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| don findlay |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:27 pm |
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Stuart wrote:
Quote: On Apr 23, 11:56 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
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Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
If anybody should have discovered SR before Albert E, it would've been
Lorentz.
But only Einstein challenged the invariance of time.
Poincare did the hard work?
Of course he did! Poincarr� got it before Einstein who largely
"inspired" his work from Poincarr�'s correspondence without a single
citation (no references in his 1905 paper! unbelievable!).
Cite any evidence Einstein ever corresponded with Poincarre'. Or vice
versa.
That's why Einstein did not get the nobel for SR. Everybody knew it was
a plagiat.
Right.
He was a great mathematician, and ahead of his time in many ways
but Einstein beat him too it.
Beat him to what? You mean Einstein rushed it into print - whilst
Poincarre' was just content with having done it?
You really are an animal for the peer approval.
Or ar you one of those who insist that's how 'science' works - a
creature of multi-arms and legs turned in on itself - a monster of
self-reference created by the mind of man, ..and nothing to do with
reality?
Quote: The French can be such sore losers.
Is that why you are sporting 'The Tri-couleur', Stuart,
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/rubber/html
..You're into masochism - as well as rubber?
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| don findlay |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:50 pm |
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Landy wrote:
Quote: "don findlay" <don@tower.net.au> wrote in message
BTW, where does the matter come from?
(Your grammar's fucken awful.)
That sounds great coming from the person that
(The person WHO, Bill, ..the person WOO - hoo... )
That depends whether one is using active voice or not - I wasn't.
Where did I say "THE any old matter"?
('Swot I thought) ... (fucken deadhead that talks in its sleep !)
("&&When somebody else pulls the strings, the strings, ..the
strings, ..when somebody else pulls the strings&&" - <close music>) |
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| don findlay |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:22 pm |
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Florian wrote:
Quote: Landy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
Until you come up with evidence that Earth is expanding and explain the
mechanism, your premise is nothing but belief.
Whatever, there is no need for a mechanism to support facts.
Look carefully at this figure:
http://nachon.free.fr/isochrons/antarctic2.png
Is it so difficult to figure out that it is not possible to make a
reconstruction around antarctica based on the aged of seafloor, if one
does not reduce the size of the globe?
You have to go easy on them Florian. Just because they don't have an
answer how, doesn't mean to say it can't happen - (in their book).
They're headless chooks, .. and can't tell which circle they're
running in.
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Florian
"Toute v�rit� passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculis�e;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'�tre accept�e comme
une totale �vidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Skywise |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 pm |
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| Skywise |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:48 pm |
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| Stuart |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:16 pm |
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On Apr 24, 5:27 pm, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
Quote: Stuart wrote:
On Apr 23, 11:56 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
If anybody should have discovered SR before Albert E, it would've been
Lorentz.
But only Einstein challenged the invariance of time.
Poincare did the hard work?
Of course he did! Poincarr� got it before Einstein who largely
"inspired" his work from Poincarr�'s correspondence without a single
citation (no references in his 1905 paper! unbelievable!).
Cite any evidence Einstein ever corresponded with Poincarre'. Or vice
versa.
That's why Einstein did not get the nobel for SR. Everybody knew it was
a plagiat.
Right.
He was a great mathematician, and ahead of his time in many ways
but Einstein beat him too it.
Beat him to what? You mean Einstein rushed it into print - whilst
Poincarre' was just content with having done it?
Really?
Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.
There is a sucker born every minute.
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| Florian |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:03 am |
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Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Quote: you again fail to provide a mechanism for EE.
Bozo, there is no demonstration of a working mechanism for PT. The
mechanism for PT remained at hypothesis stage for the last 40 years.
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Florian |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:48 am |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
Quote: Really?
Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.
Duhh! Are you ignorant!
<http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf05/ps/c5-1.pdf>
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Stuart |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:11 am |
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| J. Taylor |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:24 am |
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:48:55 GMT, Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com>
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Quote: Rather than point by point reply I will just point out that...
you again fail to provide a mechanism for EE.
you again fail to provide a source for the matter.
you again fail to provide reference to the claimed public record.
you again fail to NOT make a sexually oriented ad hominem.
you again fail to back up your claims.
you again simply fail.
Brian
And must say, you do your best to show this is a solo act for you.
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| Stuart |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:34 pm |
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On Apr 25, 11:17 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Quote: Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
Yeah. Another Kook.
The kook said.
You're ludicrous. Google "poincarré relativity". You'll find hundreds of
documents discussing the anteriority of Poincarré.
Among the first hits:
http://www.annales.org/archives/x/Relativity.doc
Well, you know what? Just forget it. You already proved too many times
that you prefer to live in your fantasy land.
Is that what you call the land of Professional historians of Science?
Stuart |
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| don findlay |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:14 pm |
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Skywise wrote:
Quote: All else being equal, if the Earth expanded in
size and increased mass, its gravitational attraction changes.
What's the result if this? The Moon spirals into the Earth.
Has this happened? Nope. In fact, it has been observed that the
Moon is spiraling AWAY from the Earth at a rate of 38mm per
year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_laser_ranging_experiment
So see? There is evidence directly against expansion theory,
Is that right? Assumption ||"All else being equal"|| >>>> ||"is
evidence directly against"||
Who do you think you are skywise? Einstein? ...Or Bozo the Clown? |
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| Nicolas Krebs |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:46 pm |
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| Florian |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:17 pm |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
Quote: Yeah. Another Kook.
The kook said.
You're ludicrous. Google "poincarré relativity". You'll find hundreds of
documents discussing the anteriority of Poincarré.
Among the first hits:
<http://www.annales.org/archives/x/Relativity.doc>
Well, you know what? Just forget it. You already proved too many times
that you prefer to live in your fantasy land.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Florian |
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:17 pm |
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Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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