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| James Harris |
 Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:12 pm |
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I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
Remember posters like "Uncle Al" are *used* to winning!!!
Posters like him hurl insults, call names, and bully people into
shutting up and leaving the newsgroups they control knowing that
usually that works.
Those of you who act like it's ok for several posters to gang up on
one person and insult them with impunity, while accepting that person
must be a "crank" or "crackpot" because so many others attack them,
are helping to create a continually hostile environment to new ideas.
An "Uncle Al" can't produce on his own. Why do you think he attacks
so many posters? But when you validate him by helping him chase
people off of Usenet, then he's just sitting there like a mad dog
ready to attack *anyone* he chooses!
You give him the power, but can't take it away.
Now some of you may think I'm annoying, or many of you may think I'm
annoying.
You may be certain I'm wrong, but why does that allow other people to
come after me, insult me endlessly, and then strut around on the
newsgroups like they're decent people?
Remember, I create a thread, people *reply* in threads that I started,
and then the attack basically comes down to my speech. These people
post in reply to me and the idea is that it's *my* fault!!!!!
I don't make you read my posts. I don't force people to reply in my
threads. I don't force you to comment in reply to me.
But why am I a "crank" for expecting people to behave on Usenet? Why
must I be crazy for refusing to buckle down to bullies who are intent
on driving me off of Usenet by insulting me off?
Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
James Harris |
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| Sam Wormley |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:16 pm |
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James Harris wrote:
Quote:
I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
Remember posters like "Uncle Al" are *used* to winning!!!
Posters like him hurl insults, call names, and bully people into
shutting up and leaving the newsgroups they control knowing that
usually that works.
Those of you who act like it's ok for several posters to gang up on
one person and insult them with impunity, while accepting that person
must be a "crank" or "crackpot" because so many others attack them,
are helping to create a continually hostile environment to new ideas.
An "Uncle Al" can't produce on his own. Why do you think he attacks
so many posters? But when you validate him by helping him chase
people off of Usenet, then he's just sitting there like a mad dog
ready to attack *anyone* he chooses!
You give him the power, but can't take it away.
Now some of you may think I'm annoying, or many of you may think I'm
annoying.
You may be certain I'm wrong, but why does that allow other people to
come after me, insult me endlessly, and then strut around on the
newsgroups like they're decent people?
Remember, I create a thread, people *reply* in threads that I started,
and then the attack basically comes down to my speech. These people
post in reply to me and the idea is that it's *my* fault!!!!!
I don't make you read my posts. I don't force people to reply in my
threads. I don't force you to comment in reply to me.
But why am I a "crank" for expecting people to behave on Usenet? Why
must I be crazy for refusing to buckle down to bullies who are intent
on driving me off of Usenet by insulting me off?
Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
James Harris
You are failing to take into account that you are wrong! |
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| Dirk Van de moortel |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:51 pm |
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"James Harris" <jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message news:3c65f87.0312071212.482548f4@posting.google.com...
[snot]
Quote: I don't make you read my posts. I don't force people to reply in my
threads. I don't force you to comment in reply to me.
No one forces you to read the replies you get.
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| fishfry |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:14 pm |
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In article <3c65f87.0312071212.482548f4@posting.google.com>,
jstevh@msn.com (James Harris) wrote:
Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am
Not at all. You're good. You're the best troll in the history of the
Internet. And you're a pretty good crank. |
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| fishfry |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:15 pm |
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In article <3c65f87.0312071212.482548f4@posting.google.com>,
jstevh@msn.com (James Harris) wrote:
Quote: Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
Thanks for your contribution. |
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| C. Bond |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:33 pm |
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James Harris wrote:
Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
Any abuse you received, you earned. If you don't like people responding to
your posts, don't post.
Quote: Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
Nope! That was not your crime. You posted, emphatically and often, that
you *did* solve FLT. You attacked anyone who identified the innumerable
errors in your so-called 'proof'. Later you insisted that you were the
*only* one who had found a solution and that Wiles' proof was wrong. You
accused your critics of conspiracies and threatened to have your opponents
fired or subjected to penalties by the FBI or U.S. Army.
