As Bill Cosby said about the VW Beetle in his comedy album "200
M.P.H":

"They don't tell you that they've been banned from the Golden Gate
Bridge, for changing lanes without moving the steering wheel.

They don't tell you that in a head-on collision with a dog,
they lose."

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:52:18 +0100, Mike <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:03:03 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:12:37 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

"amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


and conservation (ooh!) our cars will be smaller in ten years.
Mike

Like this:
http://www.chevrolet.nl/matiz/matiz-index.html

When you have a head-on collision with my Q45, do I use a bucket or a
shovel to scoop up your remains ?:-)

I don't have a Matiz (I rather die). I did drive a Matiz a few times
though as a courtesy car while my car was being repaired. It drives
like a go-kart. Probably no-one will survive any head-on collision in
a Matiz because your feet are right behind the head lights (they made
it look so much bigger on the pictures).

Nope, it's slightly better than that.

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/chevrolet_matiz_2005/233.aspx

There are a links on that page to the crash test films and stills from
the front impact 64kph/40mph test and the 50kmh 30mph side impact
test.


But the tiny Matiz is rated HIGHER than the huge Chrysler Voyager
(2007 version)

Speaking as the previous poster was of Q45's , the Nissan Navara is
mildly amusing, as heavy as a brick shithouse and less crashworthy
than almost anything.

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_navara/317.aspx

I've not heard of that model, but pick-up trucks in general tend to be
unstable when hit from the side.

They don't sell Infiniti in Europe?

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]

They don't sell Infiniti in Europe?

Nope. Never heard of it. Cars from the US usually don't sell to well
over here.

Chevrolet puts 'designed for Europe' in their
advertisements because US cars are known for not going around corners
too well. Since straight roads are very rare in Europe, not being able
to go round corners is a serious handicap. And there is fuel economy,
BHP/litre and maintenance costs at which US cars usually perform worse
than the Japanese, French and Germans car manufacturors.

So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:36:26 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]

They don't sell Infiniti in Europe?

Nope. Never heard of it. Cars from the US usually don't sell to well
over here.

Infiniti is made in JAPAN

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:36:26 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]

They don't sell Infiniti in Europe?

Nope. Never heard of it. Cars from the US usually don't sell to well
over here.

Infiniti is made in JAPAN ;-)

That explaines the McPherson / Multilink suspension on the Q45. Which
company is behind it? Mazda?

"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
So what ya think... copper prices have quadrupled in last 5 years. Seems
like it has out performed oil by far.

We gotta do something about those damn chinese!! ;/

Fix the USD first (Or rather: Please don't - it's kindof funny to watch the
wests leading nation both blow itself clean out of the water and starve a
couple of middle eastern countries stupid enough to still peg their currency
to the USD).

Sort of like watching Jackass: "Ouch, THAT hurt, Bwahahahahaah".

"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...

Fix the USD first (Or rather: Please don't - it's kindof funny to
watch the wests leading nation both blow itself clean out of the
water and starve a couple of middle eastern countries stupid enough
to still peg their currency to the USD).

Sort of like watching Jackass: "Ouch, THAT hurt, Bwahahahahaah".

Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...

Fix the USD first (Or rather: Please don't - it's kindof funny to
watch the wests leading nation both blow itself clean out of the
water and starve a couple of middle eastern countries stupid enough
to still peg their currency to the USD).

Sort of like watching Jackass: "Ouch, THAT hurt, Bwahahahahaah".

That have a bunch of stuff coming at their sorry-asses here in the US
with a 30% increase in food prices in as many days and unsustainably
high fuel costs spiraling the whole mess out of control. This is what
you get with a general population at moron level of intellectual
capacity and real bad, crooked, scum at the helm. The US is about to get
hit hard as hell and they brought it on themselves...

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:19:49 -0400, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:

"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...

Fix the USD first (Or rather: Please don't - it's kindof funny to
watch the wests leading nation both blow itself clean out of the
water and starve a couple of middle eastern countries stupid enough
to still peg their currency to the USD).

Sort of like watching Jackass: "Ouch, THAT hurt, Bwahahahahaah".

