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| Dave U.Random |
 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:09 am |
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"Makers of personal navigation devices are facing tough times
from keen competition—namely cell phones—and a weakening
economy..."
Business Week article: http://www.starturl.com/Lost |
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| Arne Schmitz |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:37 pm |
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Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
Quote: On Apr 9, 2:09 pm, Dave U.Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net
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"Makers of personal navigation devices are facing tough times
from keen competition--namely cell phones--and a weakening
economy..."
Business Week article:http://www.starturl.com/Lost
So -- I'm going to mount a cell phone on the dash of my car in place
of my GPS???
Or likewise I am going on a hike with my cellphone, which lasts not even a
day when using GPS? And will break down if I (or it) get a bit wet? :)
Well, granted: The outdoor GPS devices will now turn back to being just
that -- outdoor GPS devices.
Arne
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| Edwin Pawlowski |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:06 pm |
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"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5135485f-da0b-4850-a06a-0473e46273dd@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Apr 9, 2:09 pm, Dave U.Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net
wrote:
"Makers of personal navigation devices are facing tough times
from keen competition--namely cell phones--and a weakening
economy..."
Business Week article:http://www.starturl.com/Lost
So -- I'm going to mount a cell phone on the dash of my car in place
of my GPS???
Right.
Depends on your needs. We've survived for many years using maps, then
Mapquest, now GPS. Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map. The GPS is
nice to find that particular street though. If a cellphone that I already
own can do it cheap, I have a hard time justifying a $500 dedicated GPS
unit. Maybe others do to.
Even better, I use my Nuvi today, the first time in a couple of months. It
took me to 1 Lakeshore Drive, not Lakeshore Center that was not listed.
Using intuition I found the right place on the opposite side of the street a
1/4 mile away.
I'm sure some will find that the cell phone is OK, but a dedicated GPS must
be even better. That would increase sales. We'll have to wait and see. |
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| Happy Trails |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:56 pm |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:06:15 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
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Quote: If a cellphone that I already
own can do it cheap, I have a hard time justifying a $500 dedicated GPS
unit. Maybe others do to.
Hey - the advantage of getting the cellphone gps sending you to the
wrong address is that you don't have to go looking for a phone to call
the guy your supposed to meet and ask him where the heck is he,
hahaha! |
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| Mike Lane |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:46 am |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:06:15 +0100, Edwin Pawlowski wrote
(in article <HufLj.1904$%V7.214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>):
Quote: Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map.
Incredible!
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane |
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| Dan |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:06 am |
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Hi,
I have a TomTom1. It tried to drown me twice, took me to a goat track
heading up the side of a mountain when I was towing a caravan, and told me
to go straight on when I approached a T junction with a 30 foot bank facing
me. I don't trust my Tommy.
It is my view that the manufacturer that first guarantees to provide 6
monthly map updates at a very reasonable price will wipe the opposition off
the board.
Cheers, and safe travelling. Dan |
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| Paul Catchpole |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:06 pm |
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I have a cell phone (well PDA actually- TyTan II) with a built-in GPS. It is
pathetic. The unit itself accepts data from a Bluetooth GPS which is fine,
but I think the built-in software has been pared to the bare bones - even
with an external antenna it struggles to get a fix. |
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| Edwin Pawlowski |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:17 pm |
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"Mike Lane" <invalid@mac.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C423928700077C55B01AD9AF@news.cable.ntlworld.com...
Quote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:06:15 +0100, Edwin Pawlowski wrote
(in article <HufLj.1904$%V7.214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>):
Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map.
Incredible!
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
Not really, Mike. If I get onto the Mass Turnpike to go to Albany, New
York, I can read the signs that tell me NY is west from here. Then I just
follow the signs that tell me Albany is 163 miles until they get down to
about 1 mile. At that point, the signs are telling me to follow that road
to Buffalo, NY. Once in Albany, I need to know better directions and a
detailed map or GPS is very handy for that.
Get on the Autostrade in Milan and signs already point to Bologna, then
Firenze, then Rome.
Not having been to North Yorkshire yet, I don't know the signage where you
are. I would hope from Heathrow I'd see a sign for Nottingham on the M1 and
I'd then know I'm getting close to North Yorkshire. Actually, I'll be
starting in Kensington.
See you for tea.
I was hoping to be in London tomorrow as my niece is running in the Marathon
this weekend. Care to help out?
www.justgiving.com/shonamacintyre |
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| Happy Trails |
| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:03 am |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:17:25 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:
Quote:
"Mike Lane" <invalid@mac.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C423928700077C55B01AD9AF@news.cable.ntlworld.com...
