Patriot Games wrote:
"Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

Who cares about a tax credit?

Take out a second mortgage.

Buy your little earth-saving car with that cash.

Deduct the interest on the second mortgage from your taxes.

(That's like getting a tax credit, only bigger, year after year after
year...)

try for a sub prime mortgage, minority preferential, government backed
loan. That way when you can't make the payments, the government won't
throw you under the bus.- Hide quoted text -

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On Apr 8, 10:36 am, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
ViperSpit wrote:
"Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
I highly RECOMMEND this vehicle, it's my daily driver and has not failed me
yet.
I recommend you forget hybrid.... The diesel Jetta gets 52mpg on the
Hwy with 2 people and a weeks luggage. I was amazed, and the car
doesn't need to be launched into space by NASA for repairs.... it's not
futuristic crap on wheels. Good basic transport with better real world
economics than the hybrids when it comes to real use like HWY driving.





http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=119237
it's really cool to see the little LIBRULs fall off their BICYCYLES when you
pass
within about an inch of their handleBARS at 50 mph.- Hide quoted text -
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Yup,It's noisy as hell,stinks to high heaven and would'nt pull a
greasy string out of a sick cats ass.Wherever you drive that turd make
sure it's always down hill !!.

On Apr 8, 1:49 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
Mercellus Bohren wrote:
On Apr 8, 12:35 pm, heylookat...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 10:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
Be careful. Just because you get a hybrid does not automatically mean
you get a tax break or even get one at all. We bought a 2007 Prius
last year and the tax credit was $0.00
Fixing that thing could cost you so much more than a regular car that a
really nice tax credit will be used up in repairs really fast.


I've heard of these things called "warrantees." I'm not sure what they
are exactly, but, I've heard they include repairs for new items once
purchases. Wikipedia might explain it better. I've heard "extended"
warrantees are for losers though.

I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

"Mercellus Bohren" <mercellusb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:222ddb46-4373-4460-a3f5-1f1d87f43b94@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

Who cares about a tax credit?

Take out a second mortgage.

Buy your little earth-saving car with that cash.

Deduct the interest on the second mortgage from your taxes.

(That's like getting a tax credit, only bigger, year after year after
year...)

try for a sub prime mortgage, minority preferential, government backed

On Apr 8, 5:25 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
Mercellus Bohren wrote:
On Apr 8, 1:49 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
Mercellus Bohren wrote:
On Apr 8, 12:35 pm, heylookat...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 10:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?
Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
Be careful. Just because you get a hybrid does not automatically mean
you get a tax break or even get one at all. We bought a 2007 Prius
last year and the tax credit was $0.00
Fixing that thing could cost you so much more than a regular car that a
really nice tax credit will be used up in repairs really fast.
I've heard of these things called "warrantees." I'm not sure what they
are exactly, but, I've heard they include repairs for new items once
purchases. Wikipedia might explain it better. I've heard "extended"
warrantees are for losers though.
cool, everybody will sell them when the warranty runs out, that will
fill the market with used ones and "if it is" costly to fix then no one
will want them so resale values go down and you can add that to the cost
of running it.

huh?

I generally don't buy extended warranties on anything, this is one case
I would actually research it.

Do they lease those hybrids? 3 year lease with 3 year warranty might be
a plan. I might go that way, but owning it is not all that appealing to
me. I see them around, and they have potential, they just haven't proven
cost effective to me yet.

You don't get the tax credit on leased vehicles.

The Diesel Jetta with 52mpg and proven economic viability, makes more
sense. But hey if you have cash to burn then spend it like you stole
it.... I worked for mine so I'm happy to spend it, if I get what I want.

I may look at the diesel Jetta. Is it the new diesel engine that is
low pollution?

I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

bill wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

You're living in a dream world. 2-4 years? LOL Maybe in a socialist
country, but not in America.

-JC

rich hammett wrote:
In rec.sport.football.college Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
bill wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

You're living in a dream world. 2-4 years? LOL Maybe in a socialist
country, but not in America.

Socialist countries have better engineers?

I dunno. Japan is certainly more socialist than the U.S., no? But I
was speaking more to CAFE standards and the U.S. infrastructure, which
is much more slower moving than a more socialist country.

