happen. Keep in mind that it was
a corporate America boondoggle. Very little real Government input in
it..And it was passed quitely and quickly in the wee hours of the
morning.

Lots of shit happens in the wee hours of the morning. They slipped in
women's voting rights and the income tax when no one was looking
during WWI. Whaddya gonna do?


Many Newspapers were not even aware of it until weeks later.
Quote:
The General public still had faith in gold backing and had no idea of
the terrible implications of what we have today.

Well, we all know the dollar today can only buy what a penny bought
before WWI. The value of the dollar fell by 99% in the last century
or so. OTOH, there isn't enough gold in the universe to back the
amount of business that goes on today. You see, from Roman times until
maybe the 18th century, the population of the planet remained pretty
static, as did business. The world only reached a billion people
around 1800. Today it's going on 7 billion. Most of that growth has
been in the last century. But more important, since mass manufacturing
came into existence, and people no longer grew their own food, or made
their own clothes, etc., and had to buy almost everything, people
needed money. Something they didn't really need or have down on the
farm. But there wasn't enough gold or silver ("money") to go
around,even with all the gold rushes put together. And so scrip paper
backed by the "good faith" of the gov't (taxes) had to replace lucre
as common medium of exchange. And the supply of that money had to be
controlled by a more impartial agency than the gov't itself. That's
why central banks came into existence. A little over a century ago,
any factory could print its own paper scrip and give it to its
workers, which they would have to spend in company stores.
Eventually, it became clear that the gov't had to monopolize the
issuing of money, and not every Tom, Dick and Harry with a factory.
But someone had to control the gov't from going wild with that power.
And that is why the Central Bank, or "Federal Reserve" bank was
created, and naturally bankers were used to sit on the board of the
Reserve. Of course, anyone near a register or a cookie jar can
sometimes find a way to manipulate things, but there was no choice.

Quote:
It was also to reduce bank failures and losses to depositors, which
was all too common in the 19th century. Now people are people, and
cunning people will always find new ways to "game" the system, no
matter what that system is.
So what exactly was this Paul Warburg "banking scam?" Never heard of
it.

You have got to be kidding me .. Paul Warburg owned the Federal Reserve
Central bank in Berlin and was one of the planners of the Federal
reserve system at Jekyll Island in 1913.

So? Bill Gates controls the shitty OS I have to use and fucks me
constantly. I still don't really know what you're talking about. What
I do know is that prior to WWI, the US was a debtor nation indebted to
European banks and countries the same way the US is indebted to China
and Japan today. But thank to the Europeans destroying themselves
during WWI and WWII, the US, unscathed, emerged as the wealthy banker
to the world.. But no more. Thanks to dogmatic Republican policies,
they've run the country's finances into the ground. While I have been
pro-Republican on social issues, they have proven disastrous when it
comes to finances. Anyhow, these crazy conspiracy theories about the
Federal Reserve Bank, and all of these wacky, 19th century laissez
faire ideas promoted by Ron Paul are nuts. Anyone who wants to go back
to the 19th century is welcome to do so.The way things are going,
it'll become like Gaza soon in America and we'll have to go back to
riding donkeys too. I'm sure Ron Paul will be happy to get back to
horse and buggy days.
BradGuth
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:42 pm
Guest
On Apr 26, 2:59 pm, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 26, 8:10 am,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:

On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

,,,
.

"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.

"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”

the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st

Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth

Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?

Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?

Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.

Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.

Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth

What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?

How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates

Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.

. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next

For example?

Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?

Which temple is that now? I can't take the time out to read every
ridiculous conspiracy fable out there, but you can summarize it for me
if you wish.

What do you know about DARPA

A lot. A bunch of very smart people working over there.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?

There was a semitic Third Reich too? Did it last as long as Hitler's,
or about a dozen years? What is it, the Islamic Third Caliphate? You
can fill me in on that one too.

You have been off-world for how long?

There's no such thing as terrestrial government without its faith-
based puppet-masters in charge of most everything that matters.

BTW, how far could the likes of Hitler have gotten w/o them smart
Jews? or are you going to suggest it was those smarter Muslims giving
warlord Hitler whatever physics and science he needed?
. - Brad Guth
Don Ocean
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:08 pm
Guest
jgarbuz wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 1:29 am, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
jgarbuzwrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about the United States Treasury? Or would that conflict with the
Paul Warburg Banking scam?

