"Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...@att.net> wrote in message
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On Apr 24, 11:02 pm, "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:> "Fred
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Have you ever taken the time to read the Bible's story of Noah's
flood?
And have you ever pondered what this story's position in the Bible
might
actually mean? While there are many people who consider the Bible, and
therefore Noah's story, to be literally true, most educated and
intelligent people understand that the story of Noah's flood is a
myth.
They understand that Mt. Everest was never covered in flood water,

Are you a little child who can't figure, that in those times the known
world didn't include "Mt. Everest"?

In those times, people thought the world was flat and you would fall
off the edge if you ventured too far out.
Did Jesus think the world was flat, or was he wiser than that?
-Bill

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How do YOU know the world isn't flat, ...unless you BELIEVE and have
FAITH in someone who tells you that? If someone told you the earth is
round,
will you believe that sans evidence? How do you know he didn't mean it's
"round" like a hockey puck?
It's only your BELIEF and FAITH which makes the difference between right
and wrong.

"Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...@att.net> wrote in message

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On Apr 28, 4:14 pm, "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:





"Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...@att.net> wrote in message
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On Apr 24, 11:02 pm, "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:> "Fred
Jones" <supportsys...@juno.com> wrote in message
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Have you ever taken the time to read the Bible's story of Noah's
flood?
And have you ever pondered what this story's position in the Bible
might
actually mean? While there are many people who consider the Bible, and
therefore Noah's story, to be literally true, most educated and
intelligent people understand that the story of Noah's flood is a
myth.
They understand that Mt. Everest was never covered in flood water,

Are you a little child who can't figure, that in those times the known
world didn't include "Mt. Everest"?

In those times, people thought the world was flat and you would fall
off the edge if you ventured too far out.
Did Jesus think the world was flat, or was he wiser than that?
-Bill

---------------------
How do YOU know the world isn't flat, ...unless you BELIEVE and have
FAITH in someone who tells you that? If someone told you the earth is
round,
will you believe that sans evidence? How do you know he didn't mean it's
"round" like a hockey puck?
It's only your BELIEF and FAITH which makes the difference between right
and wrong.

I know the world is round because if I go 2000 miles west, high noon
(sun directly overhead) will be about 2 hours offset from a reference
point. The earth rotates at about 900 nautical miles per hour, so it's
an easy calculation to figure out the distance around the earth and
prove it's a sphere.
How would you interpret this?
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    You failed to answer the question how flat a sphere can be to be no
longer round. The earth's diameter is substantially wider at the equator
than at the poles. So perhaps the hockey puck shape isn't that far off the
track after all.- Hide quoted text -

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monkfish wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:03:13 -0500, bob young wrote:
Pastor Frank wrote:
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:32:35 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere.org> wrote in message
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:31:48 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:

It is impossible for a "perfect" and "loving" being to also be
heinous, demented and despicable. As an intelligent person, you
should be able to see that.

This impossibility tells us that God is imaginary.

You misunderstood.

Love, what did I misunderstand then.

You think you know what God is
and you also think that
the god as you know it is imaginary.
That does not mean God is imaginary.
It just means you misunderstood God.
Now tell me what you think God is.

Simple. There is no god. There is no jesus christ. There is no
devil.
There is no heaven. There is no hell or hell fire. There are no
demons. There are no twenty four elders.There was not a world wide
flood. There was no talking donkey. The book is fiction.

Typical atheist to define the world by what is NOT.

Well NOW's your chance to define what *is* - define [prove] the
existence of Jesus and his all powerful dad LOL
in fact ROFLMAO

God is prior to existence.

Prove it

Read John 1:1-14 In the beginning was the word (an abstraction of an
idea / ideal or fantasy) and the word became flesh in Jesus Christ. That is
why Jesus Christ is our God incarnate.

Pastor Frank wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
monkfish wrote:

God is prior to existence.

Prove it

Read John 1:1-14 In the beginning was the word (an abstraction of an
idea / ideal or fantasy) and the word became flesh in Jesus Christ. That
is why Jesus Christ is our God incarnate.

Why should I read the ramblings of a frightened primitive
living in ignorance and fear?
Ramblings that cannot be substantiated any further back than
the first ever printed bible, about 1,200 years AFTER the
claimed events. Did 'John' write in English? If not, how
many translators were involved prior to any English version?
You do not know of course.

It is now year 2008 GROW UP