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| Florian |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Quote: Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I
didn't.
"Umm, ridges extruding ice?"
Sounds like you deny the existence of ridges extruding ice.
So, Georgie, do you deny them yes or not?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:51 pm |
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"George" <George@george.net> wrote in message
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Umm, ridges extruding ice? Take a look at this image and point out the
extruded ridges:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080331.html
Georgie, do you deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus?
Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I
didn't. But you didn't respond to my request. You simply obfuscated once
again. Well?
Quite a picture! I quess that region explains the spray they
detected above the southern hemisphere.
http://solarviews.com/cap/pia/PIA07798.htm
So how does ice tectonics differ from our version?
What puzzles me is that so many of these ice moons
are heavily cratered and old. But we also see rather
young and active areas. So I guess ice tectonics would
be a much slower process than on earth?
Whatdya think?
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| George |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:07 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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Did I say that I deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus? No, of course I
didn't. But you didn't respond to my request. You simply obfuscated once
again. Well?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:29 pm |
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On 2 avr, 01:51, "jonathan" <maats...@write.instead.net> wrote:
*> "George" <Geo...@george.net> wrote in message
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*> So how does ice tectonics differ from our version?
*> What puzzles me is that so many of these ice moons
*> are heavily cratered and old. But we also see rather
*> young and active areas. So I guess ice tectonics would
*> be a much slower process than on earth?
*> Whatdya think?
I think you are all fucked up with that type of reasoning :
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Enceladus is much too small to be heated solely by the decay of
radioactive material in its interior at present. But briefly after its
formation 4.5 billion years ago short-lived radioisotopes may have
provided enough heat to melt and differentiate the interior. That
combined with modest present day heating from long-lived isotopes and
tidal heating may account for the present day activity on Enceladus.
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... and please stop talking about that tectonics folly for Saturn &
vicinity, that dizeaze must be confined to that Earth mental
asylum...
Thanks jp |
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| Skywise |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:05 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:02 am |
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and of course the usual comments from Rabbid Groenstein & heinous
Tyrwhitt 's son, Christopher, alias Sunny ...
.... while the Mining & Political Manure receive only praise for their
Criminal Swindlling & Forfeiture / Dereliction of duty / Money
Extortion etc
This goes to prove that in the Land of Bastards, australia, only the
worse Convict Rabble deserves "respect" & "honour" !
It demonstrates as well that in this Antipodean Hell On Earth of
australia, all values are inverted such as Lie becomes Truth & most
abject yellow Cowardice is most admirable ...
A country to be avoided at all cost under pain of a slow death life
sentence : death of the mind, of the spirit and then of the body !
Death in that Hell on Earth seen as delivrance & release from
suffering from over saturated evil miasmas emanating from such heaps
of manure, aka austrlaians, exhaling their hate of beauty & their
contempt for intelligence .... especially for sensible & inspired
Geological acumen & understanding !
The DDD being in full force now ( Divine Drudging Drought & Divine
Drudging Drench ) we can only congratulate ourselves on the stern
application of the Almighty 's Laws of Eternal Justice & Divine
Retribution upon that Antipodean Manure ! .. and I have issued command
that such should be scaled up !!!
WELLDONE
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud |
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| Sunny |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:17 am |
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< Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
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Quote: . and please stop talking about that tectonics folly for Saturn &
vicinity, that dizeaze must be confined to that Earth mental
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Something to keep you company in your rubber room no doubt? |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:41 am |
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Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Quote: Would you make up your mind what your question actually is?
Are you Georgie? I don't think so. Georgie questions the existence of
ridges extruding ice on enceladus.
So please, let him answer the question, OK?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| George |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:52 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Skywise <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Would you make up your mind what your question actually is?
Are you Georgie? I don't think so. Georgie questions the existence of
ridges extruding ice on enceladus.
So please, let him answer the question, OK?
I don't deny the existence of ridges. I see no evidence that the ridges are
extruding ice. The ridges could just as easily have been formed due to
tidal forces in the subsurface, as shown by the example of ice ridges on the
Antarctic ice sheet (a link to which you conveneniently deleded in your
earlier response, and on which never made any comment). For ice to extrude
implies that there is a fracture system from which the ice is extruding.
Now, there are lots of fractures on the ice-covered surface of enceladus, so
if you want to change your theory to include fracture systems as a primary
means for ice "extrusion", be my guest. either way, it doesn't lead to your
claim that the moon is expanding. Evidence for that would necessarily
include measurements that the diameter of the moon is increasing, and that
its mass is increasing. Where are those measurements, Floppy?
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| George |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:54 pm |
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"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
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. and please stop talking about that tectonics folly for Saturn &
vicinity, that dizeaze must be confined to that Earth mental
asylum...
Something to keep you company in your rubber room no doubt?
Gee, is he still knitting invisible sweaters? I thought they took his
knitting needles away from him. Poor sod.
George |
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| Skywise |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:56 am |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:58 am |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:00 am |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Quote: I don't deny the existence of ridges. I see no evidence that the ridges are
extruding ice.
Georgie, there is crystalline ice along the ridges:
<http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03551>
Crystalline ice is transformed into amorphous ice by UV and cosmic
radiation in less than 1000 years. It means that it recently forms
either by freezing of liquid water or vapor and that water came from the
ridges.
It is exactly the same phenomenon as the oceanic ridges, except that the
main component of the eruption is water.
So Georgie, do you question the existence of ridges extruding water on
enceladus?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:23 pm |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Quote: Floppy, since that region on Enceladus is exactly the same region where
there is highly active geysers on the moon, did it not occur to you that the
origin of the very young crystalline surface coating of ice is the geyser
activity? The geyser activity is not coming from the ridges. It is coming
from the fractures (what they refer to as the tiget stripes) between the
ridges. Duh!
Is it a joke or what?
The "tiger stripes "ARE the ridges we're talking about! Those are the
ridges you deny they extrude ice! God are you dumb!
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| George |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:04 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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Quote: George <George@george.net> wrote:
I don't deny the existence of ridges. I see no evidence that the ridges
are
extruding ice.
Georgie, there is crystalline ice along the ridges:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03551
Crystalline ice is transformed into amorphous ice by UV and cosmic
radiation in less than 1000 years. It means that it recently forms
either by freezing of liquid water or vapor and that water came from the
ridges.
It is exactly the same phenomenon as the oceanic ridges, except that the
main component of the eruption is water.
So Georgie, do you question the existence of ridges extruding water on
enceladus?
Floppy, since that region on Enceladus is exactly the same region where
there is highly active geysers on the moon, did it not occur to you that the
origin of the very young crystalline surface coating of ice is the geyser
activity? The geyser activity is not coming from the ridges. It is coming
from the fractures (what they refer to as the tiget stripes) between the
ridges. Duh!
George |
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