The reason why the money supply was put into the hands of a semi-
autonomous agency such as the Federal Reserve, which is the US Central
Bank, was to control the impulse of government to print too much paper
money.

Nope.. It was set up to allow such, to happen. Keep in mind that it was
a corporate America boondoggle. Very little real Government input in
it..And it was passed quitely and quickly in the wee hours of the
morning. Many Newspapers were not even aware of it until weeks later.
The General public still had faith in gold backing and had no idea of
the terrible implications of what we have today.

Quote:
It was also to reduce bank failures and losses to depositors, which
was all too common in the 19th century. Now people are people, and
cunning people will always find new ways to "game" the system, no
matter what that system is.
So what exactly was this Paul Warburg "banking scam?" Never heard of
it.

You have got to be kidding me .. Paul Warburg owned the Federal Reserve
Central bank in Berlin and was one of the planners of the Federal
reserve system at Jekyll Island in 1913.

>
Don Ocean
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:16 pm
Guest
BradGuth wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 8:10 am, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates
Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.

. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next
For example?

Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?

What temple? Masons, Illuminati..They are just illusions and some are
just a bunch of overweight old men trying to do some charity work in
this world. Masons have the Shriners circus's to raise money for the 23
Children's Burns and Orthopedic Hospitals.

Quote:

What do you know about DARPA

This is a bit confusing. What on earth does DARPA have to do with the
Federal reserve. DARPA is a military research organization that
developed our Internet from the seed that Cern started in Switzerland.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?

You mean ZionNazi Israel?

> . - Brad Guth
Don Ocean
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:24 pm
Guest
jgarbuz wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:



On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.

I didn't know Hearst or Murdoch or Ted Turner were Jews.

I suggest that you read the history of Moses Annenburg and his son
Walter. Rupert Murdoch is definetly a Jew.. Albeit an American Jew for
th most part.

Hearst was the catylist for the Annenburg Media empire.

Ted Turner was outed by an unfriendly Jewish takeover. He has a place
about 100 miles from here and drops into town from time to time.
He now owns over 2 million acres of America that he is turning back to
nature and populating with the native animals..including Buffalo.

If Jews did
Quote:
achieve some prominence media businesses earlier on, it was only
because up to a century or two ago, Jews were the most literate people
on earth, while most people were unschooled illiterate peasants.
Naturally, if your people can read or write, they have leg up in the
development of any business that's dependent on reading and writing.
But such advantages are long gone, and so other people capable of
reading and writing have made large inroads Smile I bet neither Ted
Turner's or Murdoch's great grandparents could read.

Again Murdoch is a Jew and I think I read somewhere that his father
dealt in repairing thrown away items..
Saul Levy
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:51 pm
Guest
Ug99? That's a Jewish name, isn't it? It must be another conspiracy
from the YIDS, WartPiggies! lmfjao!

As long as it stays in Africa we'll be O.K. Then we will send all of
our wheat to Africa! OOPSIE!

The article below agrees with me:

"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem."

See I told you it was all politics!

Saul Levy


On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:03 a.m. EDT
On top of record-breaking rice prices and corn through the roof on
ethanol demand, wheat is now rusting in the fields across Africa.

Officials fear near total crop losses, and the fungus, known as Ug99,
is spreading.

Wheat prices have been soaring this week on top of already high
prices, and futures contracts spiked, too, on panic buying.

Experts fear the cost of bread could soon follow the path of rice, the
price of which has triggered riots in some countries and prompted
countries to cut off exports.

David Kotok, chairman and chief investment officer of Cumberland
Advisors, said the deadly fungus, Puccinia graminis, is now spreading
through some areas of the globe where "crop losses are expected to
reach 100 percent.”

Losses in Africa are already at 70 percent of the crop, Kotok said.

"The economic losses expected from this fungus are now in the many
billions and growing. Worse, there is an intensifying fear of
exacerbated food shortages in poor and emerging countries of the
world,” Kotok told investors in a research note.

"The ramifications are serious. Food rioting continues to expand
around the world. We saw the most recent in Johannesburg.

"So far this unrest has been directed at rising prices. Actual
shortages are still to come.”