That have a bunch of stuff coming at their sorry-asses here in the US
with a 30% increase in food prices in as many days and unsustainably
high fuel costs spiraling the whole mess out of control. This is what
you get with a general population at moron level of intellectual
capacity and real bad, crooked, scum at the helm. The US is about to get
hit hard as hell and they brought it on themselves...


Naaah! It'll help bring down the leftist weenies for preventing
drilling our own oil, supporting that crock-o-shit called ethanol,
etc.

...Jim Thompson

Naaah! It'll help bring down the leftist weenies for preventing
drilling our own oil, supporting that crock-o-shit called ethanol,
etc.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:53:12 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


"amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote in message
news:eeab2$480df4e7$450139f0$8931@KNOLOGY.NET...

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:i7sr045eboefd2ui8f211vfg0th8nbkc8u@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.22.03.05.14.843155@example.net...
[snip]

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I agree with you. But, however much I'm against government
programs
I can't help but think we need a Manhattan project or Kennedy's "Man on
the
moon" program to find new sources of energy for the next decade.

Or remove capital gains tax from energy research companies and let the
free market do it.

Oxymoron. Remove capital gain taxes on everything.

Come on Jim, that's only if you want the free market to grow the economy,
create jobs, and let the people pursue happiness. ;-)

That's what the Declaration states.


The solution will not be one source, it will be many. Solar, wind
(Teddy,
I don't care about your view from Martha's Vineyard) oil from algae (not
corn, stupid, stupid, stupid, politicians got bought by the farmer lobby)
and conservation (ooh!)

our cars will be smaller in ten years.


Not mine ;-)

I hope I'm driving an electric car recharged from a nuclear power
plant.
Mike

...Jim Thompson


Mine will have a V8 reactor built-in ;-)

On Sunday I did a round-trip run to the far East Valley... at 100MPH,
except for a small segment where a cop was visible ;-)

America needs to get over its puritanical speed laws.

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:53:12 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


"amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote in message
news:eeab2$480df4e7$450139f0$8931@KNOLOGY.NET...

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:i7sr045eboefd2ui8f211vfg0th8nbkc8u@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:24:18 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:


"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.22.03.05.14.843155@example.net...
[snip]

Government _ALWAYS_ makes things worse.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I agree with you. But, however much I'm against government
programs
I can't help but think we need a Manhattan project or Kennedy's "Man on
the
moon" program to find new sources of energy for the next decade.

Or remove capital gains tax from energy research companies and let the
free market do it.

Oxymoron. Remove capital gain taxes on everything.

Come on Jim, that's only if you want the free market to grow the economy,
create jobs, and let the people pursue happiness. ;-)

That's what the Declaration states.


The solution will not be one source, it will be many. Solar, wind
(Teddy,
I don't care about your view from Martha's Vineyard) oil from algae (not
corn, stupid, stupid, stupid, politicians got bought by the farmer lobby)
and conservation (ooh!)

our cars will be smaller in ten years.


Not mine ;-)

I hope I'm driving an electric car recharged from a nuclear power
plant.
Mike

...Jim Thompson


Mine will have a V8 reactor built-in ;-)

On Sunday I did a round-trip run to the far East Valley... at 100MPH,
except for a small segment where a cop was visible ;-)

America needs to get over its puritanical speed laws.

Indeed. Tomorrow I'll be driving through Germany where they have no
speed limits on the "boring" pieces of highway.

Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4D3Pj.5037$iK6.1974@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...

Fix the USD first (Or rather: Please don't - it's kindof funny to
watch the wests leading nation both blow itself clean out of the
water and starve a couple of middle eastern countries stupid enough
to still peg their currency to the USD).

Sort of like watching Jackass: "Ouch, THAT hurt, Bwahahahahaah".

That have a bunch of stuff coming at their sorry-asses here in the US
with a 30% increase in food prices in as many days and unsustainably
high fuel costs spiraling the whole mess out of control. This is what
you get with a general population at moron level of intellectual
capacity and real bad, crooked, scum at the helm. The US is about to get
hit hard as hell and they brought it on themselves...

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:43:07 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:36:26 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

[snip]

They don't sell Infiniti in Europe?

Nope. Never heard of it. Cars from the US usually don't sell to well
over here.

Infiniti is made in JAPAN ;-)

That explaines the McPherson / Multilink suspension on the Q45. Which
company is behind it? Mazda?

Nissan