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Sanny

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:52 am

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In 1950 It was predicted Fusion will be achieved in 20-30 years.

Later in 1980 Again it was predicted Fusion reactor will be possible
in 20-30 years.

Later in 2000 Again it was predicted Fusion reator will give infinite
cheap energy in 20 year.

Time keep passing and we are not seeing any good progress.

Is it because of Couroption that it failed?

Or there is any technical Problem.

Once I read SuperComputers will help in designing Fusion Reactor.
Today we have PetaFlop Computers are they of no use in designing
Fusion Reactor?

What are the things stopping in developing a Commercial Reactor.

Today Robotics & Computer field is so advanced still why it is so
costly to design a Fusion Reactor.

There are so many ways to create it By Laser/ By Plasma and other
techniques why no good result is Comming.

Is it due to any Conspiracy or Corruption that this work is delayed?

Bye
Sanny

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:06 am

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On Apr 22, 11:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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In brief; all current methods to usefully contain fusion reactions
demand more energy than the reaction supplies. So, yes, there are
technical problems.

To my knowledge the only conainment method that has been shown to work
is gravity containment, which works just fine for the sun but requires
a very large reactor. Of course we have such a reactor, the sun;
perhaps the best way to capitalize on fusion reaction energy is to
capture the energy from the sun.

Douglas Eagleson

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:28 am

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On Apr 22, 8:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Inertial laser plasma blasting with a sizable nearby neutron source
should function.

It make little fusion events icely. The problem is a dangerous size
just might cause as large power plant detruction.

When fuel oil gets to $5/gallon then COngress will likely let special
security clearance power plant open.

A key element missing form the equation was and is always a sizable
Deutrium Tritum reaction tomake the neutrons.

A deutrium/tritium targeted accelerator to irradiate the fuel pellet
would work nicely. Be patient, the time is coming for fusion in
reality.

dlzc

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:57 am

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Dear Sanny:

On Apr 22, 8:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

In 1950 It was predicted Fusion will be achieved
in 20-30 years.

And it was... in bombs.

Quote:

Later in 1980 Again it was predicted Fusion reactor
will be possible in 20-30 years.

Done, just not self-sustaining.

Quote:

Later in 2000 Again it was predicted Fusion
reator will give infinite cheap energy in 20 year.

Time keep passing and we are not seeing any good
progress.

Is it because of Couroption that it failed?

Nope, physics. Fusion of heavy nucleii releases hordes of neutrons,
which make everything nearby radioactive.

Quote:

Or there is any technical Problem.

Yep.

Quote:

Once I read SuperComputers will help in designing
Fusion Reactor. Today we have PetaFlop Computers
are they of no use in designing Fusion Reactor?

They can't change physics.

Quote:

What are the things stopping in developing a
Commercial Reactor.

Physics.

Quote:

Today Robotics & Computer field is so advanced
still why it is so costly to design a Fusion
Reactor.

Unobtainium is too expensive.

Quote:

There are so many ways to create it By Laser/
By Plasma and other techniques why no good result
is Comming.

Containment.

Quote:

Is it due to any Conspiracy or Corruption
that this work is delayed?

No.

David A. Smith

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:06 am

Guest

On Apr 22, 10:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

1. It's hard.
2. No money allowed to be spent on developing it.
3. Can't power cars with it, so more attention paid to turning food
crops into biofuel.

PD

Wordsmith

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:12 am

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On Apr 22, 2:06 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 22, 10:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1950 It was predicted Fusion will be achieved in 20-30 years.

Later in 1980 Again it was predicted Fusion reactor will be possible
in 20-30 years.

Later in 2000 Again it was predicted Fusion reator will give infinite
cheap energy in 20 year.

Time keep passing and we are not seeing any good progress.

Is it because of Couroption that it failed?

Or there is any technical Problem.

Once I read SuperComputers will help in designing Fusion Reactor.
Today we have PetaFlop Computers are they of no use in designing
Fusion Reactor?

What are the things stopping in developing a Commercial Reactor.

Today Robotics & Computer field is so advanced still why it is so
costly to design a Fusion Reactor.

There are so many ways to create it By Laser/ By Plasma and other
techniques why no good result is Comming.

Is it due to any Conspiracy or Corruption that this work is delayed?

Bye
Sanny

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1. It's hard.
2. No money allowed to be spent on developing it.
3. Can't power cars with it, so more attention paid to turning food
crops into biofuel.

PD-

I wonder if they're still working on cold fusion. Some
eggheads in Utah years back said they'd had a
breakthru, but it turned out to be a crock.

W : )

Benj

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:20 pm

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On Apr 22, 2:57 pm, dlzc <dl...@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:

Is it due to any Conspiracy or Corruption
that this work is delayed?

No.

David A. Smith

David lies. It has been squelched as so many developments are which
have political implications. There is NO greater and more important
implication than the destruction of the control of the world through
energy sources (Oil, coal,etc). Any decent (meaning simple and
inexpensive) fusion device would be impossible to control and hence
impossible to be used to control the world. Such a device would have
to be hidden through conspiracy, corruption and ignorance.

