Ten years ago today (March 21, 1998) Stanley meyer died of a brain
aneurism. That was two years after he was found guilty of gross and
egregious fraud, forced to repay a couple of his "investors" some
$25,000, and forced to shut down his scam by court order.

While a few of his followers still hold out that he was legitimate, in
the intervening 10 years not a single one of them has been successful
in building a water fuel cell or fueling a car with nothing but water.

Ten years ago today (March 21, 1998) Stanley meyer died of a brain
aneurism.

That was two years after he was found guilty of gross and
egregious fraud, forced to repay a couple of his "investors" some
$25,000, and forced to shut down his scam by court order.

He wasn't "ordered" to shut down anything.

While a few of his followers still hold out that he was legitimate, in
the intervening 10 years not a single one of them has been successful
in building a water fuel cell or fueling a car with nothing but water.

On Mar 21, 2:01 pm, u...@email.address.here (User) wrote:

Ten years ago today (March 21, 1998) Stanley meyer died of a brain
aneurism.

According to the Coroner.
Then he was creamated.
No one will ever know exactly what he died from.
It happened the very day he had arranged a major funding deal.
He was a the dinner table with his investors who had already bought
the land on which he was to build his operating complex to manufacture
his Super Heated Steam Generator for industry. He stood up exclaiming
he'd been poisoned (which he always feared) went outside and collapsed
into a coma. He died a few hours later.

That was two years after he was found guilty of gross and
egregious fraud, forced to repay a couple of his "investors" some
$25,000, and forced to shut down his scam by court order.

He wasn't "ordered" to shut down anything.
He continued to fund his operations as he did all along by taking
deposits for distribution and licensing rights.
You are the fraud here.

While a few of his followers still hold out that he was legitimate, in
the intervening 10 years not a single one of them has been successful
in building a water fuel cell or fueling a car with nothing but water.

For those who want to read Meyer's statement.http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/browse_frm/thread/...

On Mar 22, 3:07 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

"He continued to fund his operations as he did all along by taking
deposits for distribution and licensing rights. "

Right, licensing rights for a product that didn't and couldn't exist.
While this falls short of what most people would term a "Ponzi" scam,
it is still fraud.Strictly speaking, to my knoledge Stan never
actually was involved in a "Ponzi" scam but not because of his ethics,
but simply because he was too damned stupid to do so.

Harry C.

p.s., JW, I assume that you know what the "Ponzi" scam is. If you
don't, then Google it.

On Mar 22, 3:07 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:



On Mar 21, 2:01 pm, u...@email.address.here (User) wrote:

Ten years ago today (March 21, 1998) Stanley meyer died of a brain
aneurism.

According to the Coroner.
Then he was creamated.
No one will ever know exactly what he died from.
It happened the very day he had arranged a major funding deal.
He was a the dinner table with his investors who had already bought
the land on which he was to build his operating complex to manufacture
his Super Heated Steam Generator for industry. He stood up exclaiming
he'd been poisoned (which he always feared) went outside and collapsed
into a coma. He died a few hours later.

That was two years after he was found guilty of gross and
egregious fraud, forced to repay a couple of his "investors" some
$25,000, and forced to shut down his scam by court order.

He wasn't "ordered" to shut down anything.
He continued to fund his operations as he did all along by taking
deposits for distribution and licensing rights.
You are the fraud here.

While a few of his followers still hold out that he was legitimate, in
the intervening 10 years not a single one of them has been successful
in building a water fuel cell or fueling a car with nothing but water.

For those who want to read Meyer's statement.http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/browse_frm/thread/...

Since you seem to know that his investors had "already bought
"the land on which he was to build his operating complex to
manufacture
his Super Heated Steam Generator for industry", the local recorder of
deeds must have records of this, where this land is located, and the
hisory of ownership after Stan passed away from natural causes likely
resulting from a fear that his fraud was soon to be revealed, if not
already done.

