I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

James Harris wrote:

[snip]

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.

It's just not normal behavior.

Good grief! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Shall we quote
some of the insults you have left in the
public record to see whether you consider them the product of "normal
behavior"? Have you forgotten what you
wrote? Do you suffer from memory loss? Attention Deficit Disorder?

--
There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable --
and the obvious.
--
Democracy: The triumph of popularity over principle.
--
http://www.crbond.com


I wonder if he considers trying to get people fired under false pretenses

I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Marc Olschok <sa796ol@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message news:<br24f8$m32$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>...
In sci.math James Harris <jstevh@msn.com> wrote:
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Your posts are sufficient.


Why?

[...]
But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

But this is hard work.
By insulting people day and night, he saves me from insulting people,
so I can try to keep the positive image of myself.


Well you just screwed up there Marc Olschok.

In any event, fostering an insulting environment doesn't help in the
long run.

For instance, Marc Olschok I could call you an idiot, especially given
your support of "Uncle Al", and I could proceed to track any posts you
make on sci.physics, and reply to them insulting you continually, but
what good would it do?

Well it might drive you off of Usenet.

Is that the kind of Usenet you want?

What I'm telling other readers is YES that IS the kind of Usenet that
people like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" want because they're not
civilized!

Now then, many of you might find it tolerable because you think of
yourself as part of the group, so it's "Us" against "Them".

But what do you really know of Marc Olschok or "Uncle Al"?

Why would you assume they're on your side?

Perhaps he is also working on the terrestrial version of the
universal insulting problem, described by Douglas Adams.
In this case it would be almost serious research.

Marc

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.

It's just not normal behavior.


James Harris

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.

There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable --
and the obvious.

--
Democracy: The triumph of popularity over principle.
--
http://www.crbond.com

But James, by not insulting those people back, you are sure to show others
that you're more mature than the ones doing the insulting. Wouldn't that
help in your favor?

David Moran wrote:

But James, by not insulting those people back, you are sure to show
others
that you're more mature than the ones doing the insulting. Wouldn't that
help in your favor?

That presumes that maturity and intelligent new ideas go hand in hand,
and that immaturity precludes brilliant new ideas. When openly stated
as a proposition, would you be so bold as to say that it is
categorically true? You may assume it sub silentio, on moral grounds,
as a precondition to whether you will listen to a person's ideas, but
is your presupposition actually true? Would you care to defend such a
proposition with facts?

Very Respectfully,
Ray

Is the truman living in Townsville? I've been hearing stuff, yeah.
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I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Clearly there are quite a few posters who insult first, and it doesn't
much matter what's being discussed, so what gives?

Of course the answer is that by insulting people you can sometimes
control them.

How many of you are readers terrified of posting?

Don't you think that posters know that you are?

If you ever get up the nerve to step out and present your ideas, then
there are posters who can sense it, and can control you.

Basically you can be stopped.

Your dreams of being heard, of maybe adding to the body of knowledge,
or just putting in a different point of view can be crushed in an
instant--on a whim.

Insulting is a powerful technique. If you post, and are insulted,
then you are affected, which can affect what you post next, and for
many of you, stop you from *ever* posting again at all.

Insulting posters is a tried and true technique on Usenet. It's been
there from the beginning and it'll stay here until someone figures out
a way to stop it.

The reason it's so powerful is that in the regular world there are
many protections from being insulted. And if someone does step over
the line, there are many ways to knock them back.

But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

Some of you may think that I'm part of the problem as yes, I *do* at
times insult people, but mostly I challenge them.

I present work from my research for others to consider, and run into
the insult people over, and over and over again.

However, I'm not interested in letting them win. I don't care to
allow myself to be insulted into silence. I'm not afraid to give some
back when insulted.

Remember, a lot of it is about control. People like "Uncle Al" don't
have 29,000 posts because they're not usually winning. Normally that
poster can *silence* people. Think about it!!!

All he has to do is sit wherever he is at his keyboard, posting day
and night as he does, and he can in his own small way control part of
your world, as you're reading this so you're probably on Usenet, by
controlling posters.

He can silence them with insults.


James Harris

The quantum of light is the "photon"

The quantum of sound is the "sonon" [phonon?]

The quantums of electricity are "electron", "proton", "positron", and
"anti-proton"

The quantums of heat would then be the "thermon" [or "pyron"].
Right??? If not, what is it?? It cannot be the photon or phonon for
reasons described above.
[snip]

Marc Olschok <sa796ol@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message
news:<br24f8$m32$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>...
In sci.math James Harris <jstevh@msn.com> wrote:
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Your posts are sufficient.


Why?

[...]
But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

But this is hard work.
By insulting people day and night, he saves me from insulting people,
so I can try to keep the positive image of myself.


Well you just screwed up there Marc Olschok.

In any event, fostering an insulting environment doesn't help in the
long run.

For instance, Marc Olschok I could call you an idiot, especially given
your support of "Uncle Al", and I could proceed to track any posts you
make on sci.physics, and reply to them insulting you continually, but
what good would it do?

Well it might drive you off of Usenet.

Is that the kind of Usenet you want?

What I'm telling other readers is YES that IS the kind of Usenet that
people like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" want because they're not
civilized!

Now then, many of you might find it tolerable because you think of
yourself as part of the group, so it's "Us" against "Them".

But what do you really know of Marc Olschok or "Uncle Al"?

Why would you assume they're on your side?


Perhaps he is also working on the terrestrial version of the
universal insulting problem, described by Douglas Adams.
In this case it would be almost serious research.

Marc

Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.

It's just not normal behavior.


James Harris

Look at posters like James Harris who insults people to let them stop
postings. Who even contacts employers to get posters to stop posting.
And only because they provide factual counterproofs of his claims.
You have called Arturo Magidin a liar many times on the way. He never
has insulted you.

Marc Olschok <sa796ol@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message news:<br24f8$m32$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>...
In sci.math James Harris <jstevh@msn.com> wrote:
I hope that some of you are getting the picture now from my threads
asking questions about my own "crank" status, by considering the
replies in those threads.

Your posts are sufficient.


Why?

[...]
But on Usenet, you have *vicious* posters who just go on and on, like
consider "Uncle Al" who has over 29,000 posts as he knows that he
can't be stopped.

He's sitting somewhere at a keyboard, insulting people day and night,
getting away with what he can't in person.

But this is hard work.
By insulting people day and night, he saves me from insulting people,
so I can try to keep the positive image of myself.


Well you just screwed up there Marc Olschok.

In any event, fostering an insulting environment doesn't help in the
long run.

For instance, Marc Olschok I could call you an idiot, especially given
your support of "Uncle Al", and I could proceed to track any posts you
make on sci.physics, and reply to them insulting you continually, but
what good would it do?

Well it might drive you off of Usenet.

Is that the kind of Usenet you want?

What I'm telling other readers is YES that IS the kind of Usenet that
people like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" want because they're not
civilized!

[...]
Now I'm not talking about insults here and there as things can get
heated even among adults.

But look at posters like Marc Olschok and "Uncle Al" and consider how
many of you would promote childish behavior, like repeated and
continual insults meant to silence others.