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On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Quote: Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
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calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India, Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:16 pm |
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On Apr 2, 2:38 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
Quote: lorad...@cs.com wrote:
On Apr 1, 8:18 am, "calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
BZZZZT!
And you are wrong once again !
Biofuel has nothing to do with increased food prices and food
availability.
(only a 1% increase in the US)
The vast 99% of food price increase is due to *increased gasoline
prices* and the decrease in value of the over-inflated US dollar. Go
check it out.
Are you Blaming the oil price for the Biofuel increase?
Or the oil for the food price increase?
Because, idiot, when you raise the price of gas, you raise the price
of anything that has to go from A to B. Unless you're planning on
beaming the crops from the fields to the processors to the
supermarket.
Quote: Because the oil price causes the Biofuel use to go up
Yeah, right. Biofuel use is what, at 1% of what oil use is at?
Quote: and that biofuel
increase causes food prices to rise.
You're a fucking idiot. The only crops used for biofuel are corn and
sugar. Raising the price of these two crops is not going to raise
food prices across the board.
Quote:
Or is it purely Oil price causing food prices to go up?
YES!
Quote: I keep hearing that we are making Alcohol with every spare bushel of
grain and that will raise food costs.
Then it seems to me that your problem is booze, not biofuel. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:38 pm |
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lorad474@cs.com wrote:
Quote: On Apr 1, 8:18 am, "calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
BZZZZT!
And you are wrong once again !
Biofuel has nothing to do with increased food prices and food
availability.
(only a 1% increase in the US)
The vast 99% of food price increase is due to *increased gasoline
prices* and the decrease in value of the over-inflated US dollar. Go
check it out.
Are you Blaming the oil price for the Biofuel increase?
Or the oil for the food price increase?
Because the oil price causes the Biofuel use to go up and that biofuel
increase causes food prices to rise.
Or is it purely Oil price causing food prices to go up?
I keep hearing that we are making Alcohol with every spare bushel of
grain and that will raise food costs. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:55 pm |
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Biofuel production harms the environment by needlessly eroding topsoil
and encouraging the destruction of forests, which are desperately
needed to soak up excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Carbon
dioxide (CO2) is the major greenhouse gas that causes global warming,
and the two great sponges of carbon dioxide are the oceans and the
forests. The oceans are losing their ability to absorb CO2 as they
are becoming increasingly acidic due to pollution, so if we also
destroy our forests global warming will accelerate that much faster.
Biofuel schemes speed up global warming because the entire biofuel
production process, from beginning to end, releases huge amounts of
greenhouse gases into the atmosphere while destroying native forests
which naturally clean and rejuvenate the air we breathe.
The highly respected journal SCIENCE recently published the Use of
U.S. Croplands for Biofuels Increases Greenhouse Gases Through
Emissions from Land Use Change, which states that the production of
biofuels from grains or switchgrass greatly increases the release of
greenhouse gases and is far worse for the environment than using
gasoline. The authors found that "Using a worldwide agricultural
model to estimate emissions from land use change, corn-based ethanol,
instead of producing a 20% savings, nearly doubles greenhouse
emissions over 30 years and increases greenhouse gases for 167 years.
Biofuels from switchgrass, if grown on U.S. corn lands, increase
emissions by 50%. This result raises concerns about large biofuel
mandates and highlights the value of using waste products."
Scientists point out that nitrogen fertilizers, which are made from
natural gas, coal, and mined minerals, react with soil to unleash
large amounts of nitrous oxide (N2O), a greenhouse gas estimated to be
296 times more effective at trapping the earth's heat than CO2.
Farming contributes more to global warming each year than all land,
sea, and air transportation combined, so growing vast amounts of crops
for biofuels will heat up the earth's atmosphere faster than if we
only used imported oil.
Biofuel advocates ignore the fact that when we pump up grain prices
due to our own biofuel production, we raise grain prices all over the
world which gives other countries a strong financial incentive to burn
down rainforests in order to plant more food and biofuel crops. The
last thing we should be doing is encouraging nonessential agricultural
activity, which vastly enlarges our heavy human footprint on earth,
and which speeds global warming and desertification of the planet.
Biofuels in the US are made from corn, soybeans, and rapeseed. We use
corn to feed chickens and cattle, so the price of poultry, eggs, beef,
and dairy products will continue to rise along with the escalating
cost of corn. We also feed cattle soybeans. Biofuels raise the price
of all foods because farming biofuels drives up the cost of fertilizer
and reduces the amount of cropland devoted to wheat and other crops.