Last month, scientists met in the Middle East to determine measures to
track the progress of "Ug99,” which was first discovered in 1999 in
Uganda.

The fungus has spread from its initial outbreak site in Africa to
Asia, including Iran and Pakistan. Spores of the fungus spread with
the winds, according science journal reports.

According to the Food and Agriculture Office (FAO) of the United
Nations, approximately a quarter of the world’s global wheat harvest
is currently threatened by the fungus.

Meanwhile, global wheat stocks are at lows not seen in half a century,
according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Scientists fear that the spores could spread on the wind and reach the
U.S. and Canada or Europe.

"It will take five to eight years to genetically engineer a
resistance,” said Kotok. "In the interim, U.S. agriculture faces
higher risk.”

Kotok is worried that governments around the globe are reacting to the
crisis — which he believes is as big of a threat as bird flu —
inappropriately by artificially lowering the prices of domestic wheat,
and raising export taxes on wheat.

William Gamble, president of Emerging Market Strategies, tells
MoneyNews that artificial mechanisms put in place by governments could
be as much to blame for the crisis as anything.

"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.

"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”


the Story here;
http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:23 pm
Guest
"Warhol" <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c6724054-9e86-470c-97f0-a7b6cef00ad7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:03 a.m. EDT
On top of record-breaking rice prices and corn through the roof on
ethanol demand, wheat is now rusting in the fields across Africa.

Officials fear near total crop losses, and the fungus, known as Ug99,
is spreading.

***********************************************
The COLD-HEARTED BASTARD CHRISTIAN GOD, BUSY AS USUAL, BEING AN AASSHOLE
BDK
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:04 pm
Guest
In article <5427c22a-e14c-4701-929c-f33a5d37ece8
@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jgarbuz@netzero.com says...
Quote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 8:10 am,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:



On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:

On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

,,,
.

"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,=3F Gamble says.

"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.=3F

the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st

Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth

Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?

Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?

Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.

Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.

Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth

What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?

How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates

Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.

. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next

For example?

Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?

Which temple is that now? I can't take the time out to read every
ridiculous conspiracy fable out there, but you can summarize it for me
if you wish.


What do you know about DARPA

A lot. A bunch of very smart people working over there.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?

There was a semitic Third Reich too? Did it last as long as Hitler's,
or about a dozen years? What is it, the Islamic Third Caliphate? You
can fill me in on that one too.


Don't get your hopes up. His response will probably be his usual
ramblings and will probably contain stuff nobody understands like STR.
At least he finally explained what it means. One weirdo term down, about
100 to go.

I wonder if he's Prof. Irwin Corey's illegit kid sometimes.

BDK

BDK
Don Ocean
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:46 am
Guest
jgarbuz wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 4:08 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
jgarbuzwrote:
On Apr 26, 1:29 am, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:

The reason why the money supply was put into the hands of a semi-
autonomous agency such as the Federal Reserve, which is the US Central
Bank, was to control the impulse of government to print too much paper
money.
Nope.. It was set up to allow such, to happen. Keep in mind that it was
a corporate America boondoggle. Very little real Government input in
it..And it was passed quitely and quickly in the wee hours of the
morning.

Lots of shit happens in the wee hours of the morning. They slipped in
women's voting rights and the income tax when no one was looking
during WWI.

The Federal reserve system was implemented in 1913. The Federal Income
tax was instituted in 1914. It was 1% of anything over $4,000. And
farmers never had to pay. Average income was $900 a year.

Whaddya gonna do?

One would hope to reinstitute Constitutional law.

Quote:


Many Newspapers were not even aware of it until weeks later.
The General public still had faith in gold backing and had no idea of
the terrible implications of what we have today.