In the case of Cold Fusion (better termed low energy fusion), we see a
combination of all three. Those in power rely on the gullibility and
ignorance of physicists to accept whatever some on tells them (like
David above) and to not think for themselves, nor to examine any data
in detail. They especially rely on them not to look into any hints of
conspiracy of any kind (assuming they don't want their careers to end
right now) and also to rely on their paid minions in the "peer review"
system to keep any "unwanted" research out of the "accepted" journals
to allow undesirable facts to be ridiculed and the scientists
reporting them to be denigrated. Such is the way the world works in
2008.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:22 pm

Guest

On Apr 22, 5:20 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 22, 2:57 pm, dlzc <dl...@cox.net> wrote:

Is it due to any Conspiracy or Corruption
that this work is delayed?

No.

David A. Smith

David lies. It has been squelched as so many developments are which
have political implications. There is NO greater and more important
implication than the destruction of the control of the world through
energy sources (Oil, coal,etc). Any decent (meaning simple and
inexpensive) fusion device would be impossible to control and hence
impossible to be used to control the world. Such a device would have
to be hidden through conspiracy, corruption and ignorance.

In the case of Cold Fusion (better termed low energy fusion), we see a
combination of all three. Those in power rely on the gullibility and
ignorance of physicists to accept whatever some on tells them (like
David above) and to not think for themselves, nor to examine any data
in detail. They especially rely on them not to look into any hints of
conspiracy of any kind (assuming they don't want their careers to end
right now) and also to rely on their paid minions in the "peer review"
system to keep any "unwanted" research out of the "accepted" journals
to allow undesirable facts to be ridiculed and the scientists
reporting them to be denigrated. Such is the way the world works in
2008.

Wow, I could even make out what he said through the tin foil hat.

Uncle Al

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:56 pm

Guest

Sanny wrote:

Quote:

In 1950 It was predicted Fusion will be achieved in 20-30 years.
[snip]

That has remained true for every year since. Don't you like
consistency?

Quote:

What are the things stopping in developing a Commercial Reactor.
[snip rest]

In electronics, tolerances average. Computers exist.

In magnetohydrodynamics (economics, meteorology, sociology),
tolerences add. Desktop fusor or the sun, it's a guaranteed
untameable mess that does not improve with scaling. A centrally
managed economy will go to shit (and much more so for escalated
Federal intervention), the mid-West will be smashed by floods and
tornadoes, and as we burn food for fuel,

http://www2.nysun.com/article/74994

Syphilis and gonorrhea are neither subtle nor desirable. Both are
entirely curable. How can they persist as selectively transmitted
diseases? Controlled fusion will never exist for the same reasons.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Saul Levy

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:15 pm

Guest

I've been wondering the same thing, Sanny!

Show me the DAMN POWER PLANT ALREADY!

Saul Levy

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:52:08 -0700 (PDT), Sanny
<softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Saul Levy

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:18 pm

Guest

Syphilis and gonorrhea are easily avoidable.

Uncle Al doesn't BELIEVE? lmao!

Saul Levy

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:56:23 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
wrote:

Quote:

Syphilis and gonorrhea are neither subtle nor desirable. Both are
entirely curable. How can they persist as selectively transmitted
diseases? Controlled fusion will never exist for the same reasons.

Saul Levy

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:54 pm

Guest

You're kidding about #2? Lawrence Livermoor, Los Alamos and Sandia
labs are all working on National Ignition Facility/National Ignition
Campaign/Inertial Fusion Energy. That costs a LOT OF MONEY! NIF
alone is $1.2 BILLION. They've been working on this for a LONG TIME
now using the largest laser systems they can fund.

They're hoping for 2010 now and routine operations by 2013. I no
longer believe their timetables. Are they just playing physics games
with lasers, or trying to develop a usable power plant? The former of
course. I've seen directly what Livermoor was working on (my brother
used to work for them). I saw the Shiva and Nova laser facilities.

See: https://www.llnl.gov/

Saul Levy

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:06:25 -0700 (PDT), PD
<TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

1. It's hard.
2. No money allowed to be spent on developing it.
3. Can't power cars with it, so more attention paid to turning food
crops into biofuel.

PD

Alen

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:31 pm

Guest

On Apr 23, 1:52 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Have a look at:

http://www.lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/focusfusionmain.htm

Alen

Sanny

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:44 pm

Guest

Quote:

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Have a look at:

http://www.lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/focusfusionmain.htm

Very interesting, In how many years with they be able to manufacture
and sell these engines which will produce 5 MW Power at 1/ 100 th the
cost of Oil & Coal Energy?

Bye
Sanny

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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:42 pm

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"Benj" <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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David lies.

You have exactly 1 post to make good on this claim, or apologize.
Your ISP may or may not hear about your decision.

David A. Smith

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