The United States Department of Agriculture has stated that by May 31,
2008, US wheat supplies will be lower than at any time since 1948, in
part because 16% of US farmland formerly planted in wheat and soybeans
is now being planted in corn.
see http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:41 pm |
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In article
<adca1a9f-3da7-4263-a5ee-b77730ea0bf8@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
sbm2006@shaw.ca wrote:
Quote: On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India, Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
That's because you're stupid. |
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| Harold Burton |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:43 pm |
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In article
<ef5a17eb-8913-41aa-8370-9a2a3ad3e075@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
lorad474@cs.com wrote:
Quote: On Apr 1, 8:18 am, "calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
BZZZZT!
And you are wrong once again !
Quote: Biofuel has nothing to do with increased food prices and food
availability.
Ah, proof by assertion.
snicker. |
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| Poetic Justice |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:51 pm |
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sbm2006@shaw.ca wrote:
Quote: On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India, Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
Because you don't do much thinking.
Do you know what corn syrup is? What it's used for, what grains and corn
are added to in the food supply.
Do you even know how to make alcohol. I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:04 pm |
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In article <ft058c$ian$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
"Ouroboros_Rex" <its@casual.com> wrote:
Quote: "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-BE31B8.07253302042008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <5sq6v31p0batngp11no4229os9im98lf70@4ax.com>,
Whata Fool <whata@fool.ami> wrote:
"calderhome@yahoo.com" <calderhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
The US does not import much feedstock for ethanol
production, so why should the US ethanol industry be
named a factor in world food supplies?
Where did he say it was, idiot?
Higher prices should increase world farm activity,
which can only be a good thing, more farmers making
more money, and not buying cheap US food.
Why do you distort reality?
Why do you?
I Got nothing to refute it.
Ayup.
Snicker. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:08 pm |
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Harold Burton <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: In article <5sq6v31p0batngp11no4229os9im98lf70@4ax.com>,
Whata Fool <whata@fool.ami> wrote:
"calderhome@yahoo.com" <calderhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
The US does not import much feedstock for ethanol
production, so why should the US ethanol industry be
named a factor in world food supplies?
Where did he say it was, idiot?
Why don't you ask him why he posted that,
where else would a big ethanol industry be found,
other than Brazil that uses mostly sugar, is
anybody demonstrating because sugar prices are high?
Quote: Higher prices should increase world farm activity,
which can only be a good thing, more farmers making
more money, and not buying cheap US food.
Why do you distort reality?
Why do you?
Why are you objecting to what I said,
more farmers making a profit all around the world
is a good thing, and it is partly the result of
the US ethanol industry beginning to use the huge
surplus grain stocks from overloaded elevators.
His posting or link seemed rather hysterical
as if there is really a crisis, caused by the ethanol
industry, and the opposite may in fact be true, if
only all the farmers in the world begin to harvest
more and finally get paid what the crops are worth,
it was only a year or so ago that people were just
burning corn because it was cheaper per BTU than
wood pellets, or in some places, even cheaper than
coal. |
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In article <c0i8v3hkrqhpv9599rbe3aegr3e8bp3jbj@4ax.com>,
Whata Fool <whata@fool.ami> wrote:
Quote: Harold Burton <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote:
In article <5sq6v31p0batngp11no4229os9im98lf70@4ax.com>,
Whata Fool <whata@fool.ami> wrote:
"calderhome@yahoo.com" <calderhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
See shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
The US does not import much feedstock for ethanol
production, so why should the US ethanol industry be
named a factor in world food supplies?
Where did he say it was, idiot?
Why don't you ask him why he posted that...
Why?
Quote: where else would a big ethanol industry be found..
Tell us. |
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Harold Burton wrote:
Quote: In article
adca1a9f-3da7-4263-a5ee-b77730ea0bf8@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
sbm2006@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote
in messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over
biofuels has led to numerous street demonstrations by
environmental groups. Will a starving Pakistan and India,
armed with nuclear weapons, make the world a safer place?
The great call of ordinary people around the world is for
food supply security, not biofuels. See shocking biofuel food
crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing
food to be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
That's because you're stupid.
This is what right wingers refer to as 'debate'. They can't deny that the
Bush administration has intentionally put the dollar in the toilet, hiding
their import deficit and raising prices on everything everywhere for
Americans, so they flap their lips and wave their arms. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:57 am |
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Poetic Justice wrote:
Quote: sbm2006@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote
in messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over
biofuels has led to numerous street demonstrations by
environmental groups. Will a starving Pakistan and India,
armed with nuclear weapons, make the world a safer place? The
great call of ordinary people around the world is for
food supply security, not biofuels. See shocking biofuel food
crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html See all the
biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing
food to be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
Because you don't do much thinking.
Do you know what corn syrup is? What it's used for, what grains and
corn are added to in the food supply.
Do you even know how to make alcohol. I see by your post you're
limited in knowledge.
You see nothing of the sort, because nothing of the sort is in evidence.
