Data plate shows up to 90amps, 30volts open current, so it SHOULD be
able to burn 3/32 rod well enough. Line voltage is 124volts, on a 50
amp circuit. with a sag to 122volts when I strike an arc. Or try to.

There is no reactor(?) coil in the machine, just a hefty transformer,
with 3 taps, Low, Med, High

Would I be served by making a reactor (?) choke(?)

Chuckle..this is simply a fun thing, as Ive got other..better..welders
to use.

Any of you technical guys give me a heads up ?

Gunner

I think that you have better things to do, compared to adding chokes
to pieces of crap. A POS with a choke is still a POS.

I heard that copper prices are up considerably...

i

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:44:41 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

I think that you have better things to do, compared to adding chokes
to pieces of crap. A POS with a choke is still a POS.

I heard that copper prices are up considerably...

i

What part of "for fun" did you not comprehend?

btw...I took delivery of one of these this weekend

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/operatorsmanualdatasheet.aspx?p=32264

Guy claims no matter what setting its at..it runs full bore. All the
boards have been changed (I have the receipts).

Ill be fixing that one up too. Will that offend you less? <G

Years ago, at least 20, I snagged an elderly Marquette 110vt buzzbox.

Its always been an utter pain in the ass to weld with, as it seems to
be nearly unable to maintain an arc. Open voltage is right at 34
volts, not measured under load.

Data plate shows up to 90amps, 30volts open current, so it SHOULD be
able to burn 3/32 rod well enough. Line voltage is 124volts, on a 50
amp circuit. with a sag to 122volts when I strike an arc. Or try to.

There is no reactor(?) coil in the machine, just a hefty transformer,
with 3 taps, Low, Med, High

I dragged it out over the weekend and tried welding with it since my
skill level has increased a smidge since I got it .

Its still a pain in the ass. Even with 3/32 rod of various types, it
will bearly maintain an arch, but the rod turns red very quickly and
sags, even though it wont burn properly.

Is this an indication of too low an arc voltage, given that Ive good
reasonable current..enough to sag the rod.

Ive tried 1/16", and its not a hell of a lot better, with 6011/6013
etc being tried in all sizes.

Would I be served by making a reactor (?) choke(?)

Chuckle..this is simply a fun thing, as Ive got other..better..welders
to use.

Any of you technical guys give me a heads up ?

Gunner


"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a
group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection
of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes.
Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want
voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On 2008-04-21, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:44:41 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

I think that you have better things to do, compared to adding chokes
to pieces of crap. A POS with a choke is still a POS.

I heard that copper prices are up considerably...

i

What part of "for fun" did you not comprehend?

btw...I took delivery of one of these this weekend

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/operatorsmanualdatasheet.aspx?p=32264

Guy claims no matter what setting its at..it runs full bore. All the
boards have been changed (I have the receipts).

Ill be fixing that one up too. Will that offend you less? <G

That is a great project. Perfect project in fact.

i

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:40:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

snip
Data plate shows up to 90amps, 30volts open current, so it SHOULD be
able to burn 3/32 rod well enough. Line voltage is 124volts, on a 50
amp circuit. with a sag to 122volts when I strike an arc. Or try to.

What are the current levels on input and output while under
load? Maybe you have a bad/resistive connection somewhere in
the output. Measuring some current levels may prove helpful.

There is no reactor(?) coil in the machine, just a hefty transformer,
with 3 taps, Low, Med, High

I've only seen reactor coils on DC machines. They help
smooth out the bumps between rectified cycles while still
allowing the voltage to fluctuate and current to stay
steady. I don't think it would help much here (shrug). You
can always make a crude one for a test. Just coil maybe 20
loops of the stinger cable around maybe a 2 inch or so
square stick close to the welder output and give it a whirl.

Gunner Asch wrote:

Would I be served by making a reactor (?) choke(?)

Chuckle..this is simply a fun thing, as Ive got other..better..welders
to use.

Any of you technical guys give me a heads up ?

Gunner


Sounds like a good power supply for electrolytic rust removal, or Al
anodizing..........

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:19:49 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

On 2008-04-21, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:44:41 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

I think that you have better things to do, compared to adding chokes
to pieces of crap. A POS with a choke is still a POS.