But back to this idea of 2-4 years, 100+ mpg line: First of all, where
does *most* of the energy come that charges these lithium-ion batteries?
Answer: the burning of fossil fuels. Of course, there are costs
involved in charging your battery and any mpg figure would have to be
weighted against that reality. As far as the 100+ figure...this is
really a figure given under test-only conditions. Realistically, your
talking a maximum of probably 65 mpg under the most optimum road
conditions (long freeway miles). But again, that's not factoring in the
costs associated with charging your vehicle as well as the price for the
vehicle itself, which will likely take a lifetime to catch up to the
savings one would get from owning such a vehicle. The worst thing to do
would be to buy any of these vehicles until that are mass produced, if
and when that ever happens.

IMO, this is hardly a long-term solution to our fuel needs.

-JC

On Apr 12, 2:19 pm, Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:



rich hammett wrote:
In rec.sport.football.college Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
bill wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

You're living in a dream world. 2-4 years? LOL Maybe in a socialist
country, but not in America.

Socialist countries have better engineers?

I dunno. Japan is certainly more socialist than the U.S., no? But I
was speaking more to CAFE standards and the U.S. infrastructure, which
is much more slower moving than a more socialist country.

But back to this idea of 2-4 years, 100+ mpg line: First of all, where
does *most* of the energy come that charges these lithium-ion batteries?
Answer: the burning of fossil fuels. Of course, there are costs
involved in charging your battery and any mpg figure would have to be
weighted against that reality. As far as the 100+ figure...this is
really a figure given under test-only conditions. Realistically, your
talking a maximum of probably 65 mpg under the most optimum road
conditions (long freeway miles). But again, that's not factoring in the
costs associated with charging your vehicle as well as the price for the
vehicle itself, which will likely take a lifetime to catch up to the
savings one would get from owning such a vehicle. The worst thing to do
would be to buy any of these vehicles until that are mass produced, if
and when that ever happens.

IMO, this is hardly a long-term solution to our fuel needs.

-JC

The slow rate of change in US infrastructure compared to some of the
"more socialist" nations is due to issues of scale.

On Apr 12, 2:34 pm, bill <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote:



On Apr 12, 2:19 pm, Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:

rich hammett wrote:
In rec.sport.football.college Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
bill wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!
keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

You're living in a dream world. 2-4 years? LOL Maybe in a socialist
country, but not in America.

Socialist countries have better engineers?

I dunno. Japan is certainly more socialist than the U.S., no? But I
was speaking more to CAFE standards and the U.S. infrastructure, which
is much more slower moving than a more socialist country.

But back to this idea of 2-4 years, 100+ mpg line: First of all, where
does *most* of the energy come that charges these lithium-ion batteries?
Answer: the burning of fossil fuels. Of course, there are costs
involved in charging your battery and any mpg figure would have to be
weighted against that reality. As far as the 100+ figure...this is
really a figure given under test-only conditions. Realistically, your
talking a maximum of probably 65 mpg under the most optimum road
conditions (long freeway miles). But again, that's not factoring in the
costs associated with charging your vehicle as well as the price for the
vehicle itself, which will likely take a lifetime to catch up to the
savings one would get from owning such a vehicle. The worst thing to do
would be to buy any of these vehicles until that are mass produced, if
and when that ever happens.

IMO, this is hardly a long-term solution to our fuel needs.

-JC

The slow rate of change in US infrastructure compared to some of the
"more socialist" nations is due to issues of scale.

China's moving pretty fast and they're Communist. In fact, they're
moving so fast, we might all start learning some Mandarin so that we
can understand what's in the car showrooms and on the shelves in the
local Walmart.

On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

The  Chevy Tahoe Hybrid gets around 21mpg.  Can't get close to beating
that.

On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

bill wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:09 am, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to buy a hybrid vehicle in 2008. Does anyone know what type
of hybrid vehicle will get me the biggest tax credit when tax time
rolls around in 2009?

Thanks for any useful information. Trolls and other ner-do-wells
should stop and consider any hurtful replies!

keep driving the car you have now. save your money for a phev when
they come out. why switch from 28 to 38 now when you can wait 2-4
years and switch to 100+.

You're living in a dream world. 2-4 years? LOL Maybe in a socialist
country, but not in America.