You are simply lying, just like you were when you tried to blame biofuels
(already happening) on carbon taxation (still new). This is what right
wingers refer to as 'debate'. They can't deny that the Bush administration
has intentionally put the dollar in the toilet, hiding their import deficit
and raising prices on everything everywhere for Americans, so they flap
their lips and wave their arms. |
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On Apr 3, 6:21 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: In article <ft2r5d$im...@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
"Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Harold Burton wrote:
In article
adca1a9f-3da7-4263-a5ee-b77730ea0...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote
in messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil.
There have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over
biofuels has led to numerous street demonstrations by
environmental groups. Will a starving Pakistan and India,
armed with nuclear weapons, make the world a safer place?
The great call of ordinary people around the world is for
food supply security, not biofuels. See shocking biofuel food
crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing
food to be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
That's because you're stupid.
This is what right wingers refer to as 'debate'. They can't deny that the
Bush administration has intentionally put the dollar in the toilet
Sure we can, I deny it. So prove it.
Easy. I'll just go down south and buy something with my Canadian
dollar, which is now at par for the first time in three and a half
decades.
Game, set, and match. Stupid.
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And you're still stupid.
Snicker.
How anyone can laugh when they're getting their ass kicked is beyond
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On Apr 2, 5:51 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
Quote: sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:52 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
"chemist" <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:bdf743ae-de6d-455d-927c-47156d85e4ec@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 6:13 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in
messagenews:hmtIj.23837$Er2.3671@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
calderh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is
causing political instability around the globe, because food
products are sold in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There
have already been mass protests and/or food riots in
Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia, Mozambique,
Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India, Pakistan,
the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels has
led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons,
make the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people
around the world is for food supply security, not biofuels. See
shocking biofuel food crisis news from around the world -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
See all the biofuel facts at -
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
Christopher Calder
Thank you Al Gore.
Cite Al's participation, please.
"Dramatic food price inflation"
(words above)
Al is promoting carbon tax/carbon offsets and that is causing food to
be turned into fuel,
ROFLMAO How, exactly? Magic? Loaded pistol?
Your sandwich is made of fail.
You see, the idiot is unaware that biofuel is only produced from two
crops; corn (a poor biofuel) and sugar (vastly better).
How increased demand of these two crops could inflate food prices
across the board is beyond me.
Because you don't do much thinking.
Do you know what corn syrup is?
Yes. I believe it's made from corn, idiot.
Quote: What it's used for, what grains and corn
are added to in the food supply.
Do you even know how to make alcohol.
Alcohol is booze, not biofuel idiot. It's ETHANOL (a specific type of
alcohol), that's useful as biofuel. The only two crops used to make
it are corn and sugar.
Fuck, how did you ever graduate from high school? I'm assuming of
course, that you did.
Quote: I see by your post you're limited
in knowledge.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:41 pm |
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On Apr 2, 5:16 pm, sbm2...@shaw.ca wrote:
Quote: On Apr 2, 2:38 pm, Poetic Justice <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-
Dog.com> wrote:
lorad...@cs.com wrote:
On Apr 1, 8:18 am, "calderh...@yahoo.com" <calderh...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dramatic food price inflation created by biofuel production is causing
political instability around the globe, because food products are sold
in a worldwide marketplace just like oil. There have already been
mass protests and/or food riots in Mexico, Haiti, Bolivia, Morocco,
Egypt, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mauritania, Namibia,
Mozambique, Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Indonesia, India,
Pakistan, the Philippines, and Italy. In the UK, anger over biofuels
has led to numerous street demonstrations by environmental groups.
Will a starving Pakistan and India, armed with nuclear weapons, make
the world a safer place? The great call of ordinary people around the
world is for food supply security, not biofuels.
BZZZZT!
And you are wrong once again !
Biofuel has nothing to do with increased food prices and food
availability.
(only a 1% increase in the US)
The vast 99% of food price increase is due to *increased gasoline
prices* and the decrease in value of the over-inflated US dollar. Go
check it out.
Are you Blaming the oil price for the Biofuel increase?
Or the oil for the food price increase?
Because, idiot, when you raise the price of gas, you raise the price
of anything that has to go from A to B. Unless you're planning on
beaming the crops from the fields to the processors to the
supermarket.
I should have also pointed out, you see those huge combines, tractors,
and trucks out working in the fields? They don't run on solar energy,
dumbass.
Quote: Because the oil price causes the Biofuel use to go up
Yeah, right. Biofuel use is what, at 1% of what oil use is at?
and that biofuel
increase causes food prices to rise.
You're a fucking idiot. The only crops used for biofuel are corn and
sugar. Raising the price of these two crops is not going to raise
food prices across the board.
Or is it purely Oil price causing food prices to go up?
YES!
I keep hearing that we are making Alcohol with every spare bushel of
grain and that will raise food costs.
Then it seems to me that your problem is booze, not biofuel. |
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