On Apr 22, 3:06 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:





On Apr 21, 12:58 am, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Will recreational drugs play a role?  Which ones?

Not officially no.

I don't believe mind-altering drugs are necessary or desireable.

Yet, it will be likely that two drugs, which are currently used by the
US military, will likely be in the pharmacopia of any Mars expedition.

Now, given that they're all prohibited, and are Schedule III drugs in
the US, they will not likely play any role whatever in any US program
recreationally.  At least not openly.

However, the drugs described below - are currently prescribed for
relationship improvement by therapists in certain European countries -
they also reduce interpersonal tension in close knit community - and
they are available as a prescription in those countries and are
pharmaceutical quality.

They are also used as anesthetics and stress reduction in battle field
and are routinely given to soldiers to improve morale, reduce tension,
and ease pain.  Before being categorized as a Schedule III drug, they
were prescribed by therapists in the USA as well.

These drugs are;

Ecstasy with a ketamine kicker - aka - kitty flipping.

Ketamine was used to help successfully cure a teenaged girl from
rabies not long ago.

If you have an interest in such things, you may consider a trip to
Holland or Iraq.

http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/holland_hookers_and_hook...

In Holland, meet with a licensed therapist, to get a legal scrip for
these sorts of things.  In Iraq - get hit with an IED and survive and
convince the doc to give you something for your nerves.

I do not recommend doing any of this, or taking the drugs OUT of
Holland when you return to your country of origin. or Iraq for that
matter.  Should you do this, since the metabolites will stay in your
bloodstream for a period of weeks, and since most States test blood
and urine, I recommend you not drive for at least two weeks after you
return - should you be foolish enough to do all this.

It's only a felony if you took illegal drugs.  If the drugs
weren't illegal where you were vacationing, there's no
felony.

Besides, I wouldn't take any drugs out of Holland because
I'd probably stay there.

But that doesn't stop folks from doing so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketaminehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin

Captain Cook spent a lot more time with a lot more men in a lot more
difficult environment than a mars expedition.

I would suggest a cache of Rum be dispensed by the medical personnell
on board the mars ship...  and a pair of boxing gloves be stowed
aboard - for suprvised fighting to ease tension and build morale -
instead of resorting kitty flipping - but I doubt what I think will
change anything.

Weak blotter, say 25 ug per hit maximum.  Easy to titrate,
and you won't go Syd Barrett so long as it's rationed.

Pot is still very worthy of consideration.  Vaporizers are
safe to use, since there are no open flames involved.

According to legal records, about 2.5% - 1 in 40 - docs in the US
military abuse their pharmacy and supply these drugs under conditions
that would be considered recreational use.  Rates are higher in other
federal agencies - such as the Public Health Service, etc., which are
higher than in the public generally.  This is likely due to the number
of young people involved, and the ease with which the drugs are
prescribed in the battlefield.

Beyond the pattern of use in federal agencies, there are other
possibilities.

Some of the early pioneers of these drugs felt they were in contact
with aliens and non human intelligence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly

Lilly told once how he was so stoned one evening that
"representatives from Earth Coincidence Control Office"
took control of his car and drove him home safely.



Also, given this history, and the covert history of the intelligence
community of the United States with these drugs, and the history of
the intelligence community with bizarre pseudo science programs;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Projecthttp://en.wikipedia.org/...

there may be federally PROMOTED use of these drugs in the space
community today.  Why?  First as a means to attempt contact with
aliens and non-human intelligence.  Second, as a means to control the
range of discourse of astronauts and reign in their political
potential following momentous publicly hailed journeys.

I mean, other explorers in other epochs, oft times became politically
and financially very powerful as a result of their journeys.  Despite
the media coverage of say a moon landing, and despite significant
interesting insights of moon explorers say,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_Sciences#History

we don't see translation to a broader power base among any.  While
some explorers in the past fell on hard times.  Some were quite
successful.  NONE have converted their journeys into success.

This might to some extent be due to the fact that such influence is
being covertly repressed or managed, and perhaps the insights
themselves are being coopted by a covert operation managed by the US
intelligence community.

I cannot know if that's true - it makes a helluva story though.

Given that going to the moon and returning to Earth gave about 1/4 of
the returning astronauts deeply meaningful insights that they could
communicate sensibly to others after only a week or two in deep
space.  It is very likely that a small crew spending 18 months in
space - will have similar transformations and realizations.

