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Guest
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:51 am
Hen is about a year old, unknown breed; looks pretty healthy. Poop was
watery with small air bubbles and 1 or 2 possibly white or translucent
worm like creatures, about 1/2mm thin (1/4 of a 1/16") and a few
milimeters long (2 sixteenths of an inch).
Guest
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:43 am
On Apr 3, 1:12 pm, " Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
trtena...@gmail.com wrote:
Hen is about a year old, unknown breed; looks pretty healthy. Poop was
watery with small air bubbles and 1 or 2 possibly white or translucent
worm like creatures, about 1/2mm thin (1/4 of a 1/16") and a few
milimeters long (2 sixteenths of an inch).

so what have you treated her and the rest of the flock with?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment,  Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotlandhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

I just saw it for the first time. I did not do anything yet.
Jill
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:12 pm
Guest
trtenator@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Hen is about a year old, unknown breed; looks pretty healthy. Poop was
watery with small air bubbles and 1 or 2 possibly white or translucent
worm like creatures, about 1/2mm thin (1/4 of a 1/16") and a few
milimeters long (2 sixteenths of an inch).

so what have you treated her and the rest of the flock with?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
shnuz@netscape.com
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:30 am
Guest
On Apr 3, 4:43 pm, trtena...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 3, 1:12 pm, " Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:





trtena...@gmail.com wrote:
Hen is about a year old, unknown breed; looks pretty healthy. Poop was
watery with small air bubbles and 1 or 2 possibly white or translucent
worm like creatures, about 1/2mm thin (1/4 of a 1/16") and a few
milimeters long (2 sixteenths of an inch).

so what have you treated her and the rest of the flock with?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment,  Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotlandhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

I just saw it for the first time. I did not do anything yet.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My vet told me to use inject-able ivamectin ORALLY. For bantams 3
drops and for large birds, 5-7 drops. I have had birds autopsied and i
can tell you , that although they are free range, there were no
parasites. dorothy
Guest
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:21 am
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?



On Apr 4, 11:30 am, "sh...@netscape.com" <sh...@netscape.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 3, 4:43 pm, trtena...@gmail.com wrote:





On Apr 3, 1:12 pm, " Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:

trtena...@gmail.com wrote:
Hen is about a year old, unknown breed; looks pretty healthy. Poop was
watery with small air bubbles and 1 or 2 possibly white or translucent
worm like creatures, about 1/2mm thin (1/4 of a 1/16") and a few
milimeters long (2 sixteenths of an inch).

so what have you treated her and the rest of the flock with?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment,  Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotlandhttp://www.kintaline.co.uk

I just saw it for the first time. I did not do anything yet.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My vet told me to use  inject-able ivamectin ORALLY. For bantams 3
drops and for large birds, 5-7 drops. I have had birds autopsied and i
can tell you , that although they are free range, there were no
parasites. dorothy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Christina Websell
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:16 pm
Guest
<trtenator@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.

Tina
Jill
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:21 am
Guest
Christina Websell wrote:
Quote:
trtenator@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally,

There are oral versions of Ivermectin but none are licensed for poultry.
They are common for sheep and for horses and such livestock.
As you say, only ever to be given under veterinary direction - as directed
for the birds requiring the treatment
Hopefully as the domestic poultry world grows the drug companies will see
the financial benefit of testing and licencing for poultry. I would suspect
that the increase in commercial free range flocks will also prove a driving
force as they are going to be increasingly bothered by parasites.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6627613-description.html
shows that some are thinking about it.


--
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
shnuz@netscape.com
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:27 am
Guest
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I have
also used.  They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot.  Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough.  It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.

Tina

I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet.
Guest
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:13 am
Interesting as mine have leg mites, too and the vaseline treatments
have not really worked.



On Apr 6, 10:27 am, "sh...@netscape.com" <sh...@netscape.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"





spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I have
also used.  They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot.  Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough.  It's a spot on..
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.

