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Jon Slaughter
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:52 pm
Guest
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/
gearhead
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:52 pm
Guest
On Apr 21, 10:52 am, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years.  Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

I know -- let's stop buying stuff from them!!

Hearty har-har.
T
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:52 pm
Guest
In article <4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com says...
Quote:
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/




It isn't just China but India too. The outsourcing of jobs from the U.S.
to them meant a rising middle class would happen and that's what is
putting such a squeeze on oil, copper, etc.

Globalism had some benefits for us, so long as it kept the source
nations relatively poor. Once you open up the floodgates the game is
over.

It won't be long now until the love affair with outsourcing starts to
sour, because by then the U.S. economy will liken that of a third world
nation and it'll be cheaper to make it here.
John Devereux
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:52 pm
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"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> writes:

Quote:
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

Perhaps the time has come to Liberate Chile?

--

John Devereux
Martin Griffith
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:00 pm
Guest
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:43:54 -0400, in sci.electronics.design T
<nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

Quote:
In article <4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com says...
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/




It isn't just China but India too. The outsourcing of jobs from the U.S.
to them meant a rising middle class would happen and that's what is
putting such a squeeze on oil, copper, etc.

Globalism had some benefits for us, so long as it kept the source
nations relatively poor. Once you open up the floodgates the game is
over.

It won't be long now until the love affair with outsourcing starts to
sour, because by then the U.S. economy will liken that of a third world
nation and it'll be cheaper to make it here.

things are changing, allegedly
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/04/18/india-becoming-expensive-tech


martin
John Larkin
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:57 pm
Guest
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:52:47 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/


And tin. Gold. Concrete. Rice. Steel. Wheat. As a couple of billion
more people want to be middle-class, things get strained.

John
T
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:49 pm
Guest
In article <qhlp041q97pt1o8hu1cmhgjjfuus40hign@4ax.com>,
mart_in_medina@yah00.es says...
Quote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:43:54 -0400, in sci.electronics.design T
nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

In article <4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com says...
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/




It isn't just China but India too. The outsourcing of jobs from the U.S.
to them meant a rising middle class would happen and that's what is
putting such a squeeze on oil, copper, etc.

Globalism had some benefits for us, so long as it kept the source
nations relatively poor. Once you open up the floodgates the game is
over.

It won't be long now until the love affair with outsourcing starts to
sour, because by then the U.S. economy will liken that of a third world
nation and it'll be cheaper to make it here.

things are changing, allegedly
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/04/18/india-becoming-expensive-tech


martin


I've known this would happen eventually. It'll all come home to roost
soon enough.
Jim Thompson
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:15 pm
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:06:00 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
<null@example.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:57:51 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:52:47 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"

So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

And tin. Gold. Concrete. Rice. Steel. Wheat. As a couple of billion
more people want to be middle-class, things get strained.


If they'd just get the government out of the way, and let the Free
Market operate naturally, everyone will get richer. The problem is
way, way, way too much government regulation, taxes, etc, etc, etc...

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich


Rich, I rarely agree with you, but this time you're dead-on correct!

...Jim Thompson
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Robert Baer
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:40 am
Guest
Jon Slaughter wrote:

Quote:
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/


Also look at silver, nickel, tin and even iron.
amdx
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:24 am
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"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.22.03.05.14.843155@example.net...
Quote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:57:51 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:52:47 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"

So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

And tin. Gold. Concrete. Rice. Steel. Wheat. As a couple of billion
more people want to be middle-class, things get strained.


If they'd just get the government out of the way, and let the Free
Market operate naturally, everyone will get richer. The problem is
way, way, way too much government regulation, taxes, etc, etc, etc...

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I agree with you. But, however much I'm against government programs

I can't help but think we need a Manhattan project or Kennedy's "Man on the
moon" program to find new sources of energy for the next decade.
Or remove capital gains tax from energy research companies and let the
free market do it.
The solution will not be one source, it will be many. Solar, wind (Teddy,
I don't care about your view from Martha's Vineyard) oil from algae (not
corn, stupid, stupid, stupid, politicians got bought by the farmer lobby)
and conservation (ooh!) our cars will be smaller in ten years.
Mike
Paul
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:52 am
Guest
On Apr 21, 7:06 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@example.net>
wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:57:51 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:52:47 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"

So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years.  Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

And tin. Gold. Concrete. Rice. Steel. Wheat. As a couple of billion
more people want to be middle-class, things get strained.

If they'd just get the government out of the way, and let the Free
Market operate naturally, everyone will get richer. The problem is
way, way, way too much government regulation, taxes, etc, etc, etc...

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

You and the libertarians have all the answers, eh?

So do you think Standard Oil should have been broken
up? Or do you think monopolies are good for the consumer?

Do you think gangs and mafia groups should be allowed
to fester and grow unimpeded, because of insufficient law
enforcement?
JeffM
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:11 am
Guest
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
Quote:
If they'd just get the government out of the way,
and let the Free Market operate naturally, everyone will get richer.
The problem is way, way, way too much government regulation, taxes,
etc, etc, etc...

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

You'd have a point IF there wasn't collateral damage
due to the greed and stupidity of OTHERS.

Observe the folks whose houses are plumetting in value because of
the folks in their neighborhood who are defaulting on their loans.
A balance of laissez-faire and regulation is always required
to try to avoid the no-man-is-an-island problem.

Of course, there are alternatives to a social existance.
http://www.google.com/images?q=Ted-Kaczynski+cabin
JeffM
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:14 am
Guest
Quote:
amdx wrote:
our cars will be smaller in ten years.

Nico Coesel wrote:
Like this:
http://www.chevrolet.nl/matiz/matiz-index.html

Jim Thompson wrote:
When you have a head-on collision with my Q45,
do I use a bucket or a shovel to scoop up your remains ?Smile

You just reminded me about how I smirk when I see a Hummer
--especially these days, given their poor showing in crash tests.
The urban assault vehicles on the nooz
flipped onto their roofs like dead bugs are amusing too.
Jim Thompson
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:08 am
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

Quote:

"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.22.03.05.14.843155@example.net...
[snip]

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I agree with you. But, however much I'm against government programs
I can't help but think we need a Manhattan project or Kennedy's "Man on the
moon" program to find new sources of energy for the next decade.

Or remove capital gains tax from energy research companies and let the
free market do it.

Oxymoron. Remove capital gain taxes on everything.

Quote:
The solution will not be one source, it will be many. Solar, wind (Teddy,
I don't care about your view from Martha's Vineyard) oil from algae (not
corn, stupid, stupid, stupid, politicians got bought by the farmer lobby)
and conservation (ooh!)

our cars will be smaller in ten years.


Not mine ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave
amdx
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:23 am
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:i7sr045eboefd2ui8f211vfg0th8nbkc8u@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.22.03.05.14.843155@example.net...
[snip]

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I agree with you. But, however much I'm against government
programs
I can't help but think we need a Manhattan project or Kennedy's "Man on
the
moon" program to find new sources of energy for the next decade.

Or remove capital gains tax from energy research companies and let the
free market do it.

Oxymoron. Remove capital gain taxes on everything.

The solution will not be one source, it will be many. Solar, wind
(Teddy,
I don't care about your view from Martha's Vineyard) oil from algae (not
corn, stupid, stupid, stupid, politicians got bought by the farmer lobby)
and conservation (ooh!)

our cars will be smaller in ten years.


Not mine ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave
 
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