I have been all over the U.S. and hit a
lot of them but never had a problem with cash and not even mentioning
that I had an active account. *I will now given the price break thanks
to McMaster's disaster*

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A
few
stores do "under the table" retail transactions, when they know the
tradesmen they're dealing with.

LLoyd

It most certainly IS true in this part of the country.

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a
business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A
few
stores do "under the table" retail transactions, when they know the
tradesmen they're dealing with.

LLoyd

Whew at Grainger's "Wholesale" prices, who are their retailers? Must be
Snap On and Gucci.

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A

That is simply not true. I send people there all the time and they never
have problems. I may be elsewhere but all the stores I have been in and it's
a lot traveling on the racing circuit reinforces my retort.

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.
Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A

[ ... ]

That is simply not true. I send people there all the time and they never
have problems. I may be elsewhere but all the stores I have been in and it's
a lot traveling on the racing circuit reinforces my retort.

They have refused to do business with me as an individual. They
said that if I could show a business card or a business license, they
could then deal with me. Since MSC happily ships to me (typical next
day arrival), and ships a massive catalog every year (plus the monthly
flyers) I figure that I can do without the hassle of a company which
makes such demands to get my business. FWIW, this is in Northern VA.

Enjoy,
DoN.

What's wrong with going to the local print shop and doing up some
business cards? "Don Nichols Construction Services" out to do the trick.
$20 or so, they come in handy for buying stuff when it's over priced.
Just give them your card with a 'call me if it doesn't sell'.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A
few
stores do "under the table" retail transactions, when they know the
tradesmen they're dealing with.

LLoyd

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A
few
stores do "under the table" retail transactions, when they know the
tradesmen they're dealing with.

LLoyd

Whew at Grainger's "Wholesale" prices, who are their retailers? Must be
Snap On and Gucci.

Indeed.

What's wrong with going to the local print shop and doing up some
business cards? "Don Nichols Construction Services" out to do the trick.
$20 or so, they come in handy for buying stuff when it's over priced.
Just give them your card with a 'call me if it doesn't sell'.

On 2008-03-29, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:
What's wrong with going to the local print shop and doing up some
business cards? "Don Nichols Construction Services" out to do the trick.
$20 or so, they come in handy for buying stuff when it's over priced.
Just give them your card with a 'call me if it doesn't sell'.

Mostly because I don't like being a fake.

I guess that I could do some up as D and D Data, since we have
that as a company name -- from when we used to do address lists for
performers.

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Thanks Rob. One day I will go. I have a McMaster account, but I have
Grainger just 2 miles from home. If they can serve little guys like
me, (with a S corp) I will be interested,.

Most Grainger stores won't deal with you unless you can present a business
license or permit on your first visit. They are strictly wholesale. A
few
stores do "under the table" retail transactions, when they know the
tradesmen they're dealing with.

LLoyd

I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Michigan if you
are a Michigan Farm Bureau member you can buy from Grainger
via a special account. I did this a couple times while I
still had FMB membership and the last time I checked this
was still valid.

Well,

Here is where I stand. I showed the letter to both Fastenal and
Grainger in separate meetings yesterday and lobbied that given a better
price margin I would not do business with McMaster Carr over this insult.
As a result. BOTH competitors have lowered my total costing and lowered my
margins to gain the influx and were very, very eager to pick up the
business that has been lost to McMaster Carr. My profit margins have now
greatly improved and I have one less headache in my life. I flat out
refuse to run a business and be told something as ridiculous as "you can't
have a catalog" The winning point is now that both Grainger and Fastenal
have given me better pricing I would have no use for McMaster anyhow. They
offered no break at all historically. So I guess this stupid bitch that
sent the letter actually helped my business by hurting theirs. Ironic is
it not?
There has never been any thing that they offered that I could not find
elsewhere for the scope of my industry needs anyway. That letter to the
CEO is in draft and I assure you it is scathing to say the least. I guess
one person can make a difference. At least I have her name so I never
hire her for the office once McMaster fires her for her stupidity. In the
last 5 years (the purge from SAP) indicated I spent about 60k with them as
a correction to my original figure. That letter is GOLD when presented
to a competitor (who were both stupefied and left shaking their heads when
presented with it). As for the Walgreen's reference it does not apply. I
have other shops and vendors in the area anyhow. I lost nothing by
ditching them as a vendor.

Respects,

Rob Fraser

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.