On Mar 11, 8:58 am, josephus <dogb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Mar 11, 3:00 am, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com
wrote:
In article
4b1fa883-44b7-4642-8e05-d7df0afa8...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
By the teenage years,judgements of relative motions is devloped enough
to drive cars and almost everybody,apart from those with physical
impairments,can drive with the full understanding of relative motions
and how to react.Likewise,the Earth overtaking the outer planets comes
from the same faculty insofar as it is almost impossible for a human
to overide their judment of the relative motions and infer the Earth's
orbital motion and that of the other planets around the central Sun -
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0112/JuSa2000_tezel.gif
From that same perspective,the additional motion is axial rotation as
the cause of the daily cycle and both form a seamless perspective as
seen from a moving Earth.
To overide a natural judgement is a disease,if you feel so strongly
that Newton was right in his approach to an resolution of retorgrades
via a hypothetical observer on the Sun then it hardly matters what I
say,an illness is an illness -
"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct.." Newton
Again,if you follow Newton's approach you overide natural judgements
but take comfort,you are not alone.Not stick with what you know and if
you want to follow that late 17th century idiot then good for you.
You have still not demonstrated what, exactly, is wrong with Newton's
explanation of retrograde motion, nor have you explained what the
Earth's rotation (not orbit!) has to do with it.
Don't take this as an offense: you're an idiot.
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That is why yoiu all have an illness,the orbital motion of the Earth
overtaking the outer planets accounts for apparent retrograde motion
leaving axial rotation to explain the daily cycle.,it was the means by
which Copernicus came to the insight and how people like Galileo and
Kepler understood it.
"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct.." Newton
If you create a hypothetical observer on the Sun to account
retrogrades there is no possible means to explain axial rotation and
the daily cycle by the same means.It is quite an amazing thing to see
people stand idly by and do nothing or rather positively refuse to
believe that Newton not only badly mangled the main Copernican
argument for axial and orbital motion but built his own agenda on a
contrived astrological framework.Again,it is the ability to overide
human judgements on relative motions that constitutes an illness or
worse,gross cowardice.
Perhaps I should not be astonished that the new orbital
component ,where a location turns through 360 degrees wrt the Sun over
the course of an annual orbit and quite apart from axial
rotation,cannot be understood,the intutive intelligence based on
judging relative motions is no longer present and I deserve a few
moment of dismay on this account.
Go back to your own kind and stick with what you know.
I know celestial mechanics and you do not display any knowledge of
mathematics.
with XYZ coordinates one can display diurnal motions and retrograde as
perceived by an observer on the earth or any other planet. Newton
allows first order calculation of these coordinates. can you show in
any sense how the generation of positional coordinates is wrong.
coordinates are independent of any particular mapping system.
josephus
--
I go sailing in the summer
and look at stars in the winter,
"Everybody is ignorant but on
different subjects"
--Will Rogers
Its not what you know
that gets you in trouble
its what you know that ain so.
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You get the same response,the inability to find fault with Newton's
idiosyncratic view of retrogrades represents a genuine illness,I am
not attacking the late 17th century guy ,I am promoting the correct
approach to and resolution of retrogrades in the same manner
Copernicus,Kepler and Galileo undersood it.
