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| Christina Websell |
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:06 pm |
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<shnuz@netscape.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?
I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I
have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.
Tina
I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet
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We can only get this from a vet here, so what I posted is what I was told by
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:10 am |
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On Apr 6, 4:13 pm, trtena...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote: Interesting as mine have leg mites, too and the vaseline treatments
have not really worked.
On Apr 6, 10:27 am, "sh...@netscape.com" <sh...@netscape.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com....
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?
I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.
Tina
I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
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IVERMECTIN , My first chickens had leg mites when I bought them.
Little did I know. The old remedies, kerosene and linseed oil did
nothing good or bad. The vet originally told me to use the IVERMECTIN
for the mites. By the time I used it the mites were severe. After I
treated the bantams with ivermectin, the mites were gone in a week.
Araucana eggs are selling at Whole Foods (upscale) for $3.00 per HALF
DOZEN. That would be .50 per egg.
They say "the blue eggs taste creamier" What bull. They are coming
from a free range farm. |
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| Christina Websell |
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:59 pm |
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<shnuz@netscape.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?
I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I
have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.
Tina
I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet.
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust them to
tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no question
about giving it orally. |
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| Jill |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:40 am |
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Christina Websell wrote:
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Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
There are two types available here as well - topical and oral.
The oral has been used for many years for many species. Neither has been
certified for chickens yet.
We have Flubenvet that is more commonly prescribed for worms. When they have
a certified option, they usually use it.
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regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| A_ L _P |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:05 am |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: Christina Websell wrote:
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
There are two types available here as well - topical and oral.
The oral has been used for many years for many species. Neither has been
certified for chickens yet.
We have Flubenvet that is more commonly prescribed for worms. When they have
a certified option, they usually use it.
A-ha, that explains it. What I got - swapped for eggs actually - from a
friend with a small farmlet was a pour-on drench. Same as I'd had from
a vet clinic but it was a bit of a favour and next time the person I'd
got it from had gone to another job. Probably the same active
ingredient but the other things that make it work externally, or
internally, could be harmful if used the opposite way. The skin one has
to penetrate the skin and be absorbed quickly. The internal one
probably has buffers to prevent its absorption in (say) the mouth, and
other substances to prevent burn of internal tissues or upsetting the pH
balance etc etc.
A L P |
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| Christina Websell |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:34 pm |
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" Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Christina Websell wrote:
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
I never had scaly leg here until I lent a cockerel out, he came back with it
and spread it around. Note to self: keep your chickens to yourself and stop
being kind.
I can't get rid of it now. Despite doing my best to treat it one of my App
hens has lost two toes. |
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| Jill |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:22 pm |
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Christina Websell wrote:
Quote: " Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
I never had scaly leg here until I lent a cockerel out, he came back
with it and spread it around. Note to self: keep your chickens to
yourself and stop being kind.
ouch
Quote: I can't get rid of it now. Despite doing my best to treat it one of
my App hens has lost two toes.
mega ouch.
What else have you tried, out of interest?
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Christina Websell |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:07 pm |
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" Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Christina Websell wrote:
" Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:66drkdF2jojohU1@mid.individual.net...
Christina Websell wrote:
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
I never had scaly leg here until I lent a cockerel out, he came back
with it and spread it around. Note to self: keep your chickens to
yourself and stop being kind.
ouch
I can't get rid of it now. Despite doing my best to treat it one of
my App hens has lost two toes.
mega ouch.
What else have you tried, out of interest?
Benzyle benzoate (sp?) surgical spirit, vaseline. Even the Ivermectin didn't
work on this one.
It's a bummer to have it in my flock now. All mine were perfect until I
loaned that rare breed cock out to help someone. We live and learn. |
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| A_ L _P |
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:24 pm |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: Christina Websell wrote:
" Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:66drkdF2jojohU1@mid.individual.net...
Christina Websell wrote:
Since Ivermectin can only be got from a vet here in the UK, I trust
them to tell me what to do with it, TBH.
This is a spot on for scaly leg in chickens. so says my vet, no
question about giving it orally.
Maybe because that is what you presented.
I never had scaly leg here until I lent a cockerel out, he came back
with it and spread it around. Note to self: keep your chickens to
yourself and stop being kind.
ouch
I can't get rid of it now. Despite doing my best to treat it one of
my App hens has lost two toes.
mega ouch.
What else have you tried, out of interest?
As a bit of lateral thinking (?) I was wondering - the idea is to stifle
the little buzz-tards under the scales on the legs so it needs
something that will flow. For people with not many chooks in the
backyard, would spray-on cooking oil do the job?
I have a little bottle with a nozzle, like an oiling the hinges etc oil
bottle. I put in a mixture of baby oil and whatever (have to refill it,
what will I choose this time?) such as a few drops of tea tree oil, some
kero, unloved skin-care product..... With the fine nozzle it's easy to
go down each toe and make sure each is wetted. I've also used cooking
oil but it tends to go thick in the colder weather and doesn't flow so
well.
What about a few drops of detergent or some kind of sticker-spreader
such as is used in fruit tree sprays, and would it mix in the kero or
perhaps a tsp of meths? These are ideas flowing straight from
imagination to keyboard without being processed by brain, if you know
what I mean......
