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alanejackson
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:40 am
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Popular Science, p. 208 (April 1945)

"Ehrenhaft Discovery Confirmed by New Experiments"

"By observing whirligigs of electrically charges particles in a
magnetic field, Brother Gabriel Kane of Manhattan College and Charles
B. Reynolds of the Federal Communications Commission confirm the
phenomenal discovery of magnetic currents by Dr. Felix Ehrenhaft
(P.S.M., June 1944, p. 130). Going further, they make a drop of copper
sulfate solution spin between the pole pieces of a permanent magnet,
even rotating in interposed microscope cover glass with it. Present
laboratory tests may lead to momentous applications in power machinery
of the future."
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Magnetite, the Fountain of Energy!!!!

If the discovery is correct, a magnet is like a battery.

Thus; the magnetic bacteria/mitochondria most likely are storing
energy in the formation/making of magnetite.

The discovery seems to be saying that a magnet has a continual flow of
current around it, flowing from pole to pole. What effect would the
magnetite have, viewed as little motors, in our cells?

2 Kings 6:6 And the man of God said, Where fell it? And he shewed him
the place. And he cut down a stick, and cast it in thither; and the
iron did swim.

UPDATE !!!

If the discovery is correct, a magnet is like a energy source.

Thus; the magnetic bacteria/mitochondria most likely are gaining
energy by the formation/making of magnetite.

Way Big Difference!!!

The target changed paths, but I'm still gaining on it. And it looks
like a big one by its tracks. Physics, as we think we know it may have
to change. That's what had me on the wrong path, to begin with.

Here is a taste, to wet your appetite. To start your thinking along
the line of reasoning I'm following out now.

What if magnets were a receiver of energy? Like Tesla was trying to do
with electrical current.

Loadstone: What if magnets are actually picking up some background
energy of the cosmos, like background micro, or gravity waves? Due to
the way the matter is arranged, in the forming of a magnet, it taps
this source of energy? Matter that has arranged itself naturally with
this ability, we have come to call natural or permanent magnets.

Working..................

Alan
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http://www.freewebs.com/alanejackson/index.htm
Knud Soerensen
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:23 am
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Hi Alan

Thanks, for a interesting posting.


alanejackson wrote:
Quote:
Popular Science, p. 208 (April 1945)

"Ehrenhaft Discovery Confirmed by New Experiments"

"By observing whirligigs of electrically charges particles in a
magnetic field, Brother Gabriel Kane of Manhattan College and Charles
B. Reynolds of the Federal Communications Commission confirm the
phenomenal discovery of magnetic currents by Dr. Felix Ehrenhaft
(P.S.M., June 1944, p. 130). Going further, they make a drop of copper
sulfate solution spin between the pole pieces of a permanent magnet,
even rotating in interposed microscope cover glass with it. Present
laboratory tests may lead to momentous applications in power machinery
of the future."
------------

Take a look in http://www.scribd.com/doc/4445/quaternionic-electrodynamics
it have some references to newer research on Ehrenhaft Discovery.


Quote:
Magnetite, the Fountain of Energy!!!!

If the discovery is correct, a magnet is like a battery.

Thus; the magnetic bacteria/mitochondria most likely are storing
energy in the formation/making of magnetite.

The discovery seems to be saying that a magnet has a continual flow of
current around it, flowing from pole to pole. What effect would the
magnetite have, viewed as little motors, in our cells?

2 Kings 6:6 And the man of God said, Where fell it? And he shewed him
the place. And he cut down a stick, and cast it in thither; and the
iron did swim.

UPDATE !!!

If the discovery is correct, a magnet is like a energy source.

Thus; the magnetic bacteria/mitochondria most likely are gaining
energy by the formation/making of magnetite.

Way Big Difference!!!

The target changed paths, but I'm still gaining on it. And it looks
like a big one by its tracks. Physics, as we think we know it may have
to change. That's what had me on the wrong path, to begin with.

Here is a taste, to wet your appetite. To start your thinking along
the line of reasoning I'm following out now.

What if magnets were a receiver of energy? Like Tesla was trying to do
with electrical current.

Loadstone: What if magnets are actually picking up some background
energy of the cosmos, like background micro, or gravity waves? Due to
the way the matter is arranged, in the forming of a magnet, it taps
this source of energy? Matter that has arranged itself naturally with
this ability, we have come to call natural or permanent magnets.

I have seen this this hypothesis before in a document called fluxite

you can find it in
http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/223-extreme-physics

But I haven't found any experiments that backup this claim.
Do you know of any ?


Quote:
Working..................

Alan
Search + Share ~ Magnetrition
http://www.freewebs.com/alanejackson/index.htm


Interesting research, it reminds me of the immortality technique in the
book of thorth.

--
Researcher/Programmer for hire
Benj
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:05 am
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On Mar 16, 5:40 pm, alanejackson <alanejack...@go.com> wrote:

Quote:
What if magnets were a receiver of energy? Like Tesla was trying to do
with electrical current.

Loadstone: What if magnets are actually picking up some background
energy of the cosmos, like background micro, or gravity waves? Due to
the way the matter is arranged, in the forming of a magnet, it taps
this source of energy? Matter that has arranged itself naturally with
this ability, we have come to call natural or permanent magnets.

Working..................

And what if there was an Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too?

Most the various "free energy" guys seem to be fixated on magnets as
some kind of answer. "If only one gets just the right arrangement of
magnets" seems to be the belief. I don't buy it. I'll tell you why.
It's not that I do not believe in "free energy" and "perpetual
motion". I do. I just don't think that magnet arrangements can do it.

People say, "Oh that is nonsense!" Conservation of Energy laws
"prove" that "free energy" can't work! Bull. These morons would
better spend their time "debunking" the idea that heavier than air
craft can fly!

Look. If I grab energy from the sun and run something with it I'm NOT
violating "conservation of energy laws". Likewise, IF it's true that
he Earth sits in some UNKNOWN energy field, extracting energy from it
violates no laws anymore than solar power does! So now the question
become DOES the Earth sit in such a field and HOW does one extract
energy from it?

So we hit the literature for previous work. We find LOTS and LOTS of
people making weird arrangements of magnets and coils of wire. We find
"n" machines. We find other weird motors, some of which are highly
suspect (eg. Keely air devices). A good look review of this
literature gives us some hints. Three researchers that actually seemed
to have produced some USABLE amounts of energy are Dr. Tesla, Dr.
Moray, and that Swiss gadget that looks like an overgrown Wimshurst
machine.

The hint here is that the sea of energy in which the Earth floats (to
use Dr. Moray's expression) is some kind of a sea of WAVE energy.
Something similar to ELECTROMAGNETIC waves. These guys used some kind
of "tubes" to extract the energy. They did not come up with that
"ultimate" arrangement of magnets to do the job. Even the Swiss gadget
is electrostatic, not magnetic in nature.

If you want to look for what you lost where the light is better, have
at it. But as for me, I'll look for it over where I lost it.
Knud Soerensen
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:33 am
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Quote:
So we hit the literature for previous work. We find LOTS and LOTS of
people making weird arrangements of magnets and coils of wire. We find
"n" machines. We find other weird motors, some of which are highly
suspect (eg. Keely air devices). A good look review of this
literature gives us some hints. Three researchers that actually seemed
to have produced some USABLE amounts of energy are Dr. Tesla, Dr.
Moray, and that Swiss gadget that looks like an overgrown Wimshurst
machine.

The hint here is that the sea of energy in which the Earth floats (to
use Dr. Moray's expression) is some kind of a sea of WAVE energy.
Something similar to ELECTROMAGNETIC waves. These guys used some kind
of "tubes" to extract the energy. They did not come up with that
"ultimate" arrangement of magnets to do the job. Even the Swiss gadget
is electrostatic, not magnetic in nature.

If you want to look for what you lost where the light is better, have
at it. But as for me, I'll look for it over where I lost it.

Benj, I don't think you should be so quick to dismiss magnetic generators.

They might not be able to provide as much effect as the electro static
generators, and it might also be a problem that so little experimental
research have been done with magnetic monopoles and currents.

You see if you don't belive in magnetic currents you might
forget to make sure that the magnetic circuit in you generator is
closed, which would give you a increased back-RMF.

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0

Also according to quaternionic electrodynamic it is the divergence or
convergence of the magnetic field which supply the extra energy.
So, the arrangements of magnets is important.