Given their high profile status, they may even be selected on the
basis of their drug use.  Since any wild ass ideas or insights they
have can be explained by such use to the public, and since what they
say and do after returning - can be controlled by the threat of
disclosure - and disclosure in any event may be seen by some as a
lever that can be used to dampen public enthusiasm for over spending
on say settling mars following the expedition - should that arise and
not be controllable by other means.

One cannot know these things, but a simple Bayesian analysis indicates
that it 100% likely that these two drugs will be on board ship, and
that it 25% likely that one or more crew members will use them
recreationally - and it 5% likely that it will become publicly known
on their return.

Again, who knows?  It makes for a ripping yarn doesn't it?  I can see
the future book now - winning a Pulitzer Prize and top selling book
for 10 weeks running - in 2021 - 'Mars MDMA and collapse of NASA'- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Apr 22, 10:05 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:



On Apr 22, 3:06 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 21, 12:58 am, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Will recreational drugs play a role? Which ones?

Not officially no.

I don't believe mind-altering drugs are necessary or desireable.

Yet, it will be likely that two drugs, which are currently used by the
US military, will likely be in the pharmacopia of any Mars expedition.

Now, given that they're all prohibited, and are Schedule III drugs in
the US, they will not likely play any role whatever in any US program
recreationally. At least not openly.

However, the drugs described below - are currently prescribed for
relationship improvement by therapists in certain European countries -
they also reduce interpersonal tension in close knit community - and
they are available as a prescription in those countries and are
pharmaceutical quality.

They are also used as anesthetics and stress reduction in battle field
and are routinely given to soldiers to improve morale, reduce tension,
and ease pain. Before being categorized as a Schedule III drug, they
were prescribed by therapists in the USA as well.

These drugs are;

Ecstasy with a ketamine kicker - aka - kitty flipping.

Ketamine was used to help successfully cure a teenaged girl from
rabies not long ago.

If you have an interest in such things, you may consider a trip to
Holland or Iraq.

http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/holland_hookers_and_hook....

In Holland, meet with a licensed therapist, to get a legal scrip for
these sorts of things. In Iraq - get hit with an IED and survive and
convince the doc to give you something for your nerves.

I do not recommend doing any of this, or taking the drugs OUT of
Holland when you return to your country of origin. or Iraq for that
matter. Should you do this, since the metabolites will stay in your
bloodstream for a period of weeks, and since most States test blood
and urine, I recommend you not drive for at least two weeks after you
return - should you be foolish enough to do all this.

It's only a felony if you took illegal drugs. If the drugs
weren't illegal where you were vacationing, there's no
felony.

Besides, I wouldn't take any drugs out of Holland because
I'd probably stay there.

But that doesn't stop folks from doing so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketaminehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin

Captain Cook spent a lot more time with a lot more men in a lot more
difficult environment than a mars expedition.

I would suggest a cache of Rum be dispensed by the medical personnell
on board the mars ship... and a pair of boxing gloves be stowed
aboard - for suprvised fighting to ease tension and build morale -
instead of resorting kitty flipping - but I doubt what I think will
change anything.

Weak blotter, say 25 ug per hit maximum. Easy to titrate,
and you won't go Syd Barrett so long as it's rationed.

Pot is still very worthy of consideration. Vaporizers are
safe to use, since there are no open flames involved.

According to legal records, about 2.5% - 1 in 40 - docs in the US
military abuse their pharmacy and supply these drugs under conditions
that would be considered recreational use. Rates are higher in other
federal agencies - such as the Public Health Service, etc., which are
higher than in the public generally. This is likely due to the number
of young people involved, and the ease with which the drugs are
prescribed in the battlefield.

Beyond the pattern of use in federal agencies, there are other
possibilities.

Some of the early pioneers of these drugs felt they were in contact
with aliens and non human intelligence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly

Lilly told once how he was so stoned one evening that
"representatives from Earth Coincidence Control Office"
took control of his car and drove him home safely.

