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Arthur C. Clarke 2/9 ART MATRIX - LIGHTLINK
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof PO 880 Ithaca, NY 14851-0880
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01/27/07 12:34am
Dear Revered Sir,
Thank you for offering to take the time to preview my work before
publishing. This is the second of 9 parts that I will be sending to
you, as I write them.
I am writing them specifically for you, rather than send you a
formal dissertation which would be both dry and boring.
The formal dissertation for those that want it is at
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
These letters to you however are also public knowledge and have
been shared with a small circle of friends on the internet in
alt.clearing.technology.
Your responses, should there be any, will be kept private unless
you direct me otherwise. I am sure the world would love to know what
you think.
The material in these letters is a bit haphazzard, written late at
night in desperation to communicate this material to someone who can
'get it'.
Thus it might serve you to read all of them before trying to
comment, some of the later letters may answer your questions to earlier
ones.
There is no need for you to respond to any of them, unless you wish
to. Comments at the end of the presentation are of course solicited.
If you feel others of your peers would benefit from reading these
letters you are welcome to send them onto anyone you wish, I would be
obliged.
If at any time you wish no more, just say so.
Homer
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01/19/07 Saturday 04:00am EST
Dear Sir,
I send this letter to you with great trepidation.
This is a difficult and physically tortuous subject, at least it
has been for me.
I had a crystal clear dream about you the other night.
We were trying to discuss The Proof amongst a number of people who
kept interfering like little children who can't stand their parents
talking to anyone but them.
You were tall and healthy and good looking, and I knew I was
talking to a person of stature, while I was very unsure of myself and
didn't know where to begin.
I admit that the conclusions I draw from my own work are
emotionally untenable, even to myself: they are possible, but utterly
unbelieveable. If true, we have been so wrong about so many things,
that almost the opposite obtains on just about every matter of
importance in religion and science.
The objective evidence is completely against me, every leaf in the
wind, every blade of grass, every basic tenent of science tells us that
consciousness is but chemistry bubbling away at 98.6, that we are multi
dimensional machines of matter, energy, space and time, and that further
truth is to be found in finding more dimensions, rather than less.
Quantum mechanics has put uncertainty on a pedastal and proclaimed
it to be the greatest wisdom.
And right they are for a machine.
So we know that machines can't be certain of anything, not even
that they have changed state, but the tiny matter that we as conscious
units can be certain of some things, escapes us in the overwhelming
onslaught of evidence that we are but conglomerations of dust in the
wind awaiting their final parachute jump into final entropy.
We are apparently born to desire immortality and destined to live
just long enough to know for sure that we exist now, but will never live
again.
Is there any greater loss?
Have we had time enough for love?
And into that wind, this hurricane of present day knowledge that
surrounds us, I am going to blithely proclaim that consciousness is not
a machine, not a space time process in a space time gizmo?
That consciousness and conscious units are zero dimensional?
Am I going to utterly ruin myself in front of the world by
proclaiming that consciousness may even be "God" in carnation?
That He is Us, and We are Him?
That space and time are but self luminous renderings in the non
dimensional substrate of the AllThatIs?
It couldn't be any other way could it?
If God were himself an eternal dimensionless consciousness, and he
made a universe out of space time and dimension, could he then make our
own consciousness's out of that same space time and dimension?
This does not make sense to me. If God is dimensionless
consciousness, and we are also consciousness, then not only are we
dimensionless, we are God in carnation, for I doubt consciousness could
be MADE by anyone out of anything.
Being made is a space time dimensionfull concept.
The best that God could do is render in his own dimensionless
substrate, self luminous visions of space and time to be perceived by
himself.
Thus I conclude, the universe is the body of God glowing in the
dark of the void.
Nothing made, nothing destroyed, just a shift of color form in
His/Our experience as we proceed through time.
The High US is thus God in carnation.
We have all been taught that consciousness is a function of life,
of chemistry and space time, are we ready even for a moment to consider
that life, chemistry and space time mechanics are instead a function of
consciousness?
Of the dimensionless, dreaming of dimension?
Of God dreaming of what God is not?
We are taught that consciousness exists in and arose from the
universe at large.
Is it possible that the universe at large exists in and arose
from consciousness? Absurd isn't it?
Preposterous.
Would it even be possible to have a dream of space time mechanics
in a non dimensional substrate?
Can a 0 dimensional actuality project 3, 4 or 11 dimensions of
holographic illusion in its own 0 dimensional fabric?
If our experience of space time is an illusion in reality, how
much space time does that illusion take up in actuality?
Mankind has grown up through the 4 Big Lies and considers that it
finally has a mature view of the universe. Certainly a sobering one.
The first lie was that the Earth was flat.
The second lie was that the Earth was the center of the universe.
The third lie is that the Earth is the only planet with life on
it.
The fourth lie is that this universe is the only universe there
is.