Well, we all know the dollar today can only buy what a penny bought
before WWI. The value of the dollar fell by 99% in the last century
or so. OTOH, there isn't enough gold in the universe to back the
amount of business that goes on today. You see, from Roman times until
maybe the 18th century, the population of the planet remained pretty
static, as did business. The world only reached a billion people
around 1800. Today it's going on 7 billion. Most of that growth has
been in the last century. But more important, since mass manufacturing
came into existence, and people no longer grew their own food, or made
their own clothes, etc., and had to buy almost everything, people
needed money. Something they didn't really need or have down on the
farm. But there wasn't enough gold or silver ("money") to go
around,even with all the gold rushes put together. And so scrip paper
backed by the "good faith" of the gov't (taxes) had to replace lucre
as common medium of exchange. And the supply of that money had to be
controlled by a more impartial agency than the gov't itself. That's
why central banks came into existence. A little over a century ago,
any factory could print its own paper scrip and give it to its
workers, which they would have to spend in company stores.
Eventually, it became clear that the gov't had to monopolize the
issuing of money, and not every Tom, Dick and Harry with a factory.
But someone had to control the gov't from going wild with that power.
And that is why the Central Bank, or "Federal Reserve" bank was
created, and naturally bankers were used to sit on the board of the
Reserve. Of course, anyone near a register or a cookie jar can
sometimes find a way to manipulate things, but there was no choice.

It was also to reduce bank failures and losses to depositors, which
was all too common in the 19th century. Now people are people, and
cunning people will always find new ways to "game" the system, no
matter what that system is.
So what exactly was this Paul Warburg "banking scam?" Never heard of
it.
You have got to be kidding me .. Paul Warburg owned the Federal Reserve
Central bank in Berlin and was one of the planners of the Federal
reserve system at Jekyll Island in 1913.

So? Bill Gates controls the shitty OS I have to use and fucks me
constantly.

Try UBUNTU 8.04.. Its free and I think you can handle it.

I still don't really know what you're talking about. What
Quote:
I do know is that prior to WWI,

Nope... The Spanish American War made us solvent.

the US was a debtor nation indebted to
Quote:
European banks and countries the same way the US is indebted to China
and Japan today. But thank to the Europeans destroying themselves
during WWI and WWII, the US, unscathed, emerged as the wealthy banker
to the world..

English and American Corporations worked in tandem to milk the warring
nations by selling them war materials in spite of it being against
treaty to sell to warring nations.

But no more. Thanks to dogmatic Republican policies,
Quote:
they've run the country's finances into the ground. While I have been
pro-Republican on social issues, they have proven disastrous when it
comes to finances.

You have that correct.. When we have an Idiot in the first chair that
talkes to God..Lies to us and attacks nations not involved with the WTC
and then expects us to idolize him.

Anyhow, these crazy conspiracy theories about the
Quote:
Federal Reserve Bank, and all of these wacky, 19th century laissez
faire ideas promoted by Ron Paul are nuts. Anyone who wants to go back
to the 19th century is welcome to do so.The way things are going,
it'll become like Gaza soon in America and we'll have to go back to
riding donkeys too. I'm sure Ron Paul will be happy to get back to
horse and buggy days.

Thats interesting.. Today a trucker that is going broke tried to give me
three donkeys. He is losing his place due to a blanket mortgage to cover
his trucking business. I sent him to someone that might buy them from
him. I really hate seeing what is happening to folks that stretched too
far.

>
Don Ocean
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:03 am
Guest
BradGuth wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 1:16 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 26, 8:10 am, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates
Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.
. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next
For example?
Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?

Clue; it's a freaking tell-all book. Ever heard of internet 'search
for'?

What temple? Masons, Illuminati..They are just illusions and some are
just a bunch of overweight old men trying to do some charity work in
this world. Masons have the Shriners circus's to raise money for the 23
Children's Burns and Orthopedic Hospitals.



What do you know about DARPA
This is a bit confusing. What on earth does DARPA have to do with the
Federal reserve. DARPA is a military research organization that
developed our Internet from the seed that Cern started in Switzerland.

Our private Federal Reserve as our global banking cartel (among other
matters) has been in charge of whatever gets affordably funded, and
otherwise of mostly what never gets funded. DARPA is just our
publicly funded home sweet home to those Semitic Third Reich that
supposedly got us safely to/from our moon, though somehow having lost
track of most everything that matters. (apparently too busy sustaining
our mutually perpetrated cold-wars)

DARPA had absolutely nothing to do with the Apollo missions. NASA was
the Governement overseer with North American Aviation under Dutch
Kindlenburg and Lee Atwater as the Main Research Center and General
contractor that established that undertaking. I worked at Downey
California North American Space Research Center for many years. I
personally will tell you that those missions were a success. We tracked
Apollo with S band Radar and Laser communicators the entire way.
Thousands of people manned the worldwide network of tracking stations..
Even the Navy tracked those missions from at sea tracking ships. Now I
really don't care if you believe that or not. Apollo was one of the few
massive projects that had no military oversight!