Also, given this history, and the covert history of the intelligence
community of the United States with these drugs, and the history of
the intelligence community with bizarre pseudo science programs;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Projecthttp://en.wikipedia.org/....

there may be federally PROMOTED use of these drugs in the space
community today. Why? First as a means to attempt contact with
aliens and non-human intelligence. Second, as a means to control the
range of discourse of astronauts and reign in their political
potential following momentous publicly hailed journeys.

I mean, other explorers in other epochs, oft times became politically
and financially very powerful as a result of their journeys. Despite
the media coverage of say a moon landing, and despite significant
interesting insights of moon explorers say,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_Sciences#History

we don't see translation to a broader power base among any. While
some explorers in the past fell on hard times. Some were quite
successful. NONE have converted their journeys into success.

This might to some extent be due to the fact that such influence is
being covertly repressed or managed, and perhaps the insights
themselves are being coopted by a covert operation managed by the US
intelligence community.

I cannot know if that's true - it makes a helluva story though.

Given that going to the moon and returning to Earth gave about 1/4 of
the returning astronauts deeply meaningful insights that they could
communicate sensibly to others after only a week or two in deep
space. It is very likely that a small crew spending 18 months in
space - will have similar transformations and realizations.

Given their high profile status, they may even be selected on the
basis of their drug use. Since any wild ass ideas or insights they
have can be explained by such use to the public, and since what they
say and do after returning - can be controlled by the threat of
disclosure - and disclosure in any event may be seen by some as a
lever that can be used to dampen public enthusiasm for over spending
on say settling mars following the expedition - should that arise and
not be controllable by other means.

One cannot know these things, but a simple Bayesian analysis indicates
that it 100% likely that these two drugs will be on board ship, and
that it 25% likely that one or more crew members will use them
recreationally - and it 5% likely that it will become publicly known
on their return.

Again, who knows? It makes for a ripping yarn doesn't it? I can see
the future book now - winning a Pulitzer Prize and top selling book
for 10 weeks running - in 2021 - 'Mars MDMA and collapse of NASA'- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Someone actually had two or three patents that were revealed to them
while under the influence - this is something that would get the
attention of the CIA.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking for patterns
in static.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:







Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:



On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1,  2,  3  ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:



On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1,  2,  3  ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:



On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1, 2, 3 ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

On Apr 24, 11:15 am, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:



On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1,  2,  3  ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

It could be Mook himself, or it could be those MIB of his DARPA doing
their usual stealth form of group moderation so that secrets of their
cloak and dagger trade are not being made public.
. - Brad Guth

On Apr 24, 2:39 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 24, 11:15 am, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail.  Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school.  It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol.  I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis.   Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with.  lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1,  2,  3  ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

It could be Mook himself, or it could be those MIB of his DARPA doing
their usual stealth form of group moderation so that secrets of their
cloak and dagger trade are not being made public.
. - Brad Guth

I am under the impression that people like Mook are so
freakin' wired that they've got things like "VoiceDragon" wired
to themselves - just in case someone comes along to
rock their ship-of-fools - he could actually be reading the
stuff while having VoiceDragon type out "his" data,
leaving most of us to wonder if he's actually got any
time at all left for work!

Can you imagine, there are probably thousands of Mooks
all over the internet spewing this stuff while wearing theirhttp://www.emotive.comheadsets .... They're adapting to
the "tech speak" faster than an interview with the local
Geek has ever nym-rodded off the grid!

American

On Apr 24, 2:39 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 24, 11:15 am, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable, though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1, 2, 3 ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

It could be Mook himself, or it could be those MIB of his DARPA doing
their usual stealth form of group moderation so that secrets of their
cloak and dagger trade are not being made public.
. - Brad Guth

I am under the impression that people like Mook are so
freakin' wired that they've got things like "VoiceDragon" wired
to themselves - just in case someone comes along to
rock their ship-of-fools - he could actually be reading the
stuff while having VoiceDragon type out "his" data,
leaving most of us to wonder if he's actually got any
time at all left for work!

Can you imagine, there are probably thousands of Mooks
all over the internet spewing this stuff while wearing theirhttp://www.emotive.comheadsets .... They're adapting to
the "tech speak" faster than an interview with the local
Geek has ever nym-rodded off the grid!

