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don findlay
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:27 pm
Guest
Stuart wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 23, 11:56 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
If anybody should have discovered SR before Albert E, it would've been
Lorentz.

But only Einstein challenged the invariance of time.

Poincare did the hard work?

Of course he did! Poincarr� got it before Einstein who largely
"inspired" his work from Poincarr�'s correspondence without a single
citation (no references in his 1905 paper! unbelievable!).

Cite any evidence Einstein ever corresponded with Poincarre'. Or vice
versa.

That's why Einstein did not get the nobel for SR. Everybody knew it was
a plagiat.

Right.

He was a great mathematician, and ahead of his time in many ways
but Einstein beat him too it.

Beat him to what? You mean Einstein rushed it into print - whilst
Poincarre' was just content with having done it?

You really are an animal for the peer approval.

Or ar you one of those who insist that's how 'science' works - a
creature of multi-arms and legs turned in on itself - a monster of
self-reference created by the mind of man, ..and nothing to do with
reality?


Quote:
The French can be such sore losers.

Is that why you are sporting 'The Tri-couleur', Stuart,
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/rubber/html
..You're into masochism - as well as rubber?
Quote:

Stuart
don findlay
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:50 pm
Guest
Landy wrote:

Quote:
"don findlay" <don@tower.net.au> wrote in message

BTW, where does the matter come from?

(Your grammar's fucken awful.)

That sounds great coming from the person that

(The person WHO, Bill, ..the person WOO - hoo... )

That depends whether one is using active voice or not - I wasn't.

Where did I say "THE any old matter"?

('Swot I thought) ... (fucken deadhead that talks in its sleep !)
("&&When somebody else pulls the strings, the strings, ..the
strings, ..when somebody else pulls the strings&&" - <close music>)
don findlay
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:22 pm
Guest
Florian wrote:

Quote:
Landy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:

Until you come up with evidence that Earth is expanding and explain the
mechanism, your premise is nothing but belief.

Whatever, there is no need for a mechanism to support facts.

Look carefully at this figure:
http://nachon.free.fr/isochrons/antarctic2.png

Is it so difficult to figure out that it is not possible to make a
reconstruction around antarctica based on the aged of seafloor, if one
does not reduce the size of the globe?

You have to go easy on them Florian. Just because they don't have an
answer how, doesn't mean to say it can't happen - (in their book).
They're headless chooks, .. and can't tell which circle they're
running in.

Quote:


--
Florian
"Toute v�rit� passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculis�e;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'�tre accept�e comme
une totale �vidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Skywise
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 pm
Guest
J. Taylor <nchiwana@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in
news:r62014taq3b393pcgpjib5vammubmi9jud@4ax.com:

Quote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:41:39 GMT, Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com
wrote:

<Snipola>
Quote:
Do you even have a guess as to the mechanism?

Yes!

Care to share?

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Skywise
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:48 pm
Guest
Rather than point by point reply I will just point out that...

you again fail to provide a mechanism for EE.

you again fail to provide a source for the matter.

you again fail to provide reference to the claimed public record.

you again fail to NOT make a sexually oriented ad hominem.

you again fail to back up your claims.

you again simply fail.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Stuart
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:16 pm
Guest
On Apr 24, 5:27 pm, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
Quote:
Stuart wrote:
On Apr 23, 11:56 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
If anybody should have discovered SR before Albert E, it would've been
Lorentz.

But only Einstein challenged the invariance of time.

Poincare did the hard work?

Of course he did! Poincarr� got it before Einstein who largely
"inspired" his work from Poincarr�'s correspondence without a single
citation (no references in his 1905 paper! unbelievable!).

Cite any evidence Einstein ever corresponded with Poincarre'. Or vice
versa.

That's why Einstein did not get the nobel for SR. Everybody knew it was
a plagiat.

Right.

He was a great mathematician, and ahead of his time in many ways
but Einstein beat him too it.

Beat him to what? You mean Einstein rushed it into print - whilst
Poincarre' was just content with having done it?

Really?

Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.

There is a sucker born every minute.

Stuart
Florian
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:03 am
Guest
Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

Quote:
you again fail to provide a mechanism for EE.

Bozo, there is no demonstration of a working mechanism for PT. The
mechanism for PT remained at hypothesis stage for the last 40 years.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Florian
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:48 am
Guest
Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:


Quote:
Really?

Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.

Duhh! Are you ignorant!

<http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf05/ps/c5-1.pdf>

--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Stuart
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:11 am
Guest
On Apr 25, 2:48 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Quote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
Really?

Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.

Duhh! Are you ignorant!

http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf05/ps/c5-1.pdf


Yeah. Another Kook.

Did you know the French also invented the wheel and slice bread?

Stuart
J. Taylor
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:24 am
Guest
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:48:55 GMT, Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Rather than point by point reply I will just point out that...

you again fail to provide a mechanism for EE.

you again fail to provide a source for the matter.

you again fail to provide reference to the claimed public record.

you again fail to NOT make a sexually oriented ad hominem.

you again fail to back up your claims.

you again simply fail.

Brian

And must say, you do your best to show this is a solo act for you.

JT
Stuart
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:34 pm
Guest
On Apr 25, 11:17 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Quote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
Yeah. Another Kook.

The kook said.

You're ludicrous. Google "poincarré relativity". You'll find hundreds of
documents discussing the anteriority of Poincarré.

Among the first hits:
http://www.annales.org/archives/x/Relativity.doc

Well, you know what? Just forget it. You already proved too many times
that you prefer to live in your fantasy land.


Is that what you call the land of Professional historians of Science?

Stuart
don findlay
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:14 pm
Guest
Skywise wrote:

Quote:
All else being equal, if the Earth expanded in
size and increased mass, its gravitational attraction changes.
What's the result if this? The Moon spirals into the Earth.
Has this happened? Nope. In fact, it has been observed that the
Moon is spiraling AWAY from the Earth at a rate of 38mm per
year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_laser_ranging_experiment

So see? There is evidence directly against expansion theory,

Is that right? Assumption ||"All else being equal"|| >>>> ||"is
evidence directly against"||

Who do you think you are skywise? Einstein? ...Or Bozo the Clown?
Nicolas Krebs
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:46 pm
Guest
J. Taylor écrivit dans l'article
news:mrjv049slapr0s7n88tbfsgnpnjqqd314a@4ax.com

Quote:
Have rock solid evidence for expansion

Evidence?

If english language is not your mother tongue, you can look at
- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/evidence#English
"Facts or observations presented in support of an assertion."
- http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence
"something that furnishes proof"
- http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/evidence.html
"sign or proof: something that gives a sign or proof of the existence or
truth of something, or that helps somebody to come to a particular
conclusion"
Florian
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:17 pm
Guest
Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:


Quote:
Yeah. Another Kook.

The kook said.

You're ludicrous. Google "poincarré relativity". You'll find hundreds of
documents discussing the anteriority of Poincarré.

Among the first hits:
<http://www.annales.org/archives/x/Relativity.doc>

Well, you know what? Just forget it. You already proved too many times
that you prefer to live in your fantasy land.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Florian
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:17 pm
Guest
Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 25, 2:48 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
Really?

Show me the paper where Poincare' made mechanics Lorentz invariant
and came up with E=Mc^2.

Duhh! Are you ignorant!

http://web.ihep.su/library/pubs/tconf05/ps/c5-1.pdf


Yeah. Another Kook.

Did you know the French also invented the wheel and slice bread?

Stuart


--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
 
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