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| Jill |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:44 am |
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A_ L _P wrote:
Quote: mega ouch.
What else have you tried, out of interest?
As a bit of lateral thinking (?) I was wondering - the idea is to
stifle the little buzz-tards under the scales on the legs so it needs
something that will flow. For people with not many chooks in the
backyard, would spray-on cooking oil do the job?
I have a little bottle with a nozzle, like an oiling the hinges etc
oil bottle. I put in a mixture of baby oil and whatever (have to
refill it, what will I choose this time?) such as a few drops of tea
tree oil, some kero, unloved skin-care product..... With the fine
nozzle it's easy to go down each toe and make sure each is wetted. I've
also used cooking oil but it tends to go thick in the colder
weather and doesn't flow so well.
What about a few drops of detergent or some kind of sticker-spreader
such as is used in fruit tree sprays, and would it mix in the kero or
perhaps a tsp of meths? These are ideas flowing straight from
imagination to keyboard without being processed by brain, if you know
what I mean......
add some research on tinternet as to a precise time for the cycle of the
little <bleeps> so as to catch the emergents as soon as possible at each
cycle before they do more damage?
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| A_ L _P |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:58 am |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: A_ L _P wrote:
mega ouch. What else have you tried, out of interest?
As a bit of lateral thinking (?) I was wondering - the idea is to
stifle the little buzz-tards under the scales on the legs so it
needs something that will flow. For people with not many chooks in
the backyard, would spray-on cooking oil do the job?
I have a little bottle with a nozzle, like an oiling the hinges etc
oil bottle. I put in a mixture of baby oil and whatever (have to
refill it, what will I choose this time?) such as a few drops of
tea tree oil, some kero, unloved skin-care product..... With the
fine nozzle it's easy to go down each toe and make sure each is
wetted. I've also used cooking oil but it tends to go thick in the
colder weather and doesn't flow so well.
What about a few drops of detergent or some kind of
sticker-spreader such as is used in fruit tree sprays, and would it
mix in the kero or perhaps a tsp of meths? These are ideas flowing
straight from imagination to keyboard without being processed by
brain, if you know what I mean......
add some research on tinternet as to a precise time for the cycle of
the little <bleeps> so as to catch the emergents as soon as possible
at each cycle before they do more damage?
Oh, hadn't thought of that. I thought one drowning in oil was supposed
to get shot of them. Always wondered how they kept getting scaly again!
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| Jill |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:20 am |
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A_ L _P wrote:
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add some research on tinternet as to a precise time for the cycle of
the little <bleeps> so as to catch the emergents as soon as possible
at each cycle before they do more damage?
Oh, hadn't thought of that. I thought one drowning in oil was
supposed to get shot of them. Always wondered how they kept getting
scaly again!
Common mistake with all parasite control, internal and external.
If there are adults there will be eggs and larvae. All species have
different lengths to each stage.
Few treatments do all life stages. Thats why Poultry Shield is so effective,
especially against red mite, as it gets at the clusters of eggs and pupae as
well as dealing with the larvae & adults.
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regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| A_ L _P |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:33 am |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: A_ L _P wrote:
add some research on tinternet as to a precise time for the cycle
of the little <bleeps> so as to catch the emergents as soon as
possible at each cycle before they do more damage?
Oh, hadn't thought of that. I thought one drowning in oil was
supposed to get shot of them. Always wondered how they kept
getting scaly again!
Common mistake with all parasite control, internal and external.
If there are adults there will be eggs and larvae. All species have
different lengths to each stage. Few treatments do all life stages.
Thats why Poultry Shield is so effective, especially against red
mite, as it gets at the clusters of eggs and pupae as well as dealing
with the larvae & adults.
Poultry Shield, eh? I wonder if it's available here... I know - I'll
google it in the "shopping" search....
Nifty Products Poultry Shield
Stainless steel. Keeps poultry moist. Keeps the stuffing from drying
out. Holds legs in place. For poultry up to 30 lbs. No more lacing.
Dishwasher safe. ...
Hmm, I wonder if Jill has lost her marbles. Perhaps she sneaks around
her chook-house at night hitting the mites with it.
Perhaps I should try googling it in the ordinary search.
:-)
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| Jill |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:42 am |
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A_ L _P wrote:
Quote: If there are adults there will be eggs and larvae. All species have
different lengths to each stage. Few treatments do all life stages.
Thats why Poultry Shield is so effective, especially against red
mite, as it gets at the clusters of eggs and pupae as well as dealing
with the larvae & adults.
Poultry Shield, eh? I wonder if it's available here... I know - I'll
google it in the "shopping" search....
Nifty Products Poultry Shield
Stainless steel. Keeps poultry moist. Keeps the stuffing from drying
out. Holds legs in place. For poultry up to 30 lbs. No more lacing.
Dishwasher safe. ...
Hmm, I wonder if Jill has lost her marbles.
did that LONG ago
Perhaps she sneaks around
Quote: her chook-house at night hitting the mites with it.
giggle
Quote:
Perhaps I should try googling it in the ordinary search.
'haps.
let me know if you cannot get it and I will see what the export situation is
on it.
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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