American

"BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:0980539d-4cd5-458c-b27b-204f4e0f2e50@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 24, 4:22 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:



On Apr 24, 2:39 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 11:15 am, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining
a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking
for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated
multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the
gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on
their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing
super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no
good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her
diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with
their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good
of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane
conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws
of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable,
though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic
brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of
your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1, 2, 3 ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

It could be Mook himself, or it could be those MIB of his DARPA doing
their usual stealth form of group moderation so that secrets of their
cloak and dagger trade are not being made public.
. - Brad Guth

I am under the impression that people like Mook are so
freakin' wired that they've got things like "VoiceDragon" wired
to themselves - just in case someone comes along to
rock their ship-of-fools - he could actually be reading the
stuff while having VoiceDragon type out "his" data,
leaving most of us to wonder if he's actually got any
time at all left for work!

Can you imagine, there are probably thousands of Mooks
all over the internet spewing this stuff while wearing
theirhttp://www.emotive.comheadsets.... They're adapting to
the "tech speak" faster than an interview with the local
Geek has ever nym-rodded off the grid!

American

I've detected at least three Mooks. Some of the others using the same
Usenet Group name have the advantage of more than one soul to account
for their wordy and/or continual 24/7 coverage and replies on many
levels and across many groups at nearly the same time.

I can tell the difference in how they react or otherwise respond, as
though being of multiple individuals instead of one person per Usenet
account. These folks may be using the same computer terminal, but
apparently that's not even necessary if you're one of those spook/mole
insiders that can make their computer seem to us like it's situated
most anywhere in the world, making it next to impossible for most of
us to figure out if it's of one or multiple contributors.
. - Brad Guth

How about one person with multiple personalities?

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279

On Apr 24, 2:39 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 24, 11:15 am, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 2:04 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:38 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:44 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 23, 5:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Joseph Kekulé cracked the model for benzene after imagining
a
snake biting its own tail. Reverie states are fertile.

I workd in SETI in graduate school. It involves looking
for patterns
in static.

Which is probably how brains work.

lol. I can imagine the CIA taking the notes of a lunatic
and running it through some sort of sophisticated
multi-dimensional
fourier analysis. Getting an astronaut stoned to the
gills on orbit
and capturing digitally all the sketches he/she made on
their
electronic stylus pad - and analyzing it - then producing
super secret
reports and what not.

Actually getting paid to fuck with peoples' heads for no
good reason
is my idea of a dream job.

this explains the woman who drove cross country in her
diapers to
confront someone she was on ISS with. lol.

With the likes of willie.moo and his DARPA friends, along with
their
MI5/CIA and 'Skull and Bones' hidden agendas is about as good
of
clownism mind games as it gets.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And if you're bored, you can always read Guth's insane
conspiracy
theories

At least my theories are those based upon those pesky regular laws
of
physics, and otherwise upon the best available science and of
perfectly deductive observationology that's easily peer replicated
outside of your mainstream status quo.

At least technically surviving on Venus is biologically doable,
though
not per say in the buff and as dumbfounded past the point of no
return, as you'd insist being the one and only alternative.

At least my LSE-CM/ISS as physically tethered to our moon has been
technically doable for decades, without our having to reinvent the
wheel or having to intelligently engineer rad-hard DNA .

At least my clowns of truth are not those of the Semitic
brown-nosed
species, of Old Testament thumping minions working on behalf of
your
DARPA.
. - Brad Guth

testing, 1, 2, 3 ....

is this a post?

The last 12 didn't make it!

Hmmmm.

Why is it that I had to rejoin the group in order to post?

I've been trying to answer Mook's tirade on the "Heavy Lift for
Mining/Cargo Vessels" but to no avail... Mook's original post
was taken out. Is there a reason for this?

American

It could be Mook himself, or it could be those MIB of his DARPA doing
their usual stealth form of group moderation so that secrets of their
cloak and dagger trade are not being made public.
. - Brad Guth

I am under the impression that people like Mook are so
freakin' wired that they've got things like "VoiceDragon" wired
to themselves - just in case someone comes along to
rock their ship-of-fools - he could actually be reading the
stuff while having VoiceDragon type out "his" data,
leaving most of us to wonder if he's actually got any
time at all left for work!

Can you imagine, there are probably thousands of Mooks
all over the internet spewing this stuff while wearing
theirhttp://www.emotive.comheadsets .... They're adapting to
the "tech speak" faster than an interview with the local
Geek has ever nym-rodded off the grid!

American