Quote: In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
Stop snivellling, you big crybaby. Questioning your sanity is an exercise
in identification, not bad manners. It's entirely appropriate that you
shut up or leave this newsgroup. Or, and here's a novel thought, why don't
you simply correct your errors, abandon your flawed arguments, reconsider
your work in an objective light, and start behaving like a rational human?
(Not like the snarling, drooling animal suggested at the end of this
post.)
Quote: I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
Usenet? Sure, post away. But this is 'sci.math', i.e. it is a special
interest group. You are not expected to express just any preposterous idea
that may pop into the tangled rats nest you call your brain in any
newsgroup picked at random. Try limiting your posts to math topics. Leave
the conspiracy theories to other special interest groups.
Quote: So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
It's back-and-forth, alright. But *you* keep posting crap and others have
simply tried to improve the SNR. No one is trying to control your dissent
-- it is your passionate defense of your errors that invites insults.
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Quote: Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
James Harris
Well put, James. An appropriate tag to your transparent attempt at
reasonable dialogue. (You forgot the CAPS LOCK key again!)
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There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable --
and the obvious.
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Democracy: The triumph of popularity over principle.
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| Pat |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:49 pm |
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"James Harris" <jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c65f87.0312071212.482548f4@posting.google.com...
Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
Remember posters like "Uncle Al" are *used* to winning!!!
Posters like him hurl insults, call names, and bully people into
shutting up and leaving the newsgroups they control knowing that
usually that works.
Those of you who act like it's ok for several posters to gang up on
one person and insult them with impunity, while accepting that person
must be a "crank" or "crackpot" because so many others attack them,
are helping to create a continually hostile environment to new ideas.
An "Uncle Al" can't produce on his own. Why do you think he attacks
so many posters? But when you validate him by helping him chase
people off of Usenet, then he's just sitting there like a mad dog
ready to attack *anyone* he chooses!
You give him the power, but can't take it away.
Now some of you may think I'm annoying, or many of you may think I'm
annoying.
You may be certain I'm wrong, but why does that allow other people to
come after me, insult me endlessly, and then strut around on the
newsgroups like they're decent people?
Remember, I create a thread, people *reply* in threads that I started,
and then the attack basically comes down to my speech. These people
post in reply to me and the idea is that it's *my* fault!!!!!
I don't make you read my posts. I don't force people to reply in my
threads. I don't force you to comment in reply to me.
But why am I a "crank" for expecting people to behave on Usenet? Why
must I be crazy for refusing to buckle down to bullies who are intent
on driving me off of Usenet by insulting me off?
Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
James Harris
Hey James, I think you could be letting them get to you, take long breaks
away from the computer and relax don't let them make you become obsessive
with their bullying, go for a walk or something. I get bullied and insulted,
and people gang up on me in, alt.meditation.transcendental, just because my
grammar is not very good, but mainly because I keep asking them a simple
question: why do they think they can fly; and, why do they try and charge
other people a lot of money to teach them to fly, especially when you can
get Easy Jet to Spain from Britain for 50 pounds, and they charge people
thousands of dollars to teach people to fly without any mechanical
contrivance at all.
James, you can learn something from the bullies as well because they are not
wrong all the time. |
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| Doug Norris |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 5:29 pm |
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fishfry <BLOCKSPAMfishfry@your-mailbox.com> writes:
Quote: You're the best troll in the history of the Internet.
Hardly. He's not even the best troll in the history of sci.math/physics.
Doug |
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| Mu-Pi |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 5:32 pm |
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"James Harris" <jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
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Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity
There is no question. They are coming to take you away Ha-Ha HoHo HeeHee to
the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time..... |
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| Uncle Al |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:11 pm |
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| Neil W Rickert |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:33 pm |
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jstevh@msn.com (James Harris) writes:
Quote: Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
Maybe the problem is that people tried to help you, putting in time
to read your articles and point out the errors. But you spurned
them.
Quote: In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
You post a pretty good bunch of insults yourself.
Quote: I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
You are still posting. It seems that nobody has cut you off. Your
freedom of speech remains. Your critics also deserve freedom of
speech to post their objections.
Quote: So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
Remember posters like "Uncle Al" are *used* to winning!!!