I heard that copper prices are up considerably...

i

What part of "for fun" did you not comprehend?

btw...I took delivery of one of these this weekend

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/operatorsmanualdatasheet.aspx?p=32264

Guy claims no matter what setting its at..it runs full bore. All the
boards have been changed (I have the receipts).

Ill be fixing that one up too. Will that offend you less? <G

That is a great project. Perfect project in fact.

i


Ooooo!! I thank you for your approval Your Imminance!!

One assumes that Ill be allowed to have fun doing it as well?

Years ago, at least 20, I snagged an elderly Marquette 110vt buzzbox.

Its always been an utter pain in the ass to weld with, as it seems to
be nearly unable to maintain an arc. Open voltage is right at 34
volts, not measured under load.

Data plate shows up to 90amps, 30volts open current, so it SHOULD be
able to burn 3/32 rod well enough. Line voltage is 124volts, on a 50
amp circuit. with a sag to 122volts when I strike an arc. Or try to.

There is no reactor(?) coil in the machine, just a hefty transformer,
with 3 taps, Low, Med, High

I dragged it out over the weekend and tried welding with it since my
skill level has increased a smidge since I got it .

Its still a pain in the ass. Even with 3/32 rod of various types, it
will bearly maintain an arch, but the rod turns red very quickly and
sags, even though it wont burn properly.

Is this an indication of too low an arc voltage, given that Ive good
reasonable current..enough to sag the rod.

Ive tried 1/16", and its not a hell of a lot better, with 6011/6013
etc being tried in all sizes.

Would I be served by making a reactor (?) choke(?)

Chuckle..this is simply a fun thing, as Ive got other..better..welders
to use.

Any of you technical guys give me a heads up ?

Gunner

your plug, check where it connects inside the box, you may have a bad
connection, that could give a large voltage drop under load, but show good
without load.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On 2008-04-21, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:19:49 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

On 2008-04-21, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:44:41 -0500, Ignoramus4289
ignoramus4289@NOSPAM.4289.invalid> wrote:

I think that you have better things to do, compared to adding chokes
to pieces of crap. A POS with a choke is still a POS.

I heard that copper prices are up considerably...

i

What part of "for fun" did you not comprehend?

btw...I took delivery of one of these this weekend

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/operatorsmanualdatasheet.aspx?p=32264

Guy claims no matter what setting its at..it runs full bore. All the
boards have been changed (I have the receipts).

Ill be fixing that one up too. Will that offend you less? <G

That is a great project. Perfect project in fact.

i


Ooooo!! I thank you for your approval Your Imminance!!

One assumes that Ill be allowed to have fun doing it as well?


Only if you vote for Barack Hussein Obama

i

If its 110v, are you running it off a 100ft 18ga extension cord ? check
your plug, check where it connects inside the box, you may have a bad
connection, that could give a large voltage drop under load, but show good
without load.
gary

"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:0eqp04ht06vftdlivb5ftlvg16oqf74mkb@4ax.com...
Years ago, at least 20, I snagged an elderly Marquette 110vt buzzbox.

Its always been an utter pain in the ass to weld with, as it seems to
be nearly unable to maintain an arc. Open voltage is right at 34
volts, not measured under load.

Data plate shows up to 90amps, 30volts open current, so it SHOULD be
able to burn 3/32 rod well enough. Line voltage is 124volts, on a 50
amp circuit. with a sag to 122volts when I strike an arc. Or try to.

There is no reactor(?) coil in the machine, just a hefty transformer,
with 3 taps, Low, Med, High

I dragged it out over the weekend and tried welding with it since my
skill level has increased a smidge since I got it .

Its still a pain in the ass. Even with 3/32 rod of various types, it
will bearly maintain an arch, but the rod turns red very quickly and
sags, even though it wont burn properly.

Is this an indication of too low an arc voltage, given that Ive good
reasonable current..enough to sag the rod.

Ive tried 1/16", and its not a hell of a lot better, with 6011/6013
etc being tried in all sizes.

Would I be served by making a reactor (?) choke(?)

Chuckle..this is simply a fun thing, as Ive got other..better..welders
to use.

Any of you technical guys give me a heads up ?

Gunner


"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a
group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection
of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes.
Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want
voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr