Tom Potter wrote:

As can be seen by the number of posts in this thread,
and the references to his web site in thousands of other posts,
a computer programmer, who took some data processing classes
at a third rate California college, has become a highly regarded expert
in math, physics, and other science disciplines, and
many people, who pretend to be rational, intelligent, open-minded
scientists (Or at least, pretend to have a scientific mind.),
frequently use this programmer as a major reference.



What third rate California college? Who rated it? What criteria?

Hey Wormley,

Most scientist are computer programmers... are you knocking us Potter?

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There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable --
and the obvious.

I just want to address this this above errorent line......

Its wrong on several levels......

Noone can prove anything individually... Best you can
do is supply evidence ... Something is proven only
when there is concensus that the supplied evidence is
valid and the conclusions made are, by concensus, agreed too.

Also noone can know if something is unprovable for all
only have a knowledge base of the moment and new information
may at some point be dirived that allows the proofs required
to prove by consessus the concept that was unprovable before
the new information was aquired.....

And the obvious is not always obvious and when the obvious
seems obvious to some, it may very well be illusion... If
being obvious were the rule then David Copperfield would
not be drawing very many crowds.....

No, that's not true.

Justin


In sci.math |-|erc <trymyform@wwwadamskingdom.com> wrote:

: that's because you're quoting text book problems in here, try saying
anything : against the grain and you'll get your head shot off

: Herc

cite?

"Justin" <no@spam.com> wrote in
No, that's not true.

: that's because you're quoting text book problems in here, try saying
anything : against the grain and you'll get your head shot off

: Herc

David Moran wrote:

But James, by not insulting those people back, you are sure to show
others
that you're more mature than the ones doing the insulting. Wouldn't that
help in your favor?

That presumes that maturity and intelligent new ideas go hand in hand,
and that immaturity precludes brilliant new ideas. When openly stated
as a proposition, would you be so bold as to say that it is
categorically true? You may assume it sub silentio, on moral grounds,
as a precondition to whether you will listen to a person's ideas, but
is your presupposition actually true? Would you care to defend such a
proposition with facts?

Very Respectfully,
Ray

In article <HpLv5n.91H@cwi.nl>, Dik T. Winter <Dik.Winter@cwi.nl> wrote:
Look at posters like James Harris who insults people to let them stop
postings. Who even contacts employers to get posters to stop posting.
And only because they provide factual counterproofs of his claims.
You have called Arturo Magidin a liar many times on the way. He never
has insulted you.

That's not accurate; I have, in the past, insulted James.

people like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" want because they're not
civilized!

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get

Something is proven only
when there is concensus that the supplied evidence is
valid and the conclusions made are, by concensus, agreed too.

You're the one who made the initial claim, so it up to you to provide
proof.

In any case, JSH is not saying anything "against the grain", as you so
nobly put it, he is saying things which are downright mathematically
incorrect. Go and follow the threads with your own eyes.

"Justin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:<br5ot1$re6$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
You're the one who made the initial claim, so it up to you to provide
proof.

In any case, JSH is not saying anything "against the grain", as you so
nobly put it, he is saying things which are downright mathematically
incorrect. Go and follow the threads with your own eyes.

Like what?

nice post James, good general FAQ or introductory material about posting.

Herc
now will anyone look at MY claim?

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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in
Tom Potter wrote:

As can be seen by the number of posts in this thread,
and the references to his web site in thousands of other posts,
a computer programmer, who took some data processing classes
at a third rate California college, has become a highly regarded expert
in math, physics, and other science disciplines, and
many people, who pretend to be rational, intelligent, open-minded
scientists (Or at least, pretend to have a scientific mind.),
frequently use this programmer as a major reference.



What third rate California college? Who rated it? What criteria?

Hey Wormley,
as you use this programmer's web site as your primary rederence,
it seems to me that you should know what college your resident expert
attended.

If you want to know how this college rates,
I suggest that you learn how to use Google.

I'll give you some hints.
Caltech and Stanford and first rate California colleges.
The college that Baez teaches at is a second rate college.
Your expert took some data processing classes at a third rate college.

Most scientist are computer programmers... are you knocking us Potter?

Wormley,
why do you always try to identify yourself with some group?

Does identifying yourself with a group make you feel more secure,
or do you think [sic] that it lends strength to your position?

Do you have the courage to express any independent ideas you have
(Assuming that you have an independent idea.),
or the knowledge to address the point of a dichotomy,
rather than try to position an opponents point
against some group that you identify with?

In other words Wormley,
are you a man or a mouse?

--
Tom Potter http://tompotter.us

"|-|erc" <trymyform@wwwadamskingdom.com> wrote in
nice post James, good general FAQ or introductory material about posting.

Herc
now will anyone look at MY claim?


Just look at the "supporters" you attract, James. Doesn't that tell you something?


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Is the truman living in Townsville? I've been hearing stuff, yeah.

Do you know if the truman is living in Townsville?
I've been hearing stuff, yeah.