Biofuel production harms the environment by needlessly eroding topsoil
and encouraging the destruction of forests, which are desperately
needed to soak up excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

In a rare moment of self-awareness :

MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.  There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy.  In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place?  The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.

See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html

See all the biofuel facts at -http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

What you should remember is that [I am] a perpetual LIAR.

I can only speak about 2 of the countries you list, the UK as I
currently live here and there are no street protests about bio fuels,
and in Zimbabwe there is no food on the shelves due to the 100,000%
inflation the country has due to the mishandling of the economy by the
83 year old nutter who runs the country, by the time farms have
harvested food to be sold the price they sell for is less then it
actually cost them to make the food in the first place. So if those 2
countries on your list are wrong then maybe the others are as well.

What you should remember is that [I am] a perpetual LIAR.

On Apr 2, 5:51 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-





Dog.com> wrote:
sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India, Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy.  In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place?  The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
  Cite Al's participation, please.
    "Dramatic food price inflation"
           (words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets  and that is causing food to
be turned into fuel,
  ROFLMAO  How, exactly?  Magic?  Loaded pistol?

  Your sandwich is made of fail.

You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).

How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.

Because you don't do much thinking.

Do you know what corn syrup is?

Yes.  I believe it's made from corn, idiot.

What it's used for, what grains and corn
  are added to in the food supply.

Do you even know how to make alcohol.

Alcohol is booze, not biofuel idiot.

 It's ETHANOL (a specific type of alcohol), that's useful as biofuel.

 The only two crops used to make it are corn and sugar.

And those crops use land and other resources that could have been

Fuck, how did you ever graduate from high school?  I'm assuming of
course, that you did.

I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge.

LOL!  LIke you're one to brag.

"calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.  There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy.  In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place?  The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.

See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html

See all the biofuel facts at -http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

     The US does not import much feedstock for ethanol
production, so why should the US ethanol industry be
named a factor in world food supplies?

     Higher prices should increase world farm activity,
which can only be a good thing,

more farmers making more money, and not buying cheap
US food.

     Why do you distort reality?

On Apr 2, 5:51 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-





Dog.com> wrote:
sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food
to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?

Your sandwich is made of fail.

You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).

How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.

Because you don't do much thinking.

Do you know what corn syrup is?

Yes. I believe it's made from corn, idiot.

What it's used for, what grains and corn
are added to in the food supply.

Do you even know how to make alcohol.

Alcohol is booze, not biofuel idiot.

It's ETHANOL (a specific type of alcohol), that's useful as biofuel.

The only two crops used to make it are corn and sugar.

And those crops use land and other resources that could have been

Fuck, how did you ever graduate from high school? I'm assuming of
course, that you did.

I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge.

LOL! LIke you're one to brag.

But not as good a thing as people actually eating.

"Michael Price" <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c69bd14c-e111-44df-8793-7eb0b45b2f50@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 4, 3:40 pm, sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 5:51 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-





Dog.com> wrote:
sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food
to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
Because you don't do much thinking.
Do you know what corn syrup is?
Yes. I believe it's made from corn, idiot.

What it's used for, what grains and corn
are added to in the food supply.
Do you even know how to make alcohol.
Alcohol is booze, not biofuel idiot.

Alcohol can refer to any carbon molecule with a -o-o-h group. One
of these
is what makes booze, booze.

It's ETHANOL (a specific type of alcohol), that's useful as biofuel.

Yeah and that's booze idiot.

The only two crops used to make it are corn and sugar.

And those crops use land and other resources that could have been
put to using
food.

Fuck, how did you ever graduate from high school? I'm assuming of
course, that you did.

I'm assuming you did too and that this fact is an idictment of the
public school
system.
I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge.
LOL! LIke you're one to brag.

He implying he knows more than you. This is hardly bragging.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Ethanol is not the same.

GOP Facts wrote:
"Michael Price" <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c69bd14c-e111-44df-8793-7eb0b45b2f50@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 4, 3:40 pm, sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 5:51 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-





Dog.com> wrote:
sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing
food to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
Because you don't do much thinking.
Do you know what corn syrup is?
Yes. I believe it's made from corn, idiot.

What it's used for, what grains and corn
are added to in the food supply.
Do you even know how to make alcohol.
Alcohol is booze, not biofuel idiot.

Alcohol can refer to any carbon molecule with a -o-o-h group. One
of these
is what makes booze, booze.

It's ETHANOL (a specific type of alcohol), that's useful as biofuel.

Yeah and that's booze idiot.

The only two crops used to make it are corn and sugar.

and yeast use the sugar with oxygen to create alcohol.


Ethanol, also called *ethyl alcohol* , grain alcohol, or drinking alcohol,
is a flammable, colorless, chemical compound. It is best known as the
type of alcohol found in alcoholic beverages and in thermometers. In
common usage, it is often referred to simply as alcohol.

After the use of fire, fermentation of *sugar into ethanol* was perhaps
the earliest organic reaction known to humanity[citation needed], and
the intoxicating effects of ethanol consumption have been known since
ancient times. In modern times ethanol intended for industrial use has
also been produced from *byproducts of petroleum* refining.

Ethanol has a long history as a fuel, including as a fuel for internal
combustion engines.


Methanol, also known as *methyl alcohol* , carbinol, wood alcohol, wood
naphtha or wood spirits, is a chemical compound with chemical formula
CH3OH (often abbreviated MeOH). It is the simplest alcohol, and is a
light, volatile, colourless, flammable, *poisonous* liquid with a
distinctive odor that is somewhat milder and sweeter than ethanol (ethyl
alcohol). At room temperature it is a polar liquid and is used as an
*antifreeze* , solvent, *fuel* , and as a denaturant for ethyl
alcohol. It is also used for producing *biodiesel* via
transesterification reaction.

And those crops use land and other resources that could have been
put to using
food.

Fuck, how did you ever graduate from high school? I'm assuming of
course, that you did.

I'm assuming you did too and that this fact is an idictment of the
public school
system.
I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge.
LOL! LIke you're one to brag.

He implying he knows more than you. This is hardly bragging.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Ethanol is not the same.

On Apr 2, 9:22?pm, Whata Fool <wh...@fool.ami> wrote:
"calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com> ?wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. ?There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. ?In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? ?The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.

See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html

See all the biofuel facts at -http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

? ? ?The US does not import much feedstock for ethanol
production, so why should the US ethanol industry be
named a factor in world food supplies?

That's a really stupid question. For a start ethanol production
does consume a lot of the resources that would otherwise
be used for food production. For a second thing,... no that's
enough.
If you can't figure out the connections that's your problem.

? ? ?Higher prices should increase world farm activity,
which can only be a good thing,

But not as good a thing as people actually eating.

more farmers making more money, and not buying cheap
US food.

? ? ?Why do you distort reality?

He didn't, you just don't understand it.

The US cannot feed the world, countries will learn not to
depend on the UN scams like oil for food, the long term picture
is too important to overlook.

"Whata Fool" <whata@fool.ami> wrote
The US cannot feed the world, countries will learn not to
depend on the UN scams like oil for food, the long term picture
is too important to overlook.

For the last 8 years, the U.S. has not even been able to feed itself.