Quote:

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?

You mean ZionNazi Israel?

I mean the well educated and subsequently rich and powerful German
ZionNazi. (how's that?)
. - Brad Guth

So now you are slamming the Germans? or what the Hell are you on about.
Jews had no hand in Apollo. Dr Von Braun and Dutch Kindlenburg did not
like or trust Jews. In fact the first orbiting payload we put up in 1958
in response to Russia's Sputnik was carried there by a Redstone Missile
that was nothing more then a modified German V3 missile.
>
Don Ocean
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:15 am
Guest
BradGuth wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 2:59 pm, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 26, 8:10 am,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates
Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.
. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next
For example?
Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?
Which temple is that now? I can't take the time out to read every
ridiculous conspiracy fable out there, but you can summarize it for me
if you wish.

What do you know about DARPA
A lot. A bunch of very smart people working over there.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?
There was a semitic Third Reich too? Did it last as long as Hitler's,
or about a dozen years? What is it, the Islamic Third Caliphate? You
can fill me in on that one too.

You have been off-world for how long?

There's no such thing as terrestrial government without its faith-
based puppet-masters in charge of most everything that matters.

BTW, how far could the likes of Hitler have gotten w/o them smart
Jews? or are you going to suggest it was those smarter Muslims giving
warlord Hitler whatever physics and science he needed?
. - Brad Guth

I hate to enlighten you like this..But Germany has long been the center
of Scientific discovery. They controlled the Die industry for almost
Century. There is a huge who's who of outstanding Physicists in the
world. Many of them are Germans and a lot are also Jewish among a hell
of a lot of other nationalities. Science is not limited to any single
bloodline. Adolph Hitler was no dummy! Maybe not a nice guy..But he was
smart and brought Germany out of a terrible financial situation with
the sweat and brains of the German folk to help that occur.And the
German folk of that time was basically several bloodlines. The Arabs
invented the basics of all design theorum called Algebra.
germwar1991
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:20 am
Guest
On Apr 27, 1:15 am, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
Quote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 26, 2:59 pm, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 26, 8:10 am,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates
Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.
. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next
For example?
Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?
Which temple is that now? I can't take the time out to read every
ridiculous conspiracy fable out there, but you can summarize it for me
if you wish.

What do you know about DARPA
A lot. A bunch of very smart people working over there.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?
There was a semitic Third Reich too? Did it last as long as Hitler's,
or about a dozen years? What is it, the Islamic Third Caliphate? You
can fill me in on that one too.

You have been off-world for how long?

There's no such thing as terrestrial government without its faith-
based puppet-masters in charge of most everything that matters.

BTW, how far could the likes of Hitler have gotten w/o them smart
Jews? or are you going to suggest it was those smarter Muslims giving
warlord Hitler whatever physics and science he needed?
. - Brad Guth

I hate to enlighten you like this..But Germany has long been the center
of Scientific discovery. They controlled the Die industry for almost
Century. There is a huge who's who of outstanding Physicists in the
world. Many of them are Germans and a lot are also Jewish among a hell
of a lot of other nationalities. Science is not limited to any single
bloodline. Adolph Hitler was no dummy! Maybe not a nice guy..But he was
smart and brought Germany out of a terrible financial situation with
the sweat and brains of the German folk to help that occur.And the
German folk of that time was basically several bloodlines. The Arabs
invented the basics of all design theorum called Algebra.

read the e-book on www.farviewu.biz
Warhol
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:53 am
Guest
On Apr 26, 1:42 am, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

,,,
.





"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.

"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”

the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454..cfm?s=st

Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth

Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?


Jewish ADL sues the American ADL
http://adlvadl.info/

Hmmm... I wonder if this Post Makes it true the Google censures... The
last tree day's I have problems to upload my post to google server...
why I could not reply to any one...
BradGuth
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:13 am
Guest
On Apr 26, 3:23 pm, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:
Quote:
"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:c6724054-9e86-470c-97f0-a7b6cef00ad7@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn

Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:03 a.m. EDT
On top of record-breaking rice prices and corn through the roof on
ethanol demand, wheat is now rusting in the fields across Africa.