Posters like him hurl insults, call names, and bully people into
shutting up and leaving the newsgroups they control knowing that
usually that works.
... [snip]
Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
Now what was that you were saying about posting insults? |
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| David Moran |
| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:35 pm |
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"James Harris" <jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c65f87.0312071212.482548f4@posting.google.com...
Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
That's your fault. Everytime you post, you subject yourself to this abuse.
It's like that kid that punches himself in the nose and says "Mom, it hurts
when I do this" and his mother replies "Well, then don't do it."
Quote:
Basically my crime as far as math people are concerned is that I
started posting several years back ideas that I thought might solve
Fermat's Last Theorem. A couple of times I became very excited when I
thought I'd actually solved it.
In response several posters would call me horrendous names, question
my sanity, and at best tell me to shut-up and leave their newsgroup.
I thought Usenet was about freedom of speech, and the right to express
your ideas, but these people were *used* to bullying people off Usenet
by calling them names and insulting them, and I refused to allow them
to succeed.
So it's been a back-and-forth, as they keep posting, and talking about
me as just some crazy nut who won't shut-up, when I refuse to give in
to people who think of bullying and insults as a legitimate means to
control dissent.
Remember posters like "Uncle Al" are *used* to winning!!!
Posters like him hurl insults, call names, and bully people into
shutting up and leaving the newsgroups they control knowing that
usually that works.
Those of you who act like it's ok for several posters to gang up on
one person and insult them with impunity, while accepting that person
must be a "crank" or "crackpot" because so many others attack them,
are helping to create a continually hostile environment to new ideas.
An "Uncle Al" can't produce on his own. Why do you think he attacks
so many posters? But when you validate him by helping him chase
people off of Usenet, then he's just sitting there like a mad dog
ready to attack *anyone* he chooses!
You give him the power, but can't take it away.
Now some of you may think I'm annoying, or many of you may think I'm
annoying.
You may be certain I'm wrong, but why does that allow other people to
come after me, insult me endlessly, and then strut around on the
newsgroups like they're decent people?
Remember, I create a thread, people *reply* in threads that I started,
and then the attack basically comes down to my speech. These people
post in reply to me and the idea is that it's *my* fault!!!!!
I don't make you read my posts. I don't force people to reply in my
threads. I don't force you to comment in reply to me.
But why am I a "crank" for expecting people to behave on Usenet? Why
must I be crazy for refusing to buckle down to bullies who are intent
on driving me off of Usenet by insulting me off?
Fuck all of you if you think I'll let you control my speech on Usenet
with insults!!!
Fuck you losers who give away rights of others for no good reason!!!
Fuck you if you think you can insult me into silence!!!
James Harris
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| Larry Hammick |
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:11 am |
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"Uncle Al"
became insecure, a lot of generals and bankers would go grey overnight, and
the solver would at once become The Man Who Knew Too Much.
Here's an easier "prize problem":
http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/saoub.htm
LH |
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| Matt Giwer |
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:32 am |
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James Harris wrote:
Quote: I keep seeing people posting about how bad I am and questioning my
sanity, when everyone seems to be ignoring a simple fact--posters
verbally abuse me in threads I create, which has been going on for
YEARS.
I don't know from crank but when great breakthroughs and advances are only posted on
usenet one has to draw some obvious conclusions.
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What do you get when you cross a gas chamber with
a bottle of Manischewitz?
The most expensive whine in the world.
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| Wayne Brown |
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:54 am |
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In sci.math James Harris <jstevh@msn.com> wrote:
<his usual drivel, followed by obscenities>
Someone who wasn't already familiar with you might be taken in by most of
the pack of lies you posted. But your last three sentences demonstrate
clearly why nothing you say deserves to be taken seriously.
(Has anyone else noticed that James tends to post his most obscenity-laden
diatribes on Sunday afternoons? My theory is that Sunday is his favorite
drinking-day. I suggest he try church instead; it would be a much less
self-destructive use of his time.)
--
Wayne Brown (HPCC #1104) | "When your tail's in a crack, you improvise
fwbrown@bellsouth.net | if you're good enough. Otherwise you give
| your pelt to the trapper."
"e^(i*pi) = -1" -- Euler | -- John Myers Myers, "Silverlock" |
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