I would suggest that this land transaction never existed,

and if you
know that it did, you can easily prove that by identifying the plot of
land and who held title to it, if not Stan himself. That way we can
all check with the recorder of deeds and quickly determine if this is
fact or fantasy. Putting it bluntly, how is the land identified, and
who holds the title and pays the taxes on it?

I'm working on that.

By the way, I believe that the last time you posted about this, the
facility was to be a multi-million dollar research facility for his
crackpot electrolysis nonsense.

Right?

Meyer had designed a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting

You migh also explain what in the heck Stan had to do with "steam
generators". since everything you've posted over the years had to do
with Stan's miraculous hydrogen generation system and his 'water
powered car' which never really existed.

Harry C.

knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer had designed

Designed ???? Was he an architect too ?

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

Cite !

Graham

You migh also explain what in the heck Stan had to do with "steam
generators". since everything you've posted over the years had to do
with Stan's miraculous hydrogen generation system and his 'water
powered car' which never really existed.

knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer had designed

Designed ???? Was he an architect too ?

He had a "general plan" which included change of use from Agriculture
to Industrial for the parcel(s). He also ad to get approval for the
air strip for executive and military jets to fly in.

I would call that 'design' myself. I'm a designer and know the meaning of the
word. 'General plans' do not count as a design.

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

Cite !

Cite what?
A Grove City city coucil meeting?
You are nuts.

So you admit you could be making this up. Or Meyer was making it up.

No.

If it's not in the archives it's not allowable as a fact. It's pure hearsay.

Graham

Meyer had designed

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

On Mar 22, 2:13 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:



knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer had designed

Designed ???? Was he an architect too ?

He had a "general plan" which included change of use from Agriculture
to Industrial for the parcel(s). He also ad to get approval for the
air strip for executive and military jets to fly in.

I would call that 'design' myself. I'm a designer and know the meaning of the
word. 'General plans' do not count as a design.

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

Cite !

Cite what?
A Grove City city coucil meeting?
You are nuts.

So you admit you could be making this up. Or Meyer was making it up.

No.
You can call Grove City and ask them to di up the meeting minutes
yourself.

If it's not in the archives it's not allowable as a fact. It's pure hearsay.

Graham

What archives?
Grove City or the County?
Why should I bother?
You don't and won't believe anything I present.
I have better things to do than give you more things to dispute.
I spoke to the Broker who sold the land to the Belgians.
That's good enough for me.
You want more call the county Clerk and dso a Grantor Grantee seach
for the Belgians names.http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/07/08/hy...
"Coroner's report

The Grove City police investigation of Meyer's death included taped
interviews of more than a dozen witnesses.

Absent, however, were audiotapes of the two Belgians, Phillippe
Vandemoortele and Marc Vancraeyenest.

The men had agreed to purchase 56 acres along Seeds Road in Grove
City. The city had approved a research campus there two months before
Meyer's death.

Lt. Steve Robinette said it's possible the men's interviews were not
taped.

Calls and e-mails to Vandemoortele and Vancraeyenest for this story
were not returned."
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On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer had designed

Designed ???? Was he an architect too ?

He had a "general plan" which included change of use from Agriculture
to Industrial for the parcel(s). He also ad to get approval for the
air strip for executive and military jets to fly in.

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

Cite !

Cite what?
A Grove City city coucil meeting?
You are nuts.

On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Meyer had designed

Designed ???? Was he an architect too ?

He had a "general plan" which included change of use from Agriculture
to Industrial for the parcel(s). He also ad to get approval for the
air strip for executive and military jets to fly in.

a Reasearch/Developement/Manufactuting/Meeting
facility and the plans had been approved by the county just before the
land was purchased, a normal contingency.

Cite !

Cite what?
A Grove City city coucil meeting?
You are nuts.

"Dan,
We would be happy to see you and your results of your experimentations
on yahoo.watercar.grp. I am replicating stan meyers work at a rate of
60lpm to run a vw engine at 3600rpm constant driving a 20kw
genset.Artinvegas..."