Officials fear near total crop losses, and the fungus, known as Ug99,
is spreading.

***********************************************
The COLD-HEARTED BASTARD CHRISTIAN GOD, BUSY AS USUAL, BEING AN AASSHOLE

Our pretend-atheist cartel of Usenet/Group minions (aka brown-nosed
clowns) to the Semitic Third Reich(STR) obviously doesn't care about
others outside of their own special faith-based cartel.
.. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:18 am
Guest
On Apr 26, 11:15 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
Quote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 26, 2:59 pm, jgarbuz <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 26, 8:10 am,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 1:34 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:02 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:58 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 4:42 pm,jgarbuz<jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
On Apr 25, 7:18 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 25, 3:38 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Wheat Crop Failures Could be Total, Experts Warn
,,,
.
"Twenty countries have put food in price controls or export
restrictions,” Gamble says.
"Others have restricted futures markets. It is the politicians who are
interfering in the markets to protect themselves, and that causes the
problem.”
the Story here;http://moneynews.com/money/archives/st/2008/4/24/100454.cfm?s=st
Since those Jews in charge of most everything related to food, energy
and mainstream media (including public funded education) and of their
pretend-atheists as brown-nosed minions within Usenet/Groups are
clearly not about to do anything constructive on any global basis,
perhaps the proven survival expertise of China can manage to save a
few of us, because they already know about surviving mass starvation
and the horrific gauntlet of artificially imposed inflation from our
mutually perpetrated cold-war of decades with the USSR/Russia.
. - Brad Guth
Now Jews are in charge of food and energy production? When did this
takeover occur? I can see your point in media, to a certain extent,
but food and energy?
Are you going to suggest it's Catholics or perhaps Muslims in charge?
Actually, it's the Mormons, if you must know.
Sadly powerful, but not worth hardly 10% of what's Jewish owned and/or
indirectly controlled.
Who is in charge of the private Federal Reserve banking cartel?
(pretend-atheists? or is it them pesky heathens again?)
. - Brad Guth
What would you suggest in place of the Federal Reserve?
How about honest privatively owned banks working together (exactly
like credit unions do), that don't require an offshore banking cartel
cloak and dagger like environment, or any faith-based policy that
clearly discriminates
Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Sounds a
little vague.
. Our private Federal Reserve is simply too all-
knowing and too insider powerful for our own damn good (it's the fox
guarding them chickens), and there's simply no way of telling what's
coming next
For example?
Are you afraid or just policy forbidden to read "Secrets of the
Temple"?
Which temple is that now? I can't take the time out to read every
ridiculous conspiracy fable out there, but you can summarize it for me
if you wish.

What do you know about DARPA
A lot. A bunch of very smart people working over there.

and of those Semitic Third Reich(STR)?
There was a semitic Third Reich too? Did it last as long as Hitler's,
or about a dozen years? What is it, the Islamic Third Caliphate? You
can fill me in on that one too.

You have been off-world for how long?

There's no such thing as terrestrial government without its faith-
based puppet-masters in charge of most everything that matters.

BTW, how far could the likes of Hitler have gotten w/o them smart
Jews? or are you going to suggest it was those smarter Muslims giving
warlord Hitler whatever physics and science he needed?
. - Brad Guth

I hate to enlighten you like this..But Germany has long been the center
of Scientific discovery. They controlled the Die industry for almost
Century. There is a huge who's who of outstanding Physicists in the
world. Many of them are Germans and a lot are also Jewish among a hell
of a lot of other nationalities. Science is not limited to any single
bloodline. Adolph Hitler was no dummy! Maybe not a nice guy..But he was
smart and brought Germany out of a terrible financial situation with
the sweat and brains of the German folk to help that occur.And the
German folk of that time was basically several bloodlines. The Arabs
invented the basics of all design theorum called Algebra.

You mean that it was those highly educated and thus smart Muslims
after all, that made Hitler look and perform as though so physics and
science good (decades ahead of everyone else), and them German Jews
were just silly minions as having been duped and otherwise absolutely
dumbfounded?
. - Brad Guth
 
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