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:06:15 +0100, Edwin Pawlowski wrote
(in article <HufLj.1904$%V7.214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>):
Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map.
Incredible!
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
Not really, Mike.
I think he might have implied just a slight touch of sarcasm there,
Eddie! |
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| Mike Lane |
| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:17 am |
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:03:58 +0100, Happy Trails wrote
(in article <r7stv317a1jrbcj4vnrqm07bilsllbl0u8@4ax.com>):
Quote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:17:25 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net
wrote:
"Mike Lane" <invalid@mac.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C423928700077C55B01AD9AF@news.cable.ntlworld.com...
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:06:15 +0100, Edwin Pawlowski wrote
(in article <HufLj.1904$%V7.214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>):
Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map.
Incredible!
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
Not really, Mike.
I think he might have implied just a slight touch of sarcasm there,
Eddie!
What me? Never ;-)
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane |
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| Michael Heiming |
| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:02 pm |
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In sci.geo.satellite-nav Edwin Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>:
Quote: "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5135485f-da0b-4850-a06a-0473e46273dd@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 9, 2:09 pm, Dave U.Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net
wrote:
"Makers of personal navigation devices are facing tough times
from keen competition--namely cell phones--and a weakening
economy..."
Business Week article:http://www.starturl.com/Lost
So -- I'm going to mount a cell phone on the dash of my car in place
of my GPS???
Right.
Depends on your needs. We've survived for many years using maps, then
Mapquest, now GPS. Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map. The GPS is
nice to find that particular street though. If a cellphone that I already
own can do it cheap, I have a hard time justifying a $500 dedicated GPS
unit. Maybe others do to.
I get sick from those devices:
http://www.bioinitiative.org/ + http://www.brain-surgery.us/
Quote: Even better, I use my Nuvi today, the first time in a couple of months. It
took me to 1 Lakeshore Drive, not Lakeshore Center that was not listed.
Using intuition I found the right place on the opposite side of the street a
1/4 mile away.
Also have a nuvi, was one of the few devices available without FM
sender and bluetooth. Works quite nice, even got a map update DVD
from Garmin lately fro free, thanks! If I would just know now how
to use it if you use Linux?
[..]
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Michael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94)
mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' |
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| Edwin Pawlowski |
| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:40 pm |
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"Happy Trails" <nomail@myplace.com> wrote in message
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
Not really, Mike.
I think he might have implied just a slight touch of sarcasm there,
Eddie!
Yes, but a surprising number of people can't get to the next town without
step by step instructions.
I work with a guy, very smart, but can't navigate. Last Christmas he went
to the mall and got lost on the way home by about 100 miles. Honest, had he
not reached Long Island Sound he'd probably still be going straight. |
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| SBH |
| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:01 am |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I work with a guy, very smart, but can't navigate. Last Christmas he went
to the mall and got lost on the way home by about 100 miles. Honest, had
he not reached Long Island Sound he'd probably still be going straight.
100 miles out of the way and you call him smart? LMAO |
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| P.Schuman |
| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:11 am |
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Quote: "Makers of personal navigation devices are facing tough times
from keen competition--namely cell phones--and a weakening
economy..."
Business Week article:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2008/tc2008048_819969.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_top+stories
Quote: So -- I'm going to mount a cell phone on the dash of my car in place
of my GPS???
Right.
Depends on your needs. We've survived for many years using maps, then
Mapquest, now GPS. Often, I can drive to a city hundreds of miles away
just
following road signs and what I remember from looking at a map. The GPS
is
nice to find that particular street though. If a cellphone that I
already
own can do it cheap, I have a hard time justifying a $500 dedicated GPS
unit. Maybe others do to.
I get sick from those devices:
http://www.bioinitiative.org/ + http://www.brain-surgery.us/
Even better, I use my Nuvi today, the first time in a couple of months.
It
took me to 1 Lakeshore Drive, not Lakeshore Center that was not listed.
Using intuition I found the right place on the opposite side of the
street a
1/4 mile away.
Also have a nuvi, was one of the few devices available without FM
sender and bluetooth. Works quite nice, even got a map update DVD
from Garmin lately fro free, thanks! If I would just know now how
to use it if you use Linux?
[..]
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Michael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94)
mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' |
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| Mark F |
| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:55 am |
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Michael Heiming wrote:
Driven by hysteria and susperstition.
In my opinion, and those of "real" researchers.... /m |
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