Is it possible that the 5th lie, yet to be understood, is that
consciousness is not chemistry? Not a space time gizmo?
That one can not build a non spacetime thing (consciousness) out
of spacetime things (quarks, atoms, molecules)?
Is it possible that Creatures are Creator in carnation?
Prove it! Prove it, I can hear them say. The extraordinary
claim bears the burden of proof!
Well some things can not be proven by another, they have to be
directly experienced by one self. I can not prove to another that
they can be certain they exist, although I can prod them until they
admit they do.
Talk about exhaustion...
But anyone can prove that IF they are certain they exist, they
aren't a space time machine.
In that one awareness of perfect certainty of self existence,
they have transcended any form of dimensional space time process
whatsoever.
Even the quantum boys who are uncertain of everything, will be
certain of that!
This is why finding causation in the physical universe is so
hopeless, nay impossible. One can observe the dependable
followingness between two events, but never observe the NECESSARINESS
of that followingness. One is always left with a theory.
When two electrons repell each other, are they cause over each
other?
Or is time cause over them both, by giving them room in time to
move? If time didn't move forward, the electrons couldn't repell as
they would have no time to move in.
Without time, would there be any cause at all in the physical
universe? Time gives cause room to move things.
Does movement cause time, or does time cause movement?
Does the electron's repelling each other, CAUSE time to move?
Or does time moving cause the electrons to repell?
Does cause need time? Does time need cause?
Consciousness however can be directly aware of the necessariness
between its desires and its actions, consciousness can be perfectly
certain of the truth of its own existence, perceptions, and personal
agency over those desires and actions.
It can know it exists and is agent, and can't be wrong about it.
I exist, I am and I know it, and there is no possibility of my
being wrong about that.
A space time machine can not do this.
There may be illusions of dimension, but there can not be
illusions of necessariness. Our sense of causation, personal agency,
is actual.
Thus certainty of existence and causation lead me away from space
time mechanics into a world as yet unfathomable, incomprehensible, but
certainly dimension free.
That is the one thing that can be said with certainty about
certainty, the process of learning with perfect certainty must be
dimension free.
"Learning with certainty across a dimension or space time
distance is impossible."
For learning across a space time distance implies learning by
being an effect, and effect does not prove cause, thus learning by
being an effect can not produce learning with certainty about cause.
One can thus conclude the machine certainty theorem (The Proof)
namely that a machine that learns only by being an effect can never
prove there is cause.
If a machine can't prove it changed state, and can't prove
that what change in state might have occured was caused, what can
a machine prove then?
The joke is absolutely everyone will agree with that last
paragraph. What they have missed is that *THEY* CAN learn with
certainty about themselves and causation within themselves, and thus
that particular process of learning can not be across a dimension, and
thus must be dimension free.
Since all consciousness-of is certainty-of, all consciousness-of
must be dimension free.
If you can see it, and it looks like it is out there, it does
exist, but can't be out there, because if it were out there you
couldn't see it!
We are talking about conscious experiences of color in the world
around us, not the objects in the physical universe we assume they
represent.
Thus conscious color experiences exist, but their implied
'out-thereness' is an illusion.
A machine can receive effects and change state accordingly, but
it can never see itself seeing with certainty, and it can never see
what caused those effects across a distance.
There may be something out there, the physical universe may
actually exist as represented in our consciousness of it, but then I
get to demand "Prove It!".
What we see, is only our conscious representation of the world
out there, our personal dream of it, and from this we assume that
because we see something that looks like it is out there, there must
really be something out there.
Because we 'see space', there must BE space!
But if The Proof is correct, our conscious representations of out
thereness ARE NOT OUT THERE, no matter how much they look like they
are. They are more a hologram than anything else.
For whatever we are certain of has to be one and the same object
with what is certain of it, and the process of learning with certainty
about existence and cause has to be spaceless and timeless, and
dimension free.
Can a dimension full world give rise to a dimension free
phenomenon?
Can matter, energy, space and time give rise to perfect certainty
within a conscious unit?
If yes, then chemistry can give rise to perfect certainty, and we
may yet be dust in the wind.
But dimension free includes TIME FREE, so we are asking of space
and time to give rise to something without space or time (consciousness)
for either space or time separating two things from each other
precludes their ever knowing about each other with perfect certainty.
If the conscious looker were truely separate from the conscious
red or green 'out there on the wall', he would never be able to see
it directly!
Can a dimension free world give rise to a dimension full world of
space and time?
I would have to guess not, because this is too close to creating
something from nothing. If you don't yourself have any space or time,
how are you going to create some? Where and when are you going to put
it?
Can a dimension free world give rise to illusions (dreams) of a
dimension full world of space and time, rendered in the self luminous
light of its own dimension free self conscious fabric?
Does one ask this question publically?
I would hate to be the guy that went down in history as the guy
who thought he was dreaming when he wasn't.
Your faithful servant,
Homer Wilson Smith
Jane Elizabeth Staller
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
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