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Benj
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:53 am
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On Mar 18, 6:33 am, Knud Soerensen <4tuu4k...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Quote:
You see if you don't belive in magnetic currents you might
forget to make sure that the magnetic circuit in you generator is
closed, which would give you a increased back-RMF.

seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0

I"m not sure that "belief" has anything to do with this! However,
while the demo was interesting (although I'm not really sure from it
what his actually setup was) I did note that he was not doing what he
SAID he was doing. He claimed that he had a generator that produced no
back-force under load. The fact was he applied a SHORT rather than a
LOAD! These can be two different things. Me, I'd like to see a demo
where the drive is unloaded as the generator drives a TRUE load with a
wattmeter to show the power output. That would be a lot more
convincing to me!
Vince Morgan
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:44 am
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"Benj" <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Mar 16, 5:40 pm, alanejackson <alanejack...@go.com> wrote:
Even the Swiss gadget
is electrostatic, not magnetic in nature.

If you want to look for what you lost where the light is better, have
at it. But as for me, I'll look for it over where I lost it.

I've often heard engineers offhandedly mention a noticeable drop in

temperature where there is an unusually high atmospheric ion density as if
this is normal and well understood. Over 30 persons/engineers have reported
this in the locality of the above mentioned device. However, I've never read
or heard an explanation of this supposedly "normal" phenomenon. It seems
(to me) that this indicates negentropy, which is something I'm particularly
interested in of late.
Do you know anything of this Ben?
Regards,
Vince
Benj
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:59 pm
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On Mar 19, 9:44 am, "Vince Morgan" <vinharAtHereoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:

Quote:
I've often heard engineers offhandedly mention a noticeable drop in
temperature where there is an unusually high atmospheric ion density as if
this is normal and well understood. Over 30 persons/engineers have reported
this in the locality of the above mentioned device. However, I've never read
or heard an explanation of this supposedly "normal" phenomenon. It seems
(to me) that this indicates negentropy, which is something I'm particularly
interested in of late.
Do you know anything of this Ben?

I suppose not much these days. It's been quite a few years since I
worked in Information theory. However, I would encourage you to dig
into it! Physicists in general tend to rather stuck in the "steam
engine" concepts of thermodynamics. They argue like mad about entropy
increasing, but totally ignore the great insight of Claude Shannon
that INFORMATION is measured in units of entropy. The missing
explanation in Maxwell's demon is the INFORMATION on the individual
molecules. I "debunked" the "increasing entropy" business by noticing
how hard it was to kill the weeds under my brick walk! Here is all
this disorder in the dirt under the bricks and yet these highly
ordered weeds keep plowing up between the bricks! And then it hit me
that the missing thing here is that LIFE decreases entropy. And that
is as it should be since the extreme information content (negentropy)
of DNA alone cannot be dismissed. So we have the idea that negentropy
is tied to information. Yeah it's the right place to be looking!

So what about temperature drops. People will strongly assert that
it's all nonsense. But if you dig around you'll find serious
reputable researchers who have reported such phenomena. For example.
temperature drops have been reported at seances. Temperature drops
have been reported related to the appearance of ghosts. Fire walkers
would seem to have temperature drops at least on the soles of their
feet. And much more. People who dismiss such data with the old
arguments that "if I haven't seen it with my own eyes, then it isn't
true" can't be much of a scientist. Hey, MOST of what passes for
science is never seen with our own eyes. I've never personally seen an
atomic explosion but somehow I still believe they are real! One
simply has to start judging the credibility of the given source and
how well data reported here correlates with data reported there. For
example, it has been reported on reasonably good authority that holy
yogis in Tibet have "contests" where they go to the river bank in the
dead of winter and see who can dry the most sheets which are wet and
then wrapped around their bodies. This is of course a "heating"
effect rather than a "cooling" one but the thought that both cooling
and heating would exist certainly makes some sense. These same yogis
are regularly seen running great distances (in a trance) totally naked
through the snow in the dead of Himalayan cold. Sure, some of it
could simply be athletic training, but eventually one has to start to
suspect some manner of "heating" effect to keep them alive!

So then the question arises just what IS this "cooling" thing and how
even COULD it work? Who knows? People nibble around the edges and
given the amount of energy involved in "cooling" a room there would
also seem that "hidden" energy sources might play a role. The only
thing I can say for sure though, is that all this stuff is presently
at a VERY elementary stage in understanding. It's sort of like
witnessing a thunderstorm and being impressed with lightening and
therefore being convinced that all those who say lightening does not
exist are wrong, but at the same time one is miles away from
understanding electricity in all it's manifestations. So one sort of
knows WHERE to look but haven't turned up many answers yet.

Obviously all those who refuse to even consider the question have no
hope of finding any answers.
 
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