Tina

I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
enigma
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:48 pm
Guest
trtenator@gmail.com wrote in
news:9a35c7ae-e875-490d-895f-29e6e4c4ad86@n1g2000prb.googlegro
ups.com:

Quote:
Interesting as mine have leg mites, too and the vaseline
treatments have not really worked.

try baby oil on the legs & keep reapplying it at least
weekly. also clean the barn, especially around the perches &
spray with an oil based spray, concentrating on the undersides
of perches, & the walls around the perches (especially cracks)
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.
Jill
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:30 pm
Guest
trtenator@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Interesting as mine have leg mites, too and the vaseline treatments
have not really worked.

Vaseline alone rarely works.

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
Jill
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:31 pm
Guest
A_ L _P wrote:
And
Quote:
precisely what was the Ivamectin

For those wanting to do their own research its IVERMECTIN

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
A_ L _P
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:05 pm
Guest
shnuz@netscape.com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which I have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.

Tina


I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet.

Interesting. What dosage - ml per kg or pound - did you use? And
precisely what was the Ivamectin brand/strength/formulation, as it may
be that there are various strengths available so knowing what was on the
label of the one you used would be helpful.

I have only used it as an external treatment and what I used was some I
got from a friend who had it for exterior treatment of sheep.

A L P
Ginny
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:28 pm
Guest
A_ L _P wrote:
Quote:
shnuz@netscape.com wrote:
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, "Christina Websell"
spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

trtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1029bb33-96ca-496c-922c-ed54ffb170b8@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Is the same med used on any worms.
Is the consensus to use ivamectin orally?

I've never heard of ivamectin being used orally, nor noramectin which
I have
also used. They are used as "spot on" treatments, part the feathers
on the
back of the neck of your chickens and apply as many drops as your vet
recommends for the size of your chickens.
It does the lot. Worms, lice, scaly leg, any parasites, gone.
It's not licensed for chickens, anyway, it's at your own risk if your
vet
lets you have it, it's for cattle.
DO NOT GIVE IT ORALLY. I cannot emphasise this enough. It's a spot on.
Usenet can be dangerous when people give advice when they don't know
what
they are talking about.
I hope you haven't given this orally yet.
Let me know.

Tina


I've been giving it orally for years. My first chickens had leg mites.
gone in a week. I asked my vet if I could use it topically. He said it
wouldn't work. Since there is a difference of opinion, maybe you
should ask a vet.

Interesting. What dosage - ml per kg or pound - did you use? And
precisely what was the Ivamectin brand/strength/formulation, as it may
be that there are various strengths available so knowing what was on the
label of the one you used would be helpful.

I have only used it as an external treatment and what I used was some I
got from a friend who had it for exterior treatment of sheep.

A L P


Ivermectin (or any 'mectin for that matter) is available in pour-on,
injectable or oral for cattle, sheep, goats and most large farm animals.
None are registered for use on poultry so if you choose to use it, it
is at your own risk.

There are also clear (Broad Spectrum), combination (BS), narrow spectrum
and white (BS) drenches available for the large farm animals. Levamisole
(clear BS) is the only one I can buy registered for poultry and it is
oral (put in the water), put out by Coopers(IIRC) called Pig & Poultry
Wormer.

Check here for cattle and sheep doses and if you choose to go ahead work
out the weight of your chook and use a very small syringe to administer
oral by mouth or pour-on on the skin.

Sheep oral 'mectin' drenches:

http://www.petalia.com.au/tools/index.cfm?action=drenchSelector&tool_type_id=5&species_id=9&species=Sheep&Submit.x=24&Submit.y=10

Cattle pour-on 'mectin' drenches:

http://www.petalia.com.au/tools/index.cfm?action=drenchSelector&tool_type_id=5&species_id=7&species=Cattle&Submit.x=24&Submit.y=8


--
Ginny - in West Australia
Jill
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:37 am
Guest
enigma wrote:
Quote:
trtenator@gmail.com wrote in
news:9a35c7ae-e875-490d-895f-29e6e4c4ad86@n1g2000prb.googlegro
ups.com:

Interesting as mine have leg mites, too and the vaseline
treatments have not really worked.

try baby oil on the legs & keep reapplying it at least
weekly. also clean the barn, especially around the perches &
spray with an oil based spray, concentrating on the undersides
of perches, & the walls around the perches (especially cracks)
lee

Using White spirit before applying the oil on the legs is much more
effective - the white spirit gets up into the scales and gets the mites
the vaseline smothers anything that moves down the leg and helps to
recondition the scales

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
 
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