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| Sanny |
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When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
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| BradGuth |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:44 am |
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On Apr 18, 11:19 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
Perhaps you'll become the first to know the answer, because Einstein
didn't have a clue.
I might care to rethink of those photons we see and of all those
photons we can't see as simply slow moving gravitons, or perhaps as
somewhat quantum string like items. Of course, this still doesn't
tell us specifically as to "what is light".
Is there even any such thing as an original photon, or is each and
every available photon merely a secondary/recoil result of gravitons
interacting with other gravitons, or of gravitons interacting with
mass?
Pure energy seems to create photons, but without available gravitons
it doesn't hardly matter, does it.
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| John Graeme |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:27 am |
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Sanny wrote:
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
It's confusing only if you insist on thinking that human concepts like
"particle" and "wave" are some fundamental aspect of nature. They are
human constructs for understanding nature. Light is light--Under some
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| Igor |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:28 am |
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On Apr 18, 2:19 pm, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
See, there's your problem. Passing out. Maybe if you'd have just
stayed awake, you would know. |
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| BradGuth |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:46 am |
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On Apr 18, 12:28 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 18, 2:19 pm, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
See, there's your problem. Passing out. Maybe if you'd have just
stayed awake, you would know.
Explain how photons can even exist/coexist w/o the strong force or
perhaps the dark force gravitons (aka matter).
.. - Brad Guth
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| kenseto |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:18 am |
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On Apr 18, 2:19 pm, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
I suggest that you look up the paper entitled "Past Experiments
Detecting Absolute Motion" in my website for a description of a photon
(page 3):
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm
Ken Seto |
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| dlzc |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:24 am |
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Dear Sanny:
On Apr 18, 11:19 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to
proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro
Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light
travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of
Electric & Magnetic Field? How can we say
they are perpendicular.
We can conduct the light through a medium, and the realtionship
changes. We can pass the light through different type of polatizers,
and verify the angle. We can review the requirements of Maxwell's
relations, and it provides their relationship.
Quote: Later I was told Light has photons and its
energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
Has Man ever understood Woman, or Woman Man? *There* is a complex
relationship.
Quote: After 12 years of my passing out of school
I still want to know whats the correct
description of light.
You have some good answers. Light is light. What you seek to
measure, is what light can become for you. Do not put faith in
words... "wave" and "particle" stand for experiences and not light.
David A. Smith |
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| BradGuth |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:41 am |
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On Apr 18, 12:52 pm, "Paul Mays" <Pa...@Mays.com> wrote:
Quote: "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a10db786-5f6a-4566-b4b8-2cb8c095450d@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 11:19 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
Perhaps you'll become the first to know the answer, because Einstein
didn't have a clue.
I might care to rethink of those photons we see and of all those
photons we can't see as simply slow moving gravitons, or perhaps as
somewhat quantum string like items. Of course, this still doesn't
tell us specifically as to "what is light".
Is there even any such thing as an original photon, or is each and
every available photon merely a secondary/recoil result of gravitons
interacting with other gravitons, or of gravitons interacting with
mass?
Pure energy seems to create photons, but without available gravitons
it doesn't hardly matter, does it.
. - Brad Guth
I gota definition I like too...
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Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation"
I like your interpretation as much as that one provided by '"dlzc".
However, if gravity/gravitons didn't exist, neither would the quantum
string like photon. In other words, without the spin of atoms, we got
nothing.
.. - Brad Guth |
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| CWatters |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:44 pm |
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"Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Both
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality |
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| Hagar |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:45 pm |
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"Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a120f99-9b32-4812-a8c4-14dd7753c55b@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at: http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
OK Sanny, here's the inside scoop:
Light comes from a tube.
The tube contains storage devices called batteries.
They in turn power a bulb or a few LEDs.
Now here's the critical part: There is a switch on the side.
ON means light (in Old Celtic) and OFF means no light.
It is very important not to get the two mixed up, since thinking ON means
OFF may cause a premature electron ejaculation by the batteries and then all
they want to do is lay around and smoke and drink beer.
Hope that helped you in your quest for the truth. |
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| Paul Mays |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:50 pm |
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"Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a120f99-9b32-4812-a8c4-14dd7753c55b@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Quote: When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at: http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
Light is a EM wave propagating through the Indefinable Energy Form
of the Quantum State (Aether,Zero Point Energy,Space/Time), Which
is the left over Indefinable Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified
Energy Form that was the Indefinable Unified Energy Form of BB fame,
the Quantum Point (Singularity, Chaos Point, Energy Quanta) and perceived
to be a Little Ball of Stuff due to Intrinsic Bias of the observer, any
device
designed to observe and the "Light" being observed when observed at
a short enough time frame.
But I could be Wrong....
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation" |
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| Paul Mays |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:51 pm |
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"Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a120f99-9b32-4812-a8c4-14dd7753c55b@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Both
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality
Sure about That?
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation" |
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| Paul Mays |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:52 pm |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Apr 18, 11:19 am, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:
When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
1. Light is a Wave
I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
Later I was Told
3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
can we say they are perpendicular.
Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
the correct description of light.
Bye
Sanny
Extreme Discussions at:http://www.getclub.com/Discussion.php
Perhaps you'll become the first to know the answer, because Einstein
didn't have a clue.
I might care to rethink of those photons we see and of all those
photons we can't see as simply slow moving gravitons, or perhaps as
somewhat quantum string like items. Of course, this still doesn't
tell us specifically as to "what is light".
Is there even any such thing as an original photon, or is each and
every available photon merely a secondary/recoil result of gravitons
interacting with other gravitons, or of gravitons interacting with
mass?
Pure energy seems to create photons, but without available gravitons
it doesn't hardly matter, does it.
. - Brad Guth
I gota definition I like too...
--
Paul R. Mays
"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I think I Know or I Do Not Know
I Never Believe... For to Believe is a Religious Incantation" |
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| Uncle Al |
| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:53 pm |
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Sanny wrote:
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Quote: Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
[snip rest of crap]
Education: that which discloses to the wise and disguises from the
foolish their lack of understanding. Mystics are baffled by the
obvious yet possess a complete understanding of the nonexistent.
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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| Sanny wrote:
| > When in School I learnt 2 things about Light
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| > 1. Light is a Wave
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| > I was shown Lenses and other Experiments to proove Light is a wave.
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| >
| > 2. When I grew up I was told Light is Electro Magnetic Wave.
| >
| > Later I was Told
| > 3. Magnetic and Electric Field in a light travel at 90`
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| > Can we Change the angle of movement of Electric & Magnetic Field? How
| > can we say they are perpendicular.
| >
| > Later I was told Light has photons and its energy is = h*u
| >
| > So light is a Particle moving at light Speed.
| >
| > Then I was told Light is both Particle and Wave
| >
| > Dont you feel things are getting Complex and Absurd.
| >
| > After 12 years of my passing out of school I still want to know whats
| > the correct description of light.
| >
| > Bye
| > Sanny
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| It's confusing only if you insist on thinking that human concepts like
| "particle" and "wave" are some fundamental aspect of nature. They are
| human constructs for understanding nature. Light is light--Under some
| conditions it has wave properties; under others particle properties.
Yes, well, I'm a passenger when on a plane but I'm a customer
of the airline when I buy a ticket. Being both and a father and
a motorist as well is as being an engineer is confusing for Sanny,
isn't it? Oh well, time for dinner, I'm about to be a chef. Good thing
I'